M&P review


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jambo545
July 28, 2009, 12:41 AM
I bought a smith and wesson m&p full size about 6 months ago, and so far I have put over 2500 rounds through it. The shooting consisted of very rough cqb classes and psd refreshors. One day the smith had mud in the magwell, trigger group and completely covered the rear sight due to some very bad situations and it NEVER failed. This IS the most reliable pistol I have ever had and I have fielded a number of sidearms and I highly recomend one.

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sarduy
July 28, 2009, 01:14 AM
Thanks!

pics..?

Runningman
July 28, 2009, 02:09 AM
Ok... that is a good start but some of us want more in a review. You know stuff like what caliber and how is the accuracy what did you think of the trigger pull? So far my M&P 357 has been good except in the trigger pull area. I wished mine had a much kinder trigger pull.

Teppo Oni
July 28, 2009, 03:30 AM
i can picture buying 2500 rds in 6 months 50 boxs of 50rds 15$+ thats like 800$+
i love the feel of the m&p but the trigger is rough
if i didnt have 3 glocks id buy 1
would be a great first pistol

kd7nqb
July 28, 2009, 05:51 PM
the M&P was my first handgun and and still my daily CCW. I am looking at buying a compact as well. They are great guns. I find just as many people who love the trigger as guys who complain about it, I guess its one of those love it or hate it things.

Legasat
July 28, 2009, 08:14 PM
I own 3 M&P's (9mm, 9c & 45). I like them all. All started with rough gritty triggers, but got better with more rounds down the pipe.

If you are looking for a 1911 style trigger, forget it. A 1911 is 1911. However, you can get reasonably close with a trigger job from Burwell or Bowie. I choose not to do that because I live in CA, and that would just be an extra thing I would have to defend in court, if I ever had to use one of them.

Good luck!

The Lone Haranguer
July 28, 2009, 09:33 PM
I shot a rental 9mm full-size and said, "I gotta get one of these!" :) I purchased a 9mm compact shortly thereafter and was very pleased with it other than its slide thickness, which made it less comfortable to carry IWB than a slimmer gun as well as a little "top-heavy." It was 100% perfectly reliable, however. I would still have it, but it was a casualty of the economy. :banghead:

Mags
July 28, 2009, 09:38 PM
Pics are a must for a good review. Target groupings are even better.

gglass
July 29, 2009, 01:57 AM
I own five M&P's and each one has been flawless in its reliability. I could not recommend the M&P line more highly.

M&P Stable:

M&P40
M&P357
M&P9c
M&P9 Pro Series (x2)

Since the OP did not post a pick of an M&P, I will:
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1112/mymp40pc2.jpg

The Wiry Irishman
July 29, 2009, 02:18 AM
Target gropings are even better.

What in the world do you do at the range? :neener:

Coronach
July 29, 2009, 10:52 AM
what did you think of the trigger pull? So far my M&P 357 has been good except in the trigger pull area. I wished mine had a much kinder trigger pull.I HIGHLY recommend Burwell Gunsmithing's trigger job. Inexpensive, and really really really slicks up the pull.

Mike

Coltman 77
July 29, 2009, 11:36 AM
I have a new M&P 9 and just love it. Accurate and the ergos are great.

However, it's had 4 FTE's in the first 600 rds. :(

I emailed S&W customer service, described the problem and their response was:

" You should not be concerned with the FTE's unless the rate dramatically increases. 1 FTE out of 100 is deemed as acceptable with any of our semi-auto pistols."

I'll continue to break it in and if it gets worse I'm sure S&W will make it right.

But I do envy you guys with several thousand faultless rds thru your M&P's.

Quoheleth
July 29, 2009, 11:52 AM
two questions:
One, to send to Burwell, does that have to go through an FFL since he's not the manufacturer? Can he send directly to me, or does it have to go through FFL again?
Two, gglass - how did you get that cool white outline effect? Is it permanent?

Q

The Lone Haranguer
July 29, 2009, 09:04 PM
One, to send to Burwell, does that have to go through an FFL since he's not the manufacturer? Can he send directly to me, or does it have to go through FFL again?

No, you do not have to send it through a FFL, as he himself is a FFL. Yes, he can send it directly back to you, as you are its owner.

tension
July 29, 2009, 11:08 PM
I have two M&P pistols. A full size .40 and a compact 9mm. They are the only guns I have that I like just like they come from the factory. Good triggers, sights and grips on both. I think some people are too picky about the triggers. These are not bullseye guns.

greenlion
July 30, 2009, 12:34 AM
Can one of you "in the know" compare the trigger pull, especially the trigger reset, to a Glock trigger? I don't mean for you to bash Glocks, just to describe the trigger differences. I've never had a chance to fire an M&P, but I like the feel of them in the stores, and they seem to be holding up well.

hoppo
July 30, 2009, 12:46 AM
the feds tested them and had problems with rear frame cracks

Rokman
July 30, 2009, 03:23 PM
My M&P .40 compact has run flawless for a year and a half. I highly recommend.

fastbolt
July 30, 2009, 04:13 PM
Excerpt from earlier press release:
During a thorough evaluation conducted by the DEA Office of Training in Quantico, VA, the M&P pistol was subjected to a wide range of tests to determine its dependability and reliability. The evaluation included a two-day endurance test, with 10,000 rounds fired from each pistol, followed by a measurement of the pistol's accuracy. The agency also conducted testing for environmental exposure as well as a physical impact analysis. In each of the tests, the M&P pistol met or exceeded the DEA requirements.

Link to entire press release:
http://ir.smith-wesson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=90977&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1244350&highlight=

skoro
July 30, 2009, 11:56 PM
Mark me down as another guy who's very impressed by the M&Ps. I have a 9C that's my all-time favorite 9mm handgun. Compact, yet with 12+1 capacity. Points well, very accurate, and absolutely reliable. Just a little too big and a lot too heavy for pocket carry, though.

I had a full size M&P45. It was an excellent pistol in its own right. But it wasn't a 1911, so it eventually got traded for a Colt Government model.

Mikhail Weiss
July 31, 2009, 07:23 PM
greenlion:

Trigger reset comparison, Glock 19 vs. M&P 9mm compact.

Distance to reset: Very, very close. Seems the M&P may be a tiny bit longer, but I've not measured it, and I haven't shot it as much as the Glock, so I can't offer any clearer comments.

Clarity of reset: Glock reset is much more certain, sort of a clicky feel versus the barely-noticed feel of the M&P.

Reset-to-fire distance: none in the Glock. Once the trigger resets, pull, bang, no creep. M&P has a tiny, tiny amount of creep.

Trigger pull: M&P is lighter out of the box than Glock.

Overall impression: I prefer the M&P trigger pull, but the Glock reset. Compared to a Springfield XD, though, both triggers have noticeably shorter resets.

The Lone Haranguer
July 31, 2009, 09:27 PM
Can one of you "in the know" compare the trigger pull, especially the trigger reset, to a Glock trigger?
Much shorter stroke, lighter pull overall, but the reset point is vague and you cannot really feel it.

sophijo
July 31, 2009, 09:44 PM
I emailed S&W customer service, described the problem and their response was:

" You should not be concerned with the FTE's unless the rate dramatically increases. 1 FTE out of 100 is deemed as acceptable with any of our semi-auto pistols."

....anyone else heard of this?

friscolatchi
August 8, 2009, 10:40 AM
Hi Im and owner if the 9c, purchased last year. There were numerous failures to go into battery with the SD stuff, the corbons or ANY hollow pointed ammo. The FMJ were no problem but at times with the FMJ's the slide was lazy going into battery. Smith fixed the problem and they stated that they replaced the barrel. I'm not sure about that but I did get an M&P action job and the ramp was polished. Previously to that there was uneven wear on the ramp. I then placed over 200 rounds through it and there was NO problem with ANY of the ammo. Federal, remmington, corbon, et al. Throught my internet research and discussion with some simth's there are some auto's that prefer certain ammo, shoot it reliably and accurately.

I still have the gun and will relegate it to winter carry. I currently carry the M&P 340. I like the versitility of being able to use 38 38+p and 357 as well as the lightweight for pocket carry. I also feel safer against the potential for AD's as the trigger pull is much heavier. It carries well in the pocket or in a OWB/IWB.

LoneStarWings
August 8, 2009, 04:37 PM
I like my M&P's. Never had a failure with either, 3500+ rounds through the semi and 80 through the revolver (just got it yesterday!)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c55/LoneStarWings/mpguns.jpg

Now I just need to save up for a .40 compact, .40 pro (if they ever make one), r8 revolver, and m&p15 AR.

vagabond1
August 8, 2009, 05:54 PM
I love my 9mm M&P. I recently did the trigger job on mine and it is very smooth, with short reset.

jim
Hillco Gunsmith
Texas

Publius1688
August 8, 2009, 06:57 PM
I own two m+p's, a 9mm compact, and a full size .45.
I like them both, no complaints (although I'd trade the 9mm for an interesting mil surp rifle). Especially, I like how easy they are to take down and clean.

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