The numbers are in....


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Sheldon J
July 22, 2009, 01:30 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/02/article-1196941-05900DF7000005DC-677_468x636.jpg

and from nation master Crime statistics by country (http://www.nationmaster.com/cat/cri-crime&all=1) for the next time you bump into an anti that thinks no guns for honest citizens is a good idea....

not that this has anything to do with it but...
List of countries and dependencies by population density (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density) and List of countries by gun ownership (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership)

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CoRoMo
July 22, 2009, 02:00 PM
By and large, crime is a product of a number of social issues, rather than the level of infringement to the right to own and carry weapons. This list reads like a who's who in the world of socialism, so I wonder how much more a socialist ruled society is apt to these statistics.

everallm
July 22, 2009, 02:37 PM
Daily Mail, why am I not surprised, one of the most self loathing of the UK papers.

Trouble is the "facts" aren't.......

Each of the countries has a totally different definition of what is a "violent crime, for example in the UK, "affray" counts which encompasses everything from swearing at a PC at a demonstration to the recent classic where a journalist was arrested for taking photographs of some PC's in a scary manner....Actually because he was tall. I jest not

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/15/tall_photographers/

Each of the countries has a different capture point, for example the UK counts all initial reports to the police, not if there is a case brought.

browningguy
July 22, 2009, 03:51 PM
everallm, I wouldn't put to much faith in whatever the UK government tells you about crime staistics. As I recall just a couple of years ago they were caught lumping all crimes in a general area, within a certain amount of time, as one crime. That kept the crime rate from rising, for reporting purposes anyway.

And I did live there for five years, and still travel frequently to London for business.

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