Devious idea?
MicroBalrog
October 23, 2003, 06:44 PM
According to the ATF, the independent links used in MG belts are legal, even if connected into long belts - but the belt containers are not.
So what about someone manufacturing a cloth drum that can also function as, say, a handbag, and marketing it as such? :-)
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4v50 Gary
October 23, 2003, 07:58 PM
Recall that the early MGs had cloth sewn belts. John Browning once sewed his own. Heck, they can't ban cotton or the Singer sewing machine.
CWL
October 23, 2003, 10:10 PM
Why cloth? Can't one fabricate 'storage containers' outta sheet metal or plastic? Be more resistant to moisture, chemicals, etc.
Nightcrawler
October 23, 2003, 11:01 PM
Soft pouches are preferable when holiding linked ammo. The plastic boxes for the M249 SAW, for example, rattle quite loudly.
PrudentGT
October 24, 2003, 07:02 AM
Hold on a minute -- what's this about *links* being illegal? The little metal pieces, but one bullet in, holds two together -- *those* are illegal somehow? I'm having a hard time believing this.
starfuryzeta
October 24, 2003, 10:18 AM
I thought that links are considered an ammunition feeding device, thus subject to the 10rnd limit on post-ban links.
Didn't think they were illegal alltogether.
tiberius
October 24, 2003, 10:38 AM
Heck, they can't ban cotton or the Singer sewing machine.
No, but they could make it require a tax stamp that must be signed by a local head LEO.
4v50 Gary
October 24, 2003, 11:08 AM
Links? I believe links are evil here in CA. Not by Federal law, but by CA law.
Kharn
October 24, 2003, 11:24 AM
Prudent GT:
Assembling a linked belt of more than 10 rounds from post-ban links is illegal, the same as making a new 11 round magazine, under the '94 AW ban.
MicroBalrog:
If you're talking about what I think you're talking about:
The rule is that the box of links that comes from the manufacturer must be marked if the links inside are postban, as marking each individual link would be unfeasible. The links are still postban when removed from the box, but who can tell if its a postban or preban link when the box went out in the trash last Thursday?
You can use whatever you want to store your linked ammo in whatever size you want, and its assumed to be legal, as long as the container isnt a factory box saying "Postban Links, LEO only blah blah blah".
Kharn
RustyHammer
October 24, 2003, 02:54 PM
Wonder if my truck counts as a carrying case if I mount it on the roof ? Hummmmmmmmmmmm
wingnutx
October 24, 2003, 11:07 PM
Some shops around here sell linked surplus 7.62 ammo, I believe in 50 or 100 round belts.
A container they come in is illegal? I hope not, 'cause I have a ton of the little cloth bandoleers the Navy uses. I throw the carboard box portion of it away.
Sunray
October 24, 2003, 11:36 PM
"...the belt containers are not..." Does that mean surplus ammo cans are illegal where you are? The ones hung off the side of MG's. Just curious.
PrudentGT
October 25, 2003, 01:22 AM
Ah, Micro had given me the notion that independent links had come under fire... *whew*
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