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Ty7940
July 16, 2009, 03:37 AM
What do ya think of it? I'm lookin to get one due to the availibility of cheap ammo + it's use as a hunting rifle. I mean this is the cheapest (in terms of ammo) rifle that you canget besides the .22 So, any suggestions?

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RP88
July 16, 2009, 03:53 AM
there are cheaper out there than .223. Any surplus or other intermediate caliber is going to be lower in price.

But, it makes a great all-round caliber if you do your part. It fits in any of the conventional roles of a rifle or carbine, given the proper platform and the proper ammo selection.

blackops
July 16, 2009, 03:56 AM
The .223 is a very versitile round and easy to aquire. Are you looking for a rifle application or AR? It is a good round for anything smaller than deer as far as hunting.

jim in Anchorage
July 16, 2009, 03:56 AM
Hunting what?

jackdanson
July 16, 2009, 03:56 AM
Hunting what? Do you want an autoloader or a bolt action?

As far as hunting goes I wouldn't hunt deer w/ a .223. It can be done, but some states have laws against it, and it isn't really ideal for large game. .308 and .30-06 aren't much more expensive in factory ammo and would work much better on large game.

Mosins and saigas also have cheap ammo. 7.62x39 would work on deer, you'd have to buy decent loads for hunting, but you could get cheap plinking ammo too.

RP88
July 16, 2009, 04:23 AM
I'd say that a .223 can take whatever a 7.62 Soviet round can take. But, that is just me. It is certainly not a good long-range hunting cartridge unless you're varminting, but dropping a human-sized animal (like a deer or...err...person) with .223 within normal hunters' range is certainly not something that requires anything but the same shot placement you'd use with any full-sized rifle caliber.

TEC
July 16, 2009, 07:21 AM
Mostly, when I shoot, I kill time and punch paper. I recently bought both a CZ-452 Varmint in 17 HMR and a CZ-527 Varmint in 223. Both shoot MOA with factory loads, and are great fun to shoot without breaking (but require a bit of hard shaking) the bank.

FLNT4EVR
July 16, 2009, 11:54 AM
An excellent and accurate calibre. In a bolt gun You should consider the Stevens model 200 .Avery accurate rifle right from the box,and priced under $300.In states where they can be used for deer,I would recomend the 60 grn.Nosler Partition or the 64 grn Winchester Power Point.

RockyMtnTactical
July 16, 2009, 03:35 PM
I love the caliber, personally. It won't "do it all", but it has plenty of uses.

Matrix187
July 16, 2009, 03:40 PM
I killed a large buck whitetail in Montana with a 69gr .223 Sierra HPBT shot right into the lungs/heart. It dropped immediately. I don't understand why people say .223 isn't good for deer inside 150 yards or so with good shot placement.

Dravur
July 16, 2009, 03:53 PM
I used a .223 to bag Bigfoot. Shhh, don't tell anyone.

I'm going Yeti hunting next.

Im having Bigfoot stuffed and he will be in a display at my house with Elvis and Nessie...

I also got Nessie with the .223

Uncle Mike
July 16, 2009, 05:30 PM
I used a .223 to bag Bigfoot. Shhh, don't tell anyone.

Did not... I shot that ol' boy year before last... with a 22 magnum... in the a$$...DRT!

holy cow... maybe there was two.....we should leave a couple for seed!

:neener:

:D

RockyMtnTactical
July 16, 2009, 07:53 PM
some states have laws against it

Some states have laws against hunting with .308 or 30-06 as well... Does it mean that those calibers cannot get the job done?

BENELLIMONTE
July 16, 2009, 08:23 PM
I am considering using the .223 Remington for my doe deer tag this year. This decision is related to my recovering from neck surgery. I will be using an old mint condition Savage 111 with Federal 55 grain Trophy bonded Bear Claw. I would try to limit my shots to 200yds or less.

dispatch55126
July 16, 2009, 11:31 PM
The .223 for deer hunting has been beat to death. DNR typically uses .22LR to drop a deer in urban settings (inside of 30 yards) so .223 is more than adequate. In contrast, I helped my neighbor flush a deer he shot in the gut with a 12 ga. slug.

Caliber is a factor but shot placement is more important.

Ty7940
July 18, 2009, 11:19 PM
I will be using it mostly for deer, and varmints. The reason why I'm looking into it is again, cheap ammo. And it's fairly quiet. Which I have NO problem with loud guns. I just prefer them to be more quiet for huntin at night. i.e coon and yotes.

W.E.G.
July 19, 2009, 12:12 AM
I don't think the .223 is a very good sniper round.

But, if I got shot in the head with one, I might change my mind.

Ty7940
July 19, 2009, 12:41 AM
Heh heh heh I have a feeling that you may, Just a hunch though :P.

jester_s1
July 19, 2009, 01:14 AM
.223 for deer is fine if your shot placement is perfect. But hit a shoulder and it's spotty at best. The ammo also isn't that much cheaper than the bigger centerfire calibers. I see .223 at $13 a box retail, and I see .308 at $20 a box. Unless you're going to shoot alot, that's not a substantial jump in cost for a round that is much more reliable on medium sized game.

rangerruck
July 19, 2009, 01:25 AM
to be quite honest with you, it is one of the 10 staple rounds you must have
in a rifle. simply becuase there is so much of it around, and you can get it anywhere, and it is made everywhere.

Ty7940
July 19, 2009, 06:11 AM
Jester, I can get 100 (good quality) .223 shells. 41$. FOURTY .308 shells whould cost the same as that.

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