Is there any 7.62x51 hunting ammo (not FMJ)?


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bobotech
July 22, 2009, 11:59 AM
Someone on another board who doesn't load wants 10-20 rounds of hunting ammo for his Spanish Mauser (not FR8) which can only handle safe 7.62x51 loads.

He says that his gun isn't safe for 308 hunting style loads.

But is there any soft point/hollow point hunting loads with lower 7.62x51 loadings?

He was posting that he wanted someone to load some up for him and mail them to him but I suggested that wasn't the best idea for liability reasons.

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ants
July 22, 2009, 12:04 PM
You are correct about liability.

If he wants reduced loads, they are often published as Youth loads. Hodgdon has them on the web site. Your friend may want to start reloading for himself.

bobotech
July 22, 2009, 12:09 PM
But what we are looking for are factory loaded "youth" hunting rounds.

Is there such an animal?

He doesn't want to go though the expense of setting up for loading just for 10-20 rounds of ammo a year.

rcmodel
July 22, 2009, 01:09 PM
Rat Cheer!

Both Remington & Federal make what you are looking for.

http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/centerfire/managed-Recoil.asp

http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=022-F308FSLR1

BYW: It is against the law to sell reloads, and/or send it through the mail.

rc

bobotech
July 22, 2009, 01:26 PM
Is it officially against the law to send reloads to someone via any type of parcel post whether it be USPS/Fed Ex/UPS/etc? I just want some cites so that I can send a link to the person who is asking about this.

Thanks for the links though!!

rcmodel
July 22, 2009, 01:49 PM
No, you can send loaded ammo by UPS with the correct ORM-D haz-mat labels, Haz-Mat fees, etc.
http://www.adazonusa.com/howtoshipammunitionorammo-a-45.html

It is against the law to mail it via USPS
See section 8.6
http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/601.htm#wp1103548

It is against federal law to sell reloaded ammo unless you hold a Manufactures licence from the ATF.
See Section H4.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#h3

rc

bobotech
July 22, 2009, 03:05 PM
Thanks for more info.

Is there any way to find the pressures of those low recoil rounds?

rcmodel
July 22, 2009, 03:20 PM
No. They won't tell you.

But if you compare the Remington 125 grain going at 2660 FPS in a reloading manual with any powder charge, it is a starting load at around 30-30 pressure, or 30,000 - 40,000 PSI.

The Federal 170 grain load would likewise compare with 30-30 Winchester power.

rc

shaggy430
July 22, 2009, 03:22 PM
Is there anything special you need to do to send spent brass through the mail? I've sent and received loaded through FedEX with the proper markings before, but I've got some spent brass I want to send to a relative.

rcmodel
July 22, 2009, 03:27 PM
NO. Brass is just brass unless it has live primers in it.

You can't send powder, primers, or loaded ammo. (Haz-Mat)

You can send empty brass & bullets. (Not Haz-Mat)

rc

pinkymingeo
July 22, 2009, 05:14 PM
You can't sell handloads if you engage in the business for profit. I see nothing wrong with selling a limited quantity for a specific purpose. Same as selling the occasional gun vs engaging in the business. Shipping UPS there is no hazmat fee or special paperwork for ammo. All you have to do is write ORM-D on the package. Tell the truth, I don't think they really even care about that.

rcmodel
July 22, 2009, 05:59 PM
Well, legal or not.

In todays legal climate, you would have to be a Complete Moron to sell your reloads to a guy on the Internet you don't even know!

rc

freakshow10mm
July 22, 2009, 08:18 PM
I see nothing wrong with selling a limited quantity for a specific purpose.
The issue isn't what YOU see, it's what the ATF sees.

USSR
July 22, 2009, 08:43 PM
In todays legal climate, you would have to be a Complete Moron to sell your reloads to a guy on the Internet you don't even know!

And an even bigger moron to shoot reloads made by somebody you don't even know!;)

Don

freakshow10mm
July 22, 2009, 09:17 PM
Yet you trust ammunition made by someone else. Seems funny.

pinkymingeo
July 23, 2009, 05:59 AM
I've never had a problem with my loads, but factory ammo has let me down on several occasions. I've sold unneeded ammo before, including my own loads, without worrying about it at all. For that matter, I use my own loads for CCW. I also don't worry about asteroid impacts, global warming (Oops! Sorry! I guess that's now officially Climate Change), sodium in my diet or the Second Coming of Elvis. There's always something to obsess about, I guess, if you choose to do so.

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