Win. Model 70 vs Weatherby Mark V


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TexasEd
July 27, 2009, 07:13 AM
I have a Win. Model 70 and was thinking about selling it to fund a Weatherby Mark V Euromark. Is there any great advantage to one vs the other. The only other caviat is that I am left handed. Both rifles are chambered in 30-06 LH action which both companies don't make any longer. Thanks!

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shaggy430
July 27, 2009, 09:09 AM
The Model 70 is hands down my favorite bolt action. I would keep it.

ArmedBear
July 27, 2009, 09:12 AM
The Model 70 is hands down my favorite bolt action.

There are Model 70s I wouldn't sell unless I was starving, and Model 70s I wouldn't hesitate to sell. Some are the cream of the crop, and some the bottom of the barrel.

Which is it? PF or CRF? Featherweight or a heavier one?

I'd probably still keep it, since you're a leftie. Not many LH guns out there at all.

Can you buy the Weatherby without selling the Winchester? (The LH thing really changes the equation.)

testosterone
July 28, 2009, 08:33 AM
Something from my youth I guess, but there was a time when a Weatherby was considered a fine fiream, a cut above a winchester or remington... gourgeous wood, smooth as glass actions, bottomless blue'ing.

They looked and fealt like fine firearms.

Horsemany
July 28, 2009, 09:53 AM
Something from my youth I guess, but there was a time when a Weatherby was considered a fine fiream, a cut above a winchester or remington... gourgeous wood, smooth as glass actions, bottomless blue'ing.

They looked and fealt like fine firearms.

Same here. I think the Mark V is still a phenomenal rifle. Most people now days are referring to the cheaper Vanguard when they say "Weatherby".

When I was a kid there was nothing lusted after more than Mark V Deluxes and Belgium Browning BAR's. Today a lot of folks would want that BAR to have a tactical bipod, rails, flashlight, laser etc..:barf:

CoRoMo
July 28, 2009, 10:25 AM
There are Model 70s I wouldn't sell unless I was starving, and Model 70s I wouldn't hesitate to sell. Some are the cream of the crop, and some the bottom of the barrel.

+1, one great difference is the consistency of quality, and Weatherby doesn't seem to have that problem.

If your 70 is a fine rifle and a shooter, why ever part with it just for another LH '06.

That being said, I've often thought that a Weatherby Mark V might be as close as I'll ever come to a custom rifle. If I ever own one, I'm sure I'll never own anything better.

Too bad you can't have both.

Arkel23
July 28, 2009, 11:03 AM
Go ahead and go for the Mark V, "Anything a Winchester can do my Weatherby can do better!"

testosterone
July 28, 2009, 03:42 PM
Horsemany,

Absolutely.

I became depressed for some reason when i saw Weatherby's in the turnstyle at Walmart, but that is part of commercial viability of the brand I guess, and puts the brand in reach of a wider audience for sure, but polymer stocks and stainless metal just aren't the same...

When I was 12, my dad brought home a distributor catalog from a kitchen table FFL he worked with and told me to pick a 22 that I wanted.

I ended up getting a Weatherby Mark XXII, to this day it is still my prize firearms in terms of beauty and craftsmanship.

Around the same time, my older brother bought a Mark V in 30-06 that he had saved up and put on layaway at the local dealer for what seemed like an eternity.

Mark V's are the low end of the high end, guns as art IMO. They aren't hand crafted holland and hollands, but they are examples of fine firearms.

Maybe I am overly sentimental.

-T

Arkel23
July 28, 2009, 03:51 PM
I became depressed for some reason when i saw Weatherby's in the turnstyle at Walmart Model 70's are in the cases at Wal-Mart to.

bpl
July 29, 2009, 08:08 PM
Especially as a lefty, I'd try to keep the M70 and save up for the Weatherby.

loneguitar
July 29, 2009, 11:11 PM
Go ahead and get the Weatherby. There is no finer production rifle out there IMO. Check out weatherbynation.com. Roy Weatherby, the owner, post there often. Any problems I have ever heard of he has taken care of personally. You gotta love that kind of dedication to a product.

Phlipper
July 30, 2009, 11:44 AM
I dunno ... I'll have to vote for the Model 70. I have a relatively inexpensive Black Shadow in 7mm Rem Mag and it is the most accurate rifle I have ever owned. Ever. And the action feels as surdy and bank-vault tight as anything I have ever held and worked.

Just this morning confirming a 200 yard zero,we took a few shots at 250 and 300 yards, using a lawn chair and cheap Walmart bipod, running cheap 150gn Federal Power-Shok. At 300 yards I put 2 rounds of a 3 shot group in a 1" circle, and the 'flyer' took me out to about 2". I was totally astonished that I could even shoot that well anymore (Army sniper school was many moons ago :D ).

I will never part with this thing, as it is one of those rare gems with the MOJO. Like a great guitar that just has that magic, even though it didn't cost an arm and a leg. My friend has the same model (Black Shadow) in a 300 Win Mag and he feels the same way about his. Lazer-like accuracy, great feel, solid action.

So I'd have to ask, what can a Weatherby (or a Sako or a Remington 700 Sendero) do that my Black Shadow can't? And if it's just the cachet of owning a Weatherby ... is it worth that much money? My M70 cost me $375 brand new and the Pentax GameSeeker was on sale at $89. And I'll probably ask to be buried with it so I can hunt hogs and whities on the other side :D . I love this thing.

But that's just me. Your mileage may vary. :)

Offfhand
July 30, 2009, 12:48 PM
Depends on which M-70's you're talking about. For real M-70's, meaning those made by the old Winchester before 1964, they are keepers. As for the M-70's made in recent years, I'll go with the Weatherby Mk-V every time. You'll be glad you did too, especially as time goes by.

ArmedBear
July 30, 2009, 12:50 PM
Go ahead and get the Weatherby. There is no finer production rifle out there IMO. Check out weatherbynation.com. Roy Weatherby, the owner, post there often.

Really? He posts to an Internet forum from beyond the grave? Now THAT is cool!

The Mark V is a hell of a rifle, but so are SOME Model 70s... Hence the original query about which Model 70, exactly.:)

My M70 cost me $375 brand new and the Pentax GameSeeker was on sale at $89.

And people used to pick up M1 carbines for $19 in the mail. I.e., that's irrelevant.:)

Offfhand
July 30, 2009, 06:28 PM
Apologies to all for my hasty earlier reply to question. In my rush I failed to notice the left hand factor in the question so my observations were basically meaningless. Of course none of the "real" M-70's I was mentioning were LH. Will try to read questions more carefully next time. I promise.

Phlipper
July 30, 2009, 06:32 PM
And people used to pick up M1 carbines for $19 in the mail. I.e., that's irrelevant.

Not really ... I paid that just two months ago. And it illustrates that cost does not always equal quality.

Again, if someone wants a Weatherby for the cachet of owning one ... have at it. A Weatherby, Sako, Dakota, etc. has that high-end, top-shelf panache. Everyone will want to check it out on the range or in the club's cabin. But if the OP is looking for a solid, accurate, reliable weapon then it might make more sense to keep the M70. Only he can decide what's best for him. The rest of us are just kill'n time. :D

I hope I can post from the other side when I get there like ol' Roy W.. Heaven might be boring without the internet. :p

Horsemany
July 31, 2009, 07:38 AM
Roy's son who now runs the company is the one posting on Weatherby forums.

TexasEd
July 31, 2009, 08:04 PM
Boys..thanks for the info. I have to say that the CRF of the 70 is attractive however I have not had any problems with my push feed Abolt or 700. Keep the info coming. Thanks

ArmedBear
August 1, 2009, 12:15 AM
Not really ... I paid that just two months ago. And it illustrates that cost does not always equal quality.

That was a clearance price because they shut down the factory.:)

You won't find a Model 70 for that now, from the new factory, with the new workmanship.

loneguitar
August 1, 2009, 10:32 PM
Roy's son who now runs the company is the one posting on Weatherby forums

Yeah, Ed not Roy. Just caught that.

gga357
August 1, 2009, 11:55 PM
If it's a CRF W70 then I would keep it.

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