Best deals on surplus or C&R guns right now?


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j-easy
July 19, 2009, 08:00 AM
I'm trying to pick out a new fun C&R and/or surplus gun what is the latest and greatest deal that is coming off of the boats? I missed out on the $250 Sig P6's last year.

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texascarl
July 19, 2009, 10:58 AM
The CZ-82's are probably my favorite of the current offerings. I got mine from CDNN.

j-easy
July 19, 2009, 12:13 PM
The CZ-82's are probably my favorite of the current offerings. I got mine from CDNN.

what did that run you if you don't mind me askin?

strmday
July 19, 2009, 02:18 PM
Not necessarily the best deal, but an interesting deal none the less.
Aim Surplus has Swiss Model 1911 K11 carbines for $350.
Straight pull Swiss rifles are a thing of beauty. They would have been gone quickly a couple of years ago but it seems like a lot of people, including me, are holding on to their cash. If I had an extra 350, I'd grab one to go with my K31's

krs
July 19, 2009, 05:07 PM
The CZ82's go from around $190. to $230. and are a good deal no matter what you pay for one.

They are C&R eligible.

They're fine pistols, identical to the CZ83 except for finish, grips, and that they shoot 9x18mm Makarove instead of .380. Makarov is a more powerful cartridge and has remained easily available through this ammo shortage business.

545days
July 19, 2009, 09:12 PM
My CZ82 was $199 from AIM (plus $20.50 shipping) in June of 2007.

It's double action trigger was so sweet that I thought something must certainly be broken - it couldn't possibly be that good. But it was that good, and now it is my concealed carry favorite. In addition, Academy started carrying 9mm Mak ammo back before the great ammo run of 2009. I assume they will have it in stock again once the panic settles down.

mm1ut1
July 19, 2009, 09:48 PM
M1 carbine prices have really dropped. $500.00 carbines in good shape are fairly common, just have to look a bit. A hundred or so extra will get you a very nice one. Enfield "Tanker" revolvers have dropped also. Swedish M96s and M39 Finns are all over the place. 1903A3s have dropped, especially WW2 rebuilds.

K31s have really gone up, nearly triple in price the last few years. S&W Victory revolvers are also getting higher prices, especially in 38 spl. The CMP supply of good Garands is dropping, causing an upswing in prices. The ever increasing cost of 30-06 may see a damper on demand, though.

Smart money investments: 1871/84 Mausers, especially in very good condition. Rolling Block rifles in 43 Spanish are way under valued. For you battle rifle affectiondos I have one word. "Hakim!"

This has been the Sunday night Milsurp report, brought to you by Kosmo Cosmoline. Your dad couldn't get it off, think you can?

Animal Mother
July 19, 2009, 10:31 PM
Given the prices on surplus ammo, the Tokarevs that are now available for around $220 are a great deal when you consider that surplus ammo is available in quanity for around 11 cents a round.

chuckusaret
July 19, 2009, 11:46 PM
I picked up a Mosin Nagant 91/30 for $90 and a like new Makarov pistol for $250 last week.. The Tokarevs are also a good deal and can be had for +/-$200. I just got my C & R license back and plan on getting a "bunch" of the old military weapons. My wife and I have a different meaning of "bunch". To her it is one or two, to me it is more than six.......

Wyo_F-A
July 19, 2009, 11:50 PM
My wife and I have a different meaning of "bunch".

Just think shoes for her, and guns for you.

karlsgunbunker
July 20, 2009, 12:01 AM
Romanian Tok - $220
Yugo Tok - $230
Mosin 91/30 - $80

those are about the best deals available right now.

christcorp
July 20, 2009, 12:18 AM
Definitely the CZ-82; the Tokarev; and the Mosin. As noted, the prices for the guns are great; the availability and price off ammo is even better. One thing about the Tokarev. It's definitely a larger gun. Not really for the concealed carry. And one thing for sure; EXCEPT for the 357 mag and 44 mag, there isn't a traditional cartridge in hand guns that can even come close to it. Even basic Wolf ammo comes out OVER 1700 ft per second and almost 600 ft/lbs. There's even HOTTER stuff out there that pushes the 600-700 ft/lb numbers. But my favorite of the eastern block military is the cz-82. I got mine for $200.

j-easy
July 22, 2009, 09:55 PM
anyone have any experiences with wideners? are they surplus rifles in good shape? what im looking at.

a M44 Mosin-Nagant for $99, already have a 91/30, but not this one
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7006&dir=700|701

a Yugo Mauser for $129, i've got a WWII German one already, what are the differences between the two?
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7007&dir=700|701

a Swiss K31, I have no experience with these rifles
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7347&dir=700|701

j-easy
July 24, 2009, 12:30 AM
^^^bump to get some answers don't want to add another thread if i don't have too.

thanks

Mr. Bojangles
July 24, 2009, 04:34 AM
You just can't go wrong with a Mosin. It is a scientific fact that rifles with bayonets attached are much more fun to shoot (especially when the bayonet is really just a gigantic rusty screwdriver. :D

For under a hundred bucks it's tough to get anything better.

j-easy
July 24, 2009, 05:12 AM
what does wideners charge for shipping a rifle?

outerlimit
July 24, 2009, 08:45 AM
I would have liked a K31 when they were $89 for many years. Now that they are much higher lately, I doubt I'll ever own one. The CZ-82's are a decent deal if you can find a nice one. There aren't any real C&R deals out there anymore in my opinion. The best deals seem to be on other stuff these days.

c5_nc
July 24, 2009, 09:39 AM
Tokarevs are the "deal" for me. You maybe could make a case for a P64 for conceal carry, or a CZ82 for quality/value.

Proinsias
July 24, 2009, 02:21 PM
what does wideners charge for shipping a rifle?

They charged me $11 even. I'm still waiting for mine, so not the timeliest shipping, but best value I can find.

Kernel
July 24, 2009, 02:25 PM
The CZ-82 looks interesting. Hard to justify, though, since you could get a used 9mm Ruger crunch-n-clicker for about the same price.

shuvelrider
July 24, 2009, 02:36 PM
I would say to pick up anything French, no more french anything will be imported as milsurps. Original caliber of 7.5, not the .308 conversions. Price a MAS 49/56, they hover around the 500 mark, mine is original from 1962 and not a rebuild, a real hoot to shoot.

jad0110
July 24, 2009, 09:01 PM
M1 carbine prices have really dropped. $500.00 carbines in good shape are fairly common, just have to look a bit.

Ooo, where at? :evil:

outerlimit
July 24, 2009, 09:21 PM
The CZ-82 looks interesting. Hard to justify, though, since you could get a used 9mm Ruger crunch-n-clicker for about the same price.

Ya, my thoughts exactly. The CZ-82 has a nice small size for a double stack though.

nathan
July 24, 2009, 09:28 PM
That CZ 82 is deadly accurate bec it has the fixed barrel. Next time I will use mine for requalification of my CHL. Ammo is still on the affordable side, thank God but it s climbing by the day.

theotherwaldo
July 24, 2009, 10:52 PM
Samco's prices are on the way back down. They've got some cracked-stock K-31s (http://www.samcoglobal.com/k31.html) for $219 to $239 plus shipping.

They've also got some Yugo Mausers (http://www.samcoglobal.com/m24.html) for $149 to $179.

There are some OK deals out there, depending on your tastes.

DMK
July 25, 2009, 12:13 PM
Swiss K31s rock. It is the best (and most accurate) surplus rifle I ever bought, with the exception of my M1 Garand. For $200-250, these rifles are a steal.

I'm not sure what the 7.5x55 Swiss ammo situation is though. If it's not available, that would be a big buzzkill. OTOH, if you're a reloader, this is a great platform to roll your own ammo for (.308 bore and very similar to .308 loads).

outerlimit
July 25, 2009, 02:55 PM
The way I understand it the 7.5x55 Swiss surplus dried up awhile back. If you can find any, it is much higher than it used to be. And of course berdian primed, so not reloadable. There is commercial ammo available.

bennadatto
July 25, 2009, 04:40 PM
mm1ut1,

you said 1903's are coming down in price. From where? All I see at the CMP are "unfireable" 1903's.

Mike OTDP
July 25, 2009, 08:25 PM
I'd rate the Cz-82 as a Must Buy. They're like East German Makarovs...the day they run out, the price will double.

Tokarevs are OK.

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