What makes a Rifle with a pistol grip a Pistol?


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SniperStraz
July 16, 2009, 07:45 PM
Not really sure if this is more about handuns or rifles but here we go:
I'm constantly seeing rifle platforms with short barrels and pistol grips (no stock) Such as Kel-Tec and AR15 type "pistols"
How is this legal? Is it because the were manufactured to be pistols?
If I were to take the stock off of an AK and leave just the pistol grip, would it then be legal to saw the barrel down to 10in?
Someone please help me make sense of this.
Thanks you.
-SniperStraz

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Boba Fett
July 16, 2009, 07:50 PM
This should answer your questions.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=266557

Nugilum
July 16, 2009, 08:32 PM
It's amazing to read an explanation on how confusing the gun laws are. And, how careful you need to be legally with an AR Pistol, especially if you already own an AR15. :eek:

Boba Fett
July 16, 2009, 09:06 PM
Yeah I know.

:eek: was my reaction too when I first read up on it.

SniperStraz
July 16, 2009, 11:22 PM
I'm not sure I'd follow that link as law, but it was an interesting read.
So... other opinions?
What if one doesn't cut off the barrel and just puts a pistol grip on an AK?
Is that illegal?

TexasRifleman
July 16, 2009, 11:37 PM
What if one doesn't cut off the barrel and just puts a pistol grip on an AK?
Is that illegal?

If the overall length of the rifle after you do that is less than 26 inches you cannot. You cannot make a pistol out of a rifle.

Boba Fett
July 17, 2009, 12:15 AM
http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=239

Might give you some more insight.

And if you want to take the time to peruse reference links (might have to dig through a couple articles, but you'll find the official BATF or legal rulings) in this Wiki entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

And one more good link:
http://federalfirearmslicense.me/blog/federal-firearms-license/nfa-rifle-youll-need-a-federal-firearms-license-to-sell-them/

SniperStraz
July 17, 2009, 12:19 AM
Thank you

Boba Fett
July 17, 2009, 12:25 AM
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=rifle%20length&url=/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00005845----000-.html

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sup_01_26_10_E_20_53.html


Even better link...

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