Sentry Gun Safe


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EvanWilliams
July 18, 2009, 07:51 PM
Hi, guys. I have had a Sentry gun safe for about 10 years now. It was never the smoothes operating but always worked. IT is a dial combo safe. Not electronic. My wife opened the safe and when she went to close it the dial would not turn and the handle would also not turn to engage the 3 prong like projections that normally secure the door. Two partially come out but the bottom one does not come out at all.

I spoke to a locksmith and he said that Sentry safes are of poor quality and that probably better to buy a new one (he sells gun safes:D). Also emailed Sentry with no response.

Any ideas?

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shotgunjoel
July 18, 2009, 07:58 PM
Sentrys are kinda the cheeper safes out there...... That said, mine is a Sentry.

cyclopsshooter
July 18, 2009, 07:59 PM
sentry is a p o s.... that said, i have one too

EvanWilliams
July 18, 2009, 10:22 PM
So, I'm screwed!?
I saw a Winchester safe at costco today. 500 bucks. I think they are made in Ft. Worth. Only problem would be dragging that MoFo onto a truck and into the house etc. I don't think Costco delivers!!!

Dominus
July 18, 2009, 11:05 PM
You can order on line from Costco, but they don't seem to have that Winchester safe.
http://www.costco.com/Common/Search.aspx?Dx=mode+matchallpartial&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&N=5000043&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&ViewAll=31&Ntk=Text_Search&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&lang=en-US&D=safe&search=safe&Ntt=safe&topnav=

MattTheHat
July 19, 2009, 12:21 AM
I looked at the Winchester online for several months, for about $800, IIRC. I probably would have gone that route, but I could never find one in stock. I ended up buying the largest safe I could find at Academy, which is a good sized safe, for about a K buck. They have a slightly smaller one for $100 less, but I knew I'd eventually be kicking myself if I didn't get the larger one. It's made by Cannon, and the quality is okay, probably on par with the Winchester.

It fit in the back of my Expedition, though it took four or five guys from the store to load it. Using a little creativity, me and my 14 year old son unloaded it and got it into the garage and installed.

One word of advice. If you buy a safe locally, make sure it opens before you leave the store with it. If it won't, have them drag another one out that will. (Don't ask how I came to have this particular gem of advice to offer.)


-Matt

EvanWilliams
July 19, 2009, 12:39 AM
Thanks for the 411.
We are almost neighbors! I live off Legacy and 75 in Plano.

I looked at Costco today and they have 2 winchester safes.
If I buy I will make sure to open and close before leaving store.
Thanks

TexasRedneck
July 19, 2009, 12:58 AM
Golf balls....lots of 'em. Put 'em under the safe, and you can put that puppy anywhere ya want. Try it before you laugh - I moved my 1800 lb Ft. Knox in that way.

shooterfromtexas
July 19, 2009, 01:01 AM
good to keep the guns away from the kids, that's it.

kanewpadle
July 19, 2009, 01:10 AM
sentry is a p o s.... that said, i have one too
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Please don't use golf balls. Use wood dowels rods to roll the safe but only if on a hard surface. If you need more tips send a PM. I used to move safes until I got older and a little smarter.

TexasRedneck
July 19, 2009, 01:13 AM
Try them dowels on carpet....and while they will work, the dowels force straight-line travel, making it difficult to turn corners, etc. I'd like to know what your problems with the golf balls are.....

ThrottleJockey72
July 19, 2009, 01:18 AM
I think the purchase you are about to make is actually an "RSC", not a safe by ANY measure. You can search youtube and find video of people with no experience at all breaking into them in like 2 minutes flat. They will protect you from honest people and kids, and that's about it. Here is a thread from one of our esteemed expert members that should help explain it a bit better http://thehighroad.us/showthread.php?t=408858. Just be sure you understand that you arent going to get an actual safe for less than a few thousand bucks! Oh and I am a professional mover, golf balls will work, but I recommend just shelling out the 10-15 bucks and rent an actual appliance dolly with kick back wheels and a ratchet strap, it makes it a one man job, 2 if you want to go up stairs. You can also rent one with an electric motor that climbs the stairs making even that a one man job.

kanewpadle
July 19, 2009, 01:47 AM
Try them dowels on carpet....and while they will work, the dowels force straight-line travel, making it difficult to turn corners, etc. I'd like to know what your problems with the golf balls are.....
Dowels are much easier to use. When moving the safe, move dowels from front to back until safe is in position. Golf balls work. But dowels are easier to control and keep track of.

ThrottleJockey72
July 19, 2009, 01:53 AM
I am a professional mover, golf balls will work, but I recommend just shelling out the 10-15 bucks and rent an actual appliance dolly with kick back wheels and a ratchet strap, it makes it a one man job, 2 if you want to go up stairs. You can also rent one with an electric motor that climbs the stairs making even that a one man job.
Dowels will work too, but refer to the above quote, then understand that dowels, broom handles, pipes, and less so golf balls, will stretch your carpet and cost a ton of money to fix it. Also, with many hardwood floors, golf balls can cause damage if you don't use enough to properly distribute the weight. Just rent the dolly and save yourself the headache and hours of your time, this will also make your wife think you know what you are doing and you will look like superman to her:D

nwilliams
July 19, 2009, 02:14 AM
Any safe is better than no safe at all.

ThrottleJockey72
July 19, 2009, 02:26 AM
Any safe is better than no safe at all.
I'm not going to disagree, but it could be argued that an inferior one will only provide you with a false sense of security and misplaced confidence. And an RSC is not at all the same as a safe.

RonAMOK
July 19, 2009, 02:55 AM
Sounds like one of the bolts in the lever/bar mechanism for the locking bars came out. Try taking the back off the door. It may be salvageable with the replacement of a small nut and bolt. The lock may also have broken. I bought a used one for $50, installed, a few years ago.

Birdmang
July 19, 2009, 03:15 AM
Dicks Sporting goods sells some really nice gun safes, every quarter they try to get rid of them by knocking 40-50 percent off for one week. Trust me, I work there and we are having a sale soon where I intend to buy one with my discount!

kirklandkie
July 19, 2009, 03:45 AM
two days ago i just finished my quest for a gun safe, best bang for the buck in my area turned out to be a 1000 dollar cabela's brand 12-24 gun safe. it's a real slick machine and is easy on the eyes to top it off.
i suggest buying in store though, the same safe costs almost 300 more online then in the store.

-kirk

EvanWilliams
July 19, 2009, 10:13 AM
Thanks, RonAMOK. I will try that.

a1abdj
July 19, 2009, 01:58 PM
Sentry is lower end, and they do not sell parts. If the bolts are attempting to extend further on one side than on another, I'd take a look inside the door. Whatever the cause, it should be obvious. Might be a missing nut, or it could be a broken weld. Either of those would be worth fixing.

I saw a Winchester safe at costco today. 500 bucks. I think they are made in Ft. Worth.

They are made in China.

EvanWilliams
July 19, 2009, 04:48 PM
Thanks to all but especially A1Abdj and RonAMOK. I took the back off the door and was able to get it functional. Can't tell exactly what is wrong yet. Just looked at it but with some manual lift on the 3rd (lower) bolt I was able to operate the dial and close the safe. At least I can secure the guns.
I am going to work some more on it once the kids are up from nap. Don't want to wake them smashing around.
Thanks guys. Will let you know how it turns out.

oneounceload
July 19, 2009, 05:58 PM
Try your local locksmith that sells safes - he might have a trade-in for a great price

krs
July 19, 2009, 06:16 PM
I think that if you make a frame that's not as high as a golf ball the golf ball method might work pretty slick. You'd need a bunch of them though, so maybe go to a driving range, rent a bucketful and sneak them out. When you're done with the safe take them back.

raskolnikov_22
July 19, 2009, 06:21 PM
Any safe is better than no safe at all.


I don't know. I'd rather just conceal them somewhere. After all, a safe will only pique a criminal's curiosity. (I too am a not-so-proud owner of a Sentry)

EvanWilliams
July 19, 2009, 06:24 PM
Well Guys. It is fixed!!! I could remove the bolt with an allen wrench. The "arm" arm holding the bolt was bent from my wife's forceful closure with a misaligned bolt. Couldn't really straighten the arm but got the bolt on track and it works.
Thanks THR!!

ThrottleJockey72
July 19, 2009, 08:48 PM
A1Abdj is an expert, I think he even sells safes. I actually argued the whole RSC vs. Safe issue with him once upon a time under a different name:uhoh: and he educated me very well! As did CB900F. They can give you just about ANY advice you would ever need regarding lock up.

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