July 25, 2009, 10:48 AM
I'm FL resident vacationing in NC right now.
I have FL CCW. Can I CCW in vehicle in NC? How? If not, what's the legal way to have a loaded gun in a car in NC?
July 25, 2009, 12:20 PM
IANAL, but NC and FL have full reciprocity.
In NC, the "unconcealed" method of transport is to either have it openly displayed on the seats around you, or locked in the trunk. This is considered open carry, and there is no NC state regulation on open carry, whether it be directly on your person, or immediately accessible to you.
As a CCW holder, you are allowed to carry loaded, on your person and hidden, under the seat, in the glovebox, or with a coat thrown over it, in the center console, etc.
Essentially, if the gun is not IMMEDIATELY obvious to anyone looking into your car, and it it's not locked in the rear of the car and COMPLETELY inaccessible to you without a lock in the way (I.e, far back of an SUV does NOT COUNT!) you need to be a CCW holder (which you are.)
Either way, ALWAYS identify that you are armed IMMEDIATELY when addressed by an LEO.
Be careful in Cary, Durham, and Chapel Hill - These two places have city/county ordinances that are very different than NC state law! I avoid them, so I couldn't tell you exactly what's different, but you should be able to find it pretty easily if you need to.
July 25, 2009, 12:28 PM
Here's the NC "cheat sheet" on concealed and open carry prohibited locations, which may help you, as well:
Ten areas are listed in N.C.G.S. 14-415.11(c) as places a concealed
handgun is not allowed by the permit statute. On some of this
location, no firearm, open or concealed, can be lawfully possessed by a private citizen.
Any firearm on those premises is illegal. In others, the prohibition extends
to concealed handguns. These locations are
designated as no concealed handgun zones by the permit statute.
The difference between no firearm zone and no concealed carry
zone is important. A handgun that is openly carried, and not
concealed, does not violate the concealed carry statute and does not
violate the concealed deadly weapon statute, N.C.G.S. 14-269, but the
no firearm zones prohibit open and concealed firearms.
a) Educational property: NO FIREARMS
Educational property is generally that of any public or private
educational institution. Included are the buildings, grounds,
recreation and athletic areas, buses, and . . . other property
owned, used, or operated (by a public or private educational
institution). The educational institution may be a nursery
school or a university. The facility may be an entire hospital or
just a bus. Violation may be a Class I felony, N.C.G.S. 14-
b) Assembly where admission fee is charged: NO FIREARMS
Any assembly where an admission fee has been charged,
c) Alcoholic beverages sold and consumed: NO FIREARMS
In any place where alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed.
Certain exceptions are provided. Violation is a Class 1
Misdemeanor, N.C.G.S. 14-269.3.
d) Courthouses, state buildings, and federal property: NO
Firearms are prohibited on certain state property. Enumerated
are the State Capitol Building, the Executive Mansion, the
Western Residence of the Governor, or in any building housing
any court of the General Court of Justice. Certain exceptions
are provided. Federal property generally is also forbidden
under various provisions of federal and state statutes.
Violation is a Class 1 Misdemeanor, N.C.G.S. 14-269.4.
e) At a parade, demonstration, funeral, picket line: NO
Firearms are prohibited in, or as a spectator at, any parade,
funeral procession, picket line, or demonstration upon any
private health care facility, or upon any public place prohibited
by the state or any political subdivision. Violation is a Class 1
Misdemeanor, N.C.G.S. 14-277.2.
f) In a law enforcement facility: NO CONCEALED
In a law enforcement facility, meaning in any building or on
premises occupied by a law enforcement agency of the state, a
county, a municipality, a company police agency, or a campus
law enforcement facility.
g) Department of Correction facility: NO CONCEALED
In a correctional facility, meaning in a building or on premises
operated by the North Carolina Department of Correction.
h) Offices of state or federal government: NO CONCEALED
In any building housing only federal or state offices, or in any
office used by the state or federal government in any other
i) Financial institutions: NO CONCEALED HANDGUNS
In a financial institution, including banks, savings and loan, or
j) Anywhere a conspicuous sign posted: NO CONCEALED
On any premises where a conspicuous notice is posted, or
statement is made by the person in charge, that carrying a
concealed weapon is prohibited. Any property owner has the
right to prohibit possession of a concealed handgun. Notice
may be given personally by the person in charge of the
premises or by a conspicuous sign.
If the law prohibits only concealed handguns, and not all
firearms, a person with a concealed carry permit will comply
with the law by moving the handgun from a concealed to an
open, nonconcealed position. Of course, that may not be
practical under all circumstances.
Also, a person in charge of any private premises may prohibit
an openly possessed or concealed handgun by using the
trespass law. The occupant can, under the trespass law, order a
person openly carrying a firearm to leave. If the order to leave
is not obeyed, criminal trespass has been committed. Nothing
in the Aconcealed carry statute authorizes possession of any
weapon contrary to the wishes of the person in charge of
Suppose the person in charge of private property posts a
conspicuous sign prohibiting all firearms, open and concealed,
handguns or long guns. That use of trespass law is probably
valid. Going on that premise may be criminal trespass.
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