.need .357 carbine load data please


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Encoreman
July 20, 2009, 12:28 AM
Hi all, am looking for safe load data for .357 Marlin carbine. I want some middle of the road loads and some loads to hunt whitetails with. Any info will be appreciated. Thanks Mac

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zxcvbob
July 20, 2009, 12:32 AM
It's the same as loading for a revolver, but you might want to look at some published load data using Lil'Gun powder and 180 grain bullets. With most other powders, the sweet spot seems to be 158 grains (or reasonably close to it, like 160's)

ArchAngelCD
July 20, 2009, 12:33 AM
Powder charges for a Carbine should be no different than when loading for a handgun. A good load is a good load no matter what it's shot from.

For deer I would suggest a 180gr hard cast bullet like that from Cast Performance (http://www.castperformance.com/Detail.bok?no=5) or a 180gr Hornady XTP (https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_session=d4be138e5a78845da047c7f2085d9baf&page=shop%2Fbrowse&category_id=03f5bc0b39f584f443753498359f2f7c) bullet. I like Lil'Gun when loading heavy bullets in the .357 Magnum.

LOL, zxcvbob was typing when I was but was just a little faster!!

Ben Shepherd
July 20, 2009, 01:43 AM
Lil gun, 2400, 296 or AA9, would work wonderfully behind a tough 158(XTP, Gold Dot) or a 180(XTP, HCSWC, etc.)

Thing is, you may not want straight up maximum velocity. Push 'em too fast and they'll act like a varmint bullet when they hit. Try to find a spot about 2/3ds-3/4 the way up the charge weights that gives you best accuracy. Then load 'em and be done with it.

They'll be going plenty fast, but not fast enough to blow up on impact, and they'll be going were you intend them to.

loadedround
July 20, 2009, 02:07 PM
Take a look at Hodgdon Powder's website for 357 Mag loading information for the bullet of your choice. www.hodgdon.com :)

ChristopherG
July 20, 2009, 02:10 PM
My favorite load for the Marlin .357 (which I've repeated many times--it really works) is a 158 gr. XTP flat point over 18.0 grains Lil gun. 2000 fps, best accuracy of any bullet in my Marlin.

rcmodel
July 20, 2009, 02:11 PM
Or better yet, Buy a reloading manual!

rc

Remo-99
July 21, 2009, 08:05 AM
Shooting whitetails with a 357mag carbine, you might be looking for regular 357mag loadings rather than middle of the road data, which entails downloading a 357mag to 38spl +P/+P+ type loads.

Using powders such as 2400 or 296 and jacketed bullets 158gr and above will get you what your looking for, I believe.

PO2Hammer
July 21, 2009, 12:31 PM
Anyone subscribe to Handloader magazine?

There was a good article by Brian Pierce last fall on hunting loads for .357 lever guns.

He decided XTP's over Lil' Gun was the way to go.

I broke my leg last night, otherwise I would dig through my magazines.

Encoreman
July 21, 2009, 02:41 PM
Thanks RC I have a loading manual thank you!! I thought that somebody may have already been thru this and had a good load. Sorry to have bothered YOU!!

fourdollarbill
July 21, 2009, 03:38 PM
The Lyman 49th has a section just for 357 mag carbine loads. I like the 2400 for the slower mid range 158gr LSWC plinkers with no gas check. 2400 has a huge range and you can use standard primers. Now for the power house with safe pressures I love the 180XTP over 15 grains of Lil-gun with mag primers. I shoot it out of my 1894cs, it is accurate and man does it ever hit hard.

Encoreman
July 21, 2009, 07:36 PM
Thanks 4$ that is the kind of info I was looking for, will be getting a Lyman 49

flipajig
July 21, 2009, 10:09 PM
I have a M94 in 44mag also a SBH 44mag so im staying with the hand gun loads for my
M94 so that i can use them in both guns. Im using 2400 with stanard primers so that i dont have to mess with mag primers. for mid range loads im using W231 with good results
for my SBH and cast SWC my M94 im haveing feeding problems. so i need to get some cast rnfp for the M94. so that i can work up a plinking load for it..

Walkalong
July 21, 2009, 10:27 PM
Until I gave my Winchester 94 .44 Mag to my son, I used the same load in it as I did my .44 Mag Redhawk. I never chronoed it in the carbine though. Wish I had. It's a 240 Gr JSP at over 1300 FPS from the 5.5" Redhawk.

Speer #13 gives .357 and .44 Mag loads in the pistol and rifle sections. I would assume #14 does as well.

It shows loads for 110 through 158 Gr in .357, with the usual powders (H110/W296) giving the best velocities with 125 & 140 Gr bullets, but showing N110 at the top with 110 & 158 Gr bullets, with H110/W296 right behind it.

They list the same loads, grain wise, in both sections. The rifle sections shows increases in velocities from around 485 FPS (N110 & 158 Gr) to 567 FPS (W296 & 140 Gr) to 774 FPS (N110 & 110 Gr) increases depending on weight and powder.

6" Model 19 vs 18" Marlin 1894

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