In-State Handgun rules vary by state?


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RatDrall
July 25, 2009, 01:58 PM
In Pennsylvania you have to transfer handguns through an FFL dealer, even with in state private party sales.

Are there states where it is legal to trade or sell handguns in-state, face to face, without a FFL check and transfer?

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mfcmb
July 25, 2009, 02:04 PM
New Mexico.

hugh damright
July 25, 2009, 02:33 PM
Virginia.

grndslm
July 25, 2009, 03:03 PM
Yes, nearly 80% of states allow 2 individuals to barter/trade without the interference of an FFL. All you need is a Bill of Sale.

Here's a map I just saw today: http://opencarry.org/privatetransfers.html

mgkdrgn
July 25, 2009, 03:20 PM
South Carolina

RatDrall
July 25, 2009, 04:17 PM
Thanks!

The guys who work at the local shop were arguing that it is Federal Law that all handguns have to be transferred through an FFL, while I asserted that it varies state by state.

I win!

Deanimator
July 25, 2009, 04:21 PM
Ohio

grndslm
July 25, 2009, 04:42 PM
The guys who work at the local shop were arguing that it is Federal Law that all handguns have to be transferred through an FFL, while I asserted that it varies state by state.

I winYes, if you're only talking about intra-state... then you go by the state's laws. But if it's inter-state... you go by the Fed's laws, which says that it must be transferred thru an FFL.

Tom488
July 25, 2009, 04:57 PM
We can even do private, face-to-face pistol transfers here in NJ.... 'course, the recipient still needs his permit to purchase a handgun - but no FFL required.

mgkdrgn
July 26, 2009, 08:25 AM
Thanks!

The guys who work at the local shop were arguing that it is Federal Law that all handguns have to be transferred through an FFL, while I asserted that it varies state by state.

I win!

That IS tru for interstate transactions, but not true for (all) intrastate sales.

This is also what is often refereed to as the "Gun Show Loophole", even though it has =nothing= to do with gunshows, other than that a face to face intrastate transaction can take place there.

maroast
July 26, 2009, 10:36 AM
Texas

armoredman
July 26, 2009, 11:14 AM
Actually, not ALWAYS true interstate, as well, one important exception. I send a handgun in for work to the manufacturer, they may send it back to me directly via overnight express. Just had that happen with my Tuarus, shipped by me from UPS hub to FL, and back to me from FL to AZ via FedEx. Not one FFL in my state was involved, and it's legal as church on whatever day of the week you wish.

Oh, and intrastate, AZ has no heartburn with FTF non FFL transactions of any non-NFA firearms, just says if you sell to a prohibited possessor, be prepared to face the consequences,

HOME DEPOT GEORGE
July 26, 2009, 12:38 PM
Florida

Leanwolf
July 26, 2009, 03:19 PM
Idaho.

L.W.

NavyLCDR
July 26, 2009, 06:45 PM
Actually, not ALWAYS true interstate, as well, one important exception. I send a handgun in for work to the manufacturer, they may send it back to me directly via overnight express. Just had that happen with my Tuarus, shipped by me from UPS hub to FL, and back to me from FL to AZ via FedEx. Not one FFL in my state was involved, and it's legal as church on whatever day of the week you wish.

That transaction did not involve any transfer of ownership and is unrelated to the topic of this thread.

rscalzo
July 26, 2009, 08:42 PM
NH allows FTF without the use of a FFL. However the state statute makes it the responsibility to know that the transfer does not violate any laws and that the buyer is legally able to accept and possess a firearm. Transfer to a person not permitted to posses leaves the seller in a precarious position. I only have transfered to a individual I knew was able to accept. I'd be very reluctant to transfer to a stranger.l

BBQLS1
July 27, 2009, 01:31 PM
Louisiana, Mississippi

snorky18
July 27, 2009, 01:53 PM
I started to say NC, then I clicked on the opencarry link http://opencarry.org/privatetransfers.html that says long guns only.

I was under the impression that handguns were legal to sell here in private party transfers with no FFL as long as the buyer has either a CCL or a pistol permit (to prove they can pass a background check). Anyone care to confirm/deny this?

isp2605
July 27, 2009, 02:10 PM
http://opencarry.org/privatetransfers.html
This site is not correct for IL. It states face to face is "legal for long guns only elsewhere". Not correct. IL allows face to face without FFL transfer for handguns and long guns. The seller is required to confirm the buyer has a state issued FOID card and to keep record of the transaction for 10 years. No FFL involvement is needed.

grndslm
July 27, 2009, 02:52 PM
You guys should contact the people at that website and let 'em know.

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