Please help me ID these guns:


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Tomahawk674
July 26, 2009, 07:00 PM
I just watched this movie called "dear wendy". WARNING do not watch that movie, I saw it because there were interesting guns in it but the movie is not worth watching in my opinion.

However, I would like to ID the guns because they don't mention the manufacturer names. The open top doesn't seem to have a trigger guard, and the trigger looks very odd. I don't know if that is stock or not.

Main gun (they call it a 6.35mm (.25 cal) double action 6 shooter:

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=102233&stc=1&d=1248649105

the 2 ther revolvers:

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=102234&stc=1&d=1248649105

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Shear_stress
July 26, 2009, 07:18 PM
At first I thought the revolver on the left was an Austrian Gasser or French St. Etienne Modele 1873. Did some digging it appears to be a Belgian "Chamelot-Delvigne Service-Type Revolver", at least according to "Guns" edited by David Miller. Glisenti also made a similar wheelgun.

No, I'd never heard of them either.

Tomahawk674
July 26, 2009, 08:28 PM
Thanks!

Any info on the open top? Here's another pic:

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=102248&d=1248654455

Jim K
July 26, 2009, 10:16 PM
The length of the cylinder makes it look like a true 5.7mm Velodog revolver. The cartridge is not very high power, but is quite long, about twice the length of a .22 LR round. All those guns are only so-so, dating from the late 19th or early 20th century. But being long obsolete, they look exotic, so the movie people used them. Sort of like the WWI guns in Star Wars or the old locomotive in Back to the Future, they are so old they look "different" and new.

Jim

Tomahawk674
July 27, 2009, 02:33 AM
Well thanks; I looked up that revolver you mentioned and it looks almost identical, except the one in the movie is a break top.

I'm really into historic guns, and aside from two modern autoloaders I have my beloved Uberti replica of a Colt 1861 cap and ball. I also finished and sold a Spiller & Burr cap and ball kit. I sold it at a gun show, were I got the chance to play with tons of original historical pistols.

I find that little revolver very interesting; I've never seen a folding trigger design before, just the spur triggers. So far it's a hammerless, folding trigger break top, european most likely? I'm very curious. Here's one more pic:

gb6491
July 27, 2009, 04:20 AM
Here's some more info on the "Lee/Grant" guns: Leon SOLEIL (http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20s/a%20soleil%20gb.htm)
Be warned: browsing that website can be addicting:)

Here are some Velo-Dog pistols similar to the one of your interest:
Revolver " Velodog" Belgian; in caliber 6 mm; circa 1895 (http://coleccionrosatto.blogspot.com/2008/03/el-velodog_20.html)
Mod. Velo Mith (http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/copie%20belge/a%20copies%20belges%20retolaza%20gb.htm)
Regards,
Greg

Radagast
July 27, 2009, 04:24 AM
Hunting through this site may take a while: http://www.littlegun.be/ but I would be surprised if you don't turn up the gun you are looking for. The Velodog revolvers I have seen all had the folding trigger and internal hammer. Literally it meant a bicyclist's gun for shooting dogs. (Velocipede & Dog). Apart from being a break top, the pictured gun does look like a Velodog to me.

Tomahawk674
July 27, 2009, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the info & links guys!

The pic from the spanish site seems to be a perfect match, even if the caliber isn't. The other site seems very informative as well, I'll make sure to browse it.

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