The John Dillinger tribute Thompson


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Owen Sparks
July 20, 2009, 05:22 PM
In the new issue of Guns & Ammo there is a full page ad on page 43 from a company called America Remembers for a collectible gold plated engraved semi-auto Thompson gun. It is marketed as:

The John Dillinger "Public Enemy Number One" Tribute Thompson.

Does anybody besides me see this as an atrocity? John Dillinger was a thief and a murderer whose criminal misuse of this particular firearm is one of the main reasons that YOU can't legally own a real fully-automatic Thompson gun.

I wonder if 'America Remembers' will release the Son of Sam tribute Charter Arms Bulldog or The Klebold and Harris Tech-9.

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CoRoMo
July 20, 2009, 05:37 PM
They could have/should have made it a tribute to J.T. Thompson, but instead, the coattails of the Depp movie were too tempting to pass up.

Mikee Loxxer
July 20, 2009, 05:41 PM
I too thought it was in poor taste. Should be "America would like to forget" instead of "America Remembers."

Ky Larry
July 20, 2009, 05:48 PM
This is really nothing new. Remember the impact the movie "Bonnie and Clyde" had on pop culture? A few years ago, Charley Manson t-shirts were all the rage. A drunk horndog like Ted Kennedy iis still cheered by people. Nobody ever said Americans had any brains, taste, or morals.:barf:

rcmodel
July 20, 2009, 05:52 PM
Next issue will be the Charles Manson Tribute butcher knife.

Saw another one in last Sundays paper advertising a John Wayne Colt six-shooter picture.

The loading gate was on the left side, and there were no hammer or triggers screws in the frame!

rc

cat9x
July 20, 2009, 05:57 PM
"tribute" - a gift or service showing respect, gratitude, or affection

dedication to a murderous criminal, American Remembers failed on this one.

Oyeboten
July 20, 2009, 06:31 PM
How 'bout a 'Signature Series' Ed Gyne Skillet set?


Dillinger did have quite a public approval rating...as did Bonnie and Clyde a few years earlier...


Vastly more in fact, than 'Banks', or, the FBI ever did, or ever will...


For what it's worth...

alemonkey
July 20, 2009, 06:36 PM
Very poor taste, IMHO. Plus it's quite possibly the ugliest gaudiest gun since Saddam's AK.

knockonit
July 20, 2009, 06:38 PM
Its no worse than a nation morning a child molester, in fact its a little kinder.
IMO.
Anyone honoring that POS oughta hand their head and leave town. again just my opinion.

Dr.Rob
July 20, 2009, 06:57 PM
Hmmm not really much different than marketing Schofields as the pistol favored by the James Gang?


Let's face it 'outlaws' are a symbol of the American Experience. There's a reason a John Wesley Hardin business card will sell for $500. Law enforcemnt guys weren't hauling Thompsons in violin cases, and yet the cases remain popular.

Maybe in poor taste and ironic (given the NFA laws of 34), but hardly a moral outrage.

People actually DO buy paintings made by John Wayne Gacy (which I personally find creepy as all get out.). There's a huge market in serial killer memorobilia out there which is probably not as lucrative as selling a pistol once owned by (insert old west outlaw here), but I personally don't see the difference.

3446
July 20, 2009, 07:03 PM
John Dillinger robbed a bank in small NW Ohio home town. One of their claims to fame.

shotgunjoel
July 20, 2009, 07:04 PM
Oh, but the criminals then have been so romanticized. No I don't like it, but I half-way understand it.

Animal Mother
July 20, 2009, 07:15 PM
Its very poor taste, but they will sell every single one of them.

If America Remembers wants to turn a profit off of the exploits of a cop killer, then it is their right. It is also my right to never purchase their merchandise.

GRIZ22
July 20, 2009, 07:23 PM
Very poor taste like the Joe Stalin Tokarev.

j-easy
July 20, 2009, 07:49 PM
http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:kO6TOA9PFx8ahM:http://www.americaremembers.com/products/DILLTHOMP/DillingerThompsonLeftCU.jpg

ugliest gun i have seen in a while..

Deltaboy
July 20, 2009, 07:54 PM
I wouldn't buy it!

JohnMcD348
July 20, 2009, 10:15 PM
Funny you bring this up. For the past couple of years my FIL has wanted a true Winchester 98 Rifle. Finally a couple of weeks ago, I took him to the gun show here in town. He found and bought the first one he saw. It was the Illinois(sesquicentennial I think) tribute rifle. I told him he needed to counter sink one of those Obama coins they were offering on TV awhile back onto the other side of the stock opposite the Illinois crest and resell it as the Obama Commemorative 98.:evil:

2RCO
July 20, 2009, 10:20 PM
I wouldn't buy any of America Remembers craptasticized guns. I think they should put out a Bin Laden Krinkov to show just how off the charts they are.

THE DARK KNIGHT
July 20, 2009, 10:30 PM
That is very poor taste, +1 to what the guy said about Dillinger being one of the reasons WE the law abiding can't own a real tommy gun.

And to add...how about the DC Sniper Edition AR-15?

Kevin5098
July 20, 2009, 10:50 PM
I haven't seen the ad, but sounds like EXTREMELY poor taste. IMHO Guns and Ammo staff made a HUGE mistake in accepting this ad. I will no longer purchase any of their publications. I will also review copies of publications I already have, and will make every attempt to boycott advertisers.

Sad indeed that a murdering thug like Dillinger is glorified in order to turn a fast buck.

2RCO
July 20, 2009, 11:05 PM
Kevin5098 I'm betting with the money America Remembers spends advertising in gun rags they could get the "Guns and Ammo Sucks Tribute Rifle" advertised.

oak1971
July 20, 2009, 11:10 PM
Save the $ and go see the real one at the Racine Wisconsin Police Dept.

model of 1905
July 20, 2009, 11:13 PM
I haven't seen the ad, but sounds like EXTREMELY poor taste. IMHO Guns and Ammo staff made a HUGE mistake in accepting this ad. I will no longer purchase any of their publications. I will also review copies of publications I already have, and will make every attempt to boycott advertisers.

Sad indeed that a murdering thug like Dillinger is glorified in order to turn a fast buck.
Well the same ad is in the latest issue of American Rifleman. I'd love to have one but I'm not paying $3200 for one.

Seems like a pretty strong and ridiculous overreaction on your part.

rondog
July 20, 2009, 11:15 PM
I wouldn't buy one no matter WHO it commemorated, I'm just not into special edition stuff like that. I think about how many "shooters" and how much ammo I could buy with the same money. I'd much rather have a plain-Jane new semi-auto Thompson, but that ain't gonna happen either.

Or, I could always just rent the real thing again....

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/tommy01.jpg

Maelstrom
July 20, 2009, 11:18 PM
And I thought I'd be the only one who noticed how insane it was...

Zoogster
July 20, 2009, 11:18 PM
The sale is in bad taste to clearly capitalize on the movie.

whose criminal misuse of this particular firearm is one of the main reasons that YOU can't legally own a real fully-automatic Thompson gun.

+1 to what the guy said about Dillinger being one of the reasons WE the law abiding can't own a real tommy gun.

No, crooked politicians are why you cannot own those firearms. There is hundreds of thousands of citizens who abuse numerous items on a regular basis that could be used to ban virtualy everything in society.
You could ban all vehicles that go over the speed limit and then blame people racing who resulted in deaths.
You could ban every type of gun, especialy handguns, as well as many long guns and everything else and come up with numerous examples of criminals misusing them. Cite how handguns are involved in most crime. Then once they are banned and criminals make due with new weapons they modify to be concealable cite how those are the new public threat requiring banning.
You could ban the availability of numerous chemicals which can be misused for various criminal activities.
Ban smoking, drinking etc and cite health concerns.
I could cite almost everything, and create logic that shows deaths that result from the freedom and how people would be safer with fewer freedoms.
You could ban or remove every single right privilidge or form of freedom in America and cite numerous examples of those freedoms resulting in harm, and give logicial examples of why everyone should be safer as a result.



If politicians had managed to ban all handguns after the Virginia Tech Massacre would that mean that specific criminal was responsible for getting handguns banned for us? No, it would be politicians exploiting tragedy to reign in freedoms, especialy freedoms that make thier subjects a little more feared.
Dillinger is not why you cannot own those weapons. Politicians, especialy those worried after a large number of soldiers marched on Washington to demand payment for World War 1, is why you cannot buy those firearms.
Criminals glorified in the media was just a convenient exploitable excuse to seriously infringe on one of the few rights the Constitution says they cannot infringe on.

There was actualy fewer criminals commiting fewer crimes per capita than there is today. That is a big reason they were so famous, just like many wild west criminals before them. The reality was such criminals were very rare back then, while today your average gangster killing several people on a criminal spree would not even be out of the ordinary. So they were unique and fascinating back then making thier way into the history books, while today they would have been merely another criminal.

jaholder1971
July 20, 2009, 11:23 PM
The Dillinger commemorate aside, I don't get the whole idea behind pimping 500 guns with someone's face in gold leaf and calling it a commemorative, period.

John Wayne
July 20, 2009, 11:28 PM
IMHO, if anyone makes a John Dillinger tribute gun, it should be carved out of wood. From what I understand, Dillinger was one of the few "gangsters" that didn't want to go around shooting anyone. IIRC, he only shot one man and was arrested without a fight. This doesn't justify his actions by any means, I'm just saying that not only is a firearm commemorative ironic, it's in poor taste.

paintballdude902
July 21, 2009, 12:07 AM
haha i just thought about posting this

Justin
July 21, 2009, 12:36 AM
America Remembers is nothing more than a second-rate plating service churning out engraved crap to credulous morons.

They are the Franklin Mint of firearms.

Kevin5098
July 21, 2009, 08:52 AM
Well the same ad is in the latest issue of American Rifleman. I'd love to have one but I'm not paying $3200 for one.

Model of 1905: Thanks for pointing that out. There is also sidebar in the article on Purvis and Dillinger promoting this commemorative. Guess they don't need my money.

DFW1911
July 21, 2009, 08:59 AM
Very poor taste indeed. I wonder what Marketing "whiz" came up with this plan and if they have ANY concept on what the actions of Dillinger, et al, had on gun control?

My guess is they do not and they most likely don't care.

Some folks will do anything for a buck.

Thanks for posting.

Regards,
DFW1911

Acera
July 21, 2009, 11:29 AM
I guess it is about time for a gold plated M1 Carbine to celebrate the life of Che.:barf:

How did they pass up that opportunity for sales earlier this year when that movie came out..............

ArmedBear
July 21, 2009, 11:31 AM
America Remembers is nothing more than a second-rate plating service churning out engraved crap to credulous morons.


LOL

I think you may be giving them too MUCH credit here.:)

Justin
July 21, 2009, 11:39 AM
Most likely I am. Aren't they affiliated with that company that takes historical guns like WWII era 1911's and Lugers and tacks all that eye-stabbingly bad gold crap on them?

Nothing more than bling for fat middle-aged men with comb overs and Walter Mitty complexes.

SuperNaut
July 21, 2009, 11:52 AM
"Mahana you ugly."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNhvYvB1NxY

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