OLD Marlin pump


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Gordon
July 24, 2009, 11:56 PM
I sprung $200 OTD with only a 4473 this after noon on a Marlin pump SG. I think it is a marlin model 96 , which was made 1896-1897. The last Pat date is 1896, and the model 1898 (which was made 1898-1905) I saw on a neat web page devoted to overhauling them had different markings all though it looked the same. It has a 30" barrel with only very little choke constriction, bout what we call skeet today. It has 2 3/4" chambers for sure. It is in 70% condition with fine wood and the blue gone plum on the reciever and gray with freckling on the barrel.
The web page about them is MOST informative! Appartently these guns were know as Widow Makers, because if the inertia release and the secondary sear fail they could slam fire out of battery if you held the trigger and the bolt could shewar a lug and come back atcha! In reallity IF you inspect and keep the gun clean that is NOT gonna happen. Reccomended is 2 1/2 dram loads and keeping it under 3 drams. I have 100 Navy Arms Black Powder #6 shells I been hoarding they should make a statement at SASS ! The gun is already dissasembled by me this evening, it is the most ingenious design I've ever seen! It takes down and the lock up is adjustable! It hold 6 shells in the mag tube! The bolt and hammer come waay out so your hand cannot be above the tang! I am stoked and going back out till midnight to bronze wool it on the rusty parts, and take it out of the vat of marvel mistery oil I got the parts soaking in. It was bone dry when I got it and didn't function well which is why a great looking rare antique was $180!:D
Pictures will follow. Give me a shout if you know about these old Marlin hammer pump SGs.:scrutiny:
http://www.100megspop3.com/oldvalkyry/marlin.html

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KenWP
July 25, 2009, 12:27 AM
Does it look like a Winchester 97 by any chance. I have a Marlin pump and its basically a Winchester 97 whch was a Brownng pat.

Gordon
July 25, 2009, 02:52 AM
Definitely not a 97 type action ! Not a JMB patent either. The breech block is like the old 1887 Marlin rifle; slab sided and open on the right of lower reciever.
Relys on "inertia safety hooks" and such to back up the firing pin release of the breech block. Neat little "action release" on back of the reciever below right to hammer.
After bronze wooling it, greaseing it after the Marvel MYstery oil soak and tooth brush I have decided to leave the 30" loose choked barrel the way it is, ditto butt stock with it's 110 YO gutta percha Marlin scripted butt plate !
The thing matches my 1892 Winchester 32-20 rifle and 32-20 1905 Colt Bisley so well I had to smoke a Cohiba, drink a single malt and listen to a Cole Porter CD while sitting in the man cave and looking!:D!

Gordon
July 25, 2009, 03:53 AM
Hepburn patents!
http://books.google.com/books?id=a9XL74ykUykC&pg=PA350&lpg=PA350&dq=marlin+shotgun+patents&source=bl&ots=jD58Mo0ikO&sig=ZV1QVRHxB9sMc32nANBmu7S9gT4&hl=en&ei=LbNqSrCzKYqusgOZ-ZyXBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

Fred Fuller
July 25, 2009, 10:21 AM
Gordon,

Enjoy being stoked- it's a good feeling to give a warm welcoming home to an old crusader. Your PETP dues are hereby paid for another installment...

lpl

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