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destroyerbear
July 15, 2009, 10:57 PM
so i was thinkin of also getting a cheap rimfire rifle, kinda for targeting, but not like, shorter range targeting. i was interested in the 10/22 in .22, but i was thinkin about somthing in a .17 cal. i was just wondering if that would be a more accurate and faster round. also lookin for coyote hunting

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LRaccuracy
July 15, 2009, 11:19 PM
I am not sure that a 10/22 is exactly a cheap rimefire rifle anyomore. I think the .17 rimfire cartridges are great but a little expensive to shoot at $10 a box. When you look at the price of .22 LR ammo doubling in the past 8 or 9 months, I think I would stick with the .22 LR because it still is much more inexpensive than the .17.

If you are going to hunt coyotes, you can stop them with a .22 LR but I would go with something with a little more punch. I like the .221 Remington Fireball.

Keep in mind this is only an opinion.

kludge
July 15, 2009, 11:24 PM
For coyote hunting I would move up to a .22 WMR or .17 HMR at the very least. A Savage Mark II with a heavy barrel is very accurate, not quite what I would call cheap, but a friend of mine just got a sweet deal on one with a thumbhole stock.

Michael Thomson
July 16, 2009, 01:12 AM
.17HMR isn't cheap compared to .22Lr but it's a fantastic cartridge and super accurate. I had the opportunity to go shoot some prairie dogs recently and we were smacking them at 225-250 yards (lasered) with Hornady VMax 17gr bullets.

Bill B.
July 16, 2009, 07:16 AM
The .17 rimfires are super accurate and great for what they are made for but I think a bit light on a coyote for clean kills. If I am going to shoot one I want to drop him and not have him drag off for a slow death.

so i was thinkin of also getting a cheap rimfire rifle, kinda for targeting, but not like, shorter range targeting.

Look at a Savage bolt rimfire in the round of your choice ...........IMO

22-rimfire
July 16, 2009, 10:01 AM
You will find that most Ruger 10/22's are not considered highly accurate out of the box. Most of the folks that have them that shoot real well have installed custom barrels and other after market features. Weatherby sells one that is more expensive (about $1000) but would probably satisfy the accuracy question.

The 17HMR is a very accurate rimfire on most bolt action rifles. It is much better for shooting at 100 yds or a bit further than a 22LR, but some do shoot their 22LR's at 100 yds for the challenge. A 22WMR rifle would be better for coyotes than the 17HMR and it gives you practical reach out to about 150 yds with a heavier bullet.

If you want an out of the box accurate semi-auto 22 rifle, I would lean toward the Marln Model 60 or Thompson Center R-55. Marlin has very clip fed version similar to the Model 60 as well. The Remington 597 is another good choice as well.

Bolt action rimfire... I would lean toward a Savage Mark II model.

oneounceload
July 16, 2009, 11:07 AM
If you're looking for an inexpensive fun 22, the Marlin 60 beats the 10/22 hands down out of the box. I have/had both - the Ruger was finicky about ammo, gunked up real quick; the Marlin did not. The Ruger has thousands of aftermarket products to improve its performance, the Marlin does not, but then it doesn't need them.

By the time you trick out a Ruger to make it super accurate, you might as well have gone and bought an Anschutz and be done with it.

Regular Joe
July 16, 2009, 09:26 PM
Funny guyz here. IMO, there is no .22 rifle but the 10/.22. You can fix the trigger yourself, with a file. A good heavy barrel can be easily had for $100. Please make sense here. We're talking about the .22 rf, which will be used mostly within 75 yards or so. 100 yard accuracy happens ONLY with the more expensive ammo. Even at that, wind and trajectory are major issues.
I have 3 different 10/.22's, including one with a heavy barrel and big scope, but the one I shoot most is a CRR with a 4x Nikon. With bulk Rem. golden bullets, it goes right at an inch at 50 yards, for 10 shots or 50.
If you want to do bigger things, there is no alternative but to get a bigger gun.

doc2rn
July 16, 2009, 09:52 PM
For varmits get the Rem 700 in .223
If you want to stay Ruger a 77/22 can be had in almost any cartridge out there, and these are shooters right from the box.

Black Dime
July 16, 2009, 11:02 PM
Wally world will sell you a 10-22 for less than $250.00.

This one will shoot about an inch at 100 yards.
$100.00 barrel
30.00 adjustble sear
30.00 Gunsmither V-block
40.00 Bedding kit-Rimfire Tech

Cut down the factory stock. I have done some other tricks which cost almost nothing except the labor labor but it is a lot of fun. The 10-22 can be converted to 17 kinda cheap. I have owned this rifle for 30 years. Just receently did the build. No failure to fire and no failure to eject. It does not gunk up unless you put gunk in it. Better watch. The 10-22 is worse than an addiction.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/
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ThrottleJockey72
July 16, 2009, 11:44 PM
If you buy a 10/22, make sure and find an older one used. The new ones come with a crappy plastic housing. As Black Dime stated above, rimfirecentral.com is the best place to get info about ANY rimfire ever made. The members over there can be sort of "snobbish" and it may take them a little while to warm up to you, but that's ok since all the info anyone could ever want is already posted and can be found through a search. A lot of those guys have THOUSANDS in each 10/22 they have and they have many. I have a 10/22 and a marlin 60. I love them both, and accuracy seems rather similar out of the box. My 10/22 will shoot anything I feed it and go all day long, whereas the mdl 60 can be picky about ammo and with cheap bulk pack it gets dirty and gums up pretty quick.

Big Bill
July 17, 2009, 12:49 AM
Ah heck! Just buy a Marlin Model 60 and be done with it.

flrfh213
July 17, 2009, 01:02 AM
lol after all the mods, i think i will just stick with my weatherby 7mm mag and know what i hit is done... you didnt plan on eatin the coyote did ya?

i know, i know, rimfire.....

ArmedBear
July 17, 2009, 03:36 PM
IMO, there is no .22 rifle but the 10/.22.

Ignorance, plain and simple.

This one will shoot about an inch at 100 yards.
$100.00 barrel
30.00 adjustble sear
30.00 Gunsmither V-block
40.00 Bedding kit-Rimfire Tech

ROTFLMAO

That's why I sold my 10/22. I have a few other nice .22 toys; I didn't want to pour money into a 10/22, so it could shoot as well as a stock Marlin 60.

Your $400 rifle shoots about as well as my $140 rifle, and mine holds the bolt open on the last shot... As an added benefit, the scope doesn't come loose.

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=451640&highlight=marlin+60+facts

Want to spend money on a .22LR rifle? There are MANY wonderful ways to do that. Weatherby/Anschutz Mark XXII, CZ 453, Marlin 39A, Remington Fieldmaster, Browning SA 22, Winchester 9422 (if you can find one for sale). .22LR AR build is fun, though it's not exactly the best bang for the buck...

Or get a Magnum Research or Volquartsen, a 10/22 done right from the get-go.

I'm not into throwing good money after bad.:)

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