[Art Eatman]

I got an email about this list from a local gun club guy; he had phoned the NRA and it's real.

Sarah Brady's gang is claiming 10,000 signatures on their anti-gun list, with a target of 25,000.

So, the NRA is looking for pro-gun folks to sign up and see how many are on our side.

The URL is https://www.nrahq.org/goodguys.asp if you're interested.

:), Art

[Shooter 2.5]

Thanks. I signed up yesterday.

It seemed only right to reward the NRA with a simple signature especially since they did so well yesterday in Wisconsin. The NRA really had the lib socialists screaming.

[Ukraine Train]

I got that email and sent the link along to all my pro-gun friends. This is the text body:

Unless you stand up and be counted, the Brady Campaign and the New York Times will get away with comparing honest gun owners like you to vile criminals like the Washington, D.C. snipers. Please click here to add your name to the NRA "Good Guys" list today.

Sarah Brady and the New York Times have mounted a nationwide campaign to defeat S. 659 - the bill that would block junk lawsuits against the firearms industry.

And you won't believe how they're doing it.

You probably know that the NRA Institute for Legislative Action publishes a fact sheet containing the names of celebrities, activists, and organizations openly opposing your Second Amendment rights.

It's a service we provide to you and every other gun owner across America. You've told us you don't want to put money in the pockets of the people who are trying to abolish the Second Amendment. You've told us you don't want to buy their CDs, go to their movies, or support their careers.

And that's your right. The Constitution guarantees our freedom to associate with whomever we choose, and to speak out against those who would destroy our rights.

But that's not how the radicals over at the Brady Campaign see it. To them, it's a "blacklist." And they've launched a new fundraising web site www.stopthenra.com where they attack NRA members simply for exercising our right of free speech.

They've created a database of anti-gun activists - dubbed an "honor roll" - and claim to have signed up more than 10,000 people, with an ultimate goal of 25,000 to join their cause.

That anti-gun "honor roll" is getting a lot of coverage from the New York Times and the rest of the anti-Second Amendment media. In fact, NRA members are essentially being accused of McCarthyism simply for exercising our First Amendment rights!

I think that's outrageous. That's why I need you to add your name to the NRA "Good Guys" list today. It's a list of law-abiding Americans who support the Freedom of Speech and the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. www.nrahq.org/goodguys.asp

Please click here to add your name to the NRA "Good Guys" list. You don't have to be an NRA member to join the list. You just have to believe in freedom.

Sincerely,

Wayne LaPierre

[Hazwaste]

So to add my name to the list I have to join the NRA? I guess I misunderstood. I thought it was just a list of people who are pro-rights.

[garrettwc]

So to add my name to the list I have to join the NRA? I guess I misunderstood. I thought it was just a list of people who are pro-rights.

No, just fill out the top section and click the "add me to the list" link. You don't have to fill out the membership info, it's just on there for convenience in case you want to.

Thanks for the link Art. I added my name to the list.

[Hazwaste]

OK, my mistake. Thanks.

[Dorian]

How can we tell how many names the list has gathered so far?

edited to add: Also, I copied and pasted this thread at sigforum.com.

Please don't sue me for nor giving credit for the thread to you Art :)

[MaterDei]

I'm on the list now, thanks.

[Art Eatman]

:) No credit needed...I wasn't the first learn of this, anyhoo.

Art

[Ryder]

Many pro-gun people are signing up for those anti lists to try and get inside info on what they are doing. :banghead:

I think that's really stupid. I say let them die from inattention. 10,000? What's that? 200 from each state? A real groundswell there. :neener:

[SC_shooter]

While I'm sure this makes everyone feel warm and fuzzy, it's a waste of time and energy.

Paul

[Bigjake]

so where can we see the complete "goodguys" list
????

[Brian Dale]

Sarah Fraidy: "Look, here's our list of people we've signed up - it runs hundreds of pages" {drops it on table - Plop!}

VROOOmmmm -- - Wayne LaPierre shows up, driving a forklift --

"And here's our list - all of our NRA Members" { - drops it on table: CRASH !!! table smashed to bits}.

"Here's the additional list of folks who have come to our site to show their support."

{In come six burly guys carrying boxes}

I like the image. I'm on both of Wayne's lists.
Edited to add: NRA "Members" and "Good Guys;" not "enemies."

[Mark Tyson]

Now I see! I was wondering why all the stories about the NRA's list came out just now, when the list has been around for years. It's because the antis, led by Brady and the Mommas started this web site and began making so much hoopla about it. These reporters are all their getting their bread buttered on the anti side ...

[Sven]

it's a waste of time and energy.

Took me all of 5 seconds to fill out the form. How long did it take you to post the comment above?

:uhoh:

[Silver Bullet]

it's a waste of time and energy.
17 seconds, 6 calories. How will I ever get them back ?

[FPrice]

I am on the list now myself.

[Peetmoss]

Now on the list and will enlist more tommorow:D

[Moparmike]

Signed it. Considering joining too.

Thanks for the link Art.

[Russ]

Thanks for the link Art. Hopefully this will get huge and dwarf Brady's list.

[280PLUS]

one small bite on a snickers bar oughta do it, for the calories anyhow,,,i guess we're out the (you took 17 seconds?!?)

:neener:

done also, but i'm already member #********* for the next 5 years or so,,,

;)

[Silver Bullet]

one small bite on a snickers bar oughta do it
Maybe Friday I can just lick the inside of a few discarded candy bar wrappers. :)

[PATH]

I'm an NRA life member and just put the name on the list.

[Yanus]

I am also a NRA Life Member and I put my name on the list.

Sarah Brady's "list" should be called what it is, a fecal roster! :evil:

Yanus

[MikeK]

Well I'm on the list, but as someone else asked - how do you view it?

Anything to support RKBA in even a small way is not a waste of time - IMO.

[Art Eatman]

I emailed NRA and asked about viewing the number of signups...

Art

[braindead0]

You should see the email the MMM ninnies are spamming with, has a link back to a bulk mailer on their site so they can harvest these Idiots email addresses.... also has inline links that attempt to set some cookies (haven't analized what exactly).

Heres the text (sans worm like links/java/etc ;-)

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From: "Donna Dees Thomases" <donna@millionmommarch.org>

Dear Million Mom March friend,

I bring you nothing but good news. And I hope you can help by forwarding this e-mail along to your friends, family and co-workers.

Two weeks ago we launched www.nrablacklist.com. Here is what we have accomplished and as a supporter of the Million Mom March we need your help and we need it today.

1) 25,000 Americans have joined the NRA's blacklist in just two weeks. Our initial goal was 10,000. Then we asked for 25,000; today we are raising that goal to 50,000. The NRA may have the backing of the gun industry, but we have the people. All we need to do is get people who care to speak up and join the blacklist. We will deliver our petition to Congress and insist that we be heard. That's how it works.

2) The media buzz is growing. News articles and columns are appearing across the country. Wayne LaPierre, the Executive Director of the NRA, not only admitted that the NRA has a blacklist but said on the "Today" Show what he hoped to achieve with the list: "Our members don't want to buy their songs, don't want to go to their movies and don't want to support their careers." What arrogance. Is he for real? We wonder: How does he intend to punish the doctors, children, mayors, seniors and others who are on the list?

3) Our advertising campaign is expanding. Today, we have a full page ad in the New York Times and yesterday we were in Variety, urging readers to sign up for the NRA's blacklist. The ads are working and helping us to raise money and visibility.

We will not stop until we stop the NRA. It is out of control.

The NRA wants to put illegal assault weapons back on the street.

The NRA wants immunity for reckless gun dealers like Bull's Eye Shooter Supply, which armed the DC snipers and sold guns used in 52 other crimes.

Right now, we need to send the NRA a message and have thousands more join its blacklist. Please click here to share this e-mail with your friends and family and coworkers. The 60 seconds it will take will make a huge difference.

All the best,

Donna Dees Thomases

nrablacklist.com

[Daniel T]

I shouldn't read that kind of crap. It gets my blood pressure up like nothing else in the world.

[ComputerFlake]

I wonder how many people padded the bad guys list with email addresses from Hotmail and Yahoo mail? None of this will amount to anything worthwhile but it's fun to pit your beliefs against those in Hollywierd. ;)

(BTW, I wonder how many of the celebs that signed up have ARMED BODY GUARDS or own guns themselves? Hipocrits, all of them.)

[Carlos Cabeza]

I'm the NRA ! Backup Million Moron Mommies.......................We'll take it from here !

[AUTIGER04]

Signed up myself, brother and nephew.:D

[PeteyPete]

Done...

Just signed me and my GF up.

[Sylvilagus Aquaticus]

That's odd, I'm the NRA and I don't feel out of control.

Thanks for the link, Art.

Regards,
Rabbit.

[alan]

Re lists, good, bad and or indifferent, recently came upon the following. I believe it was a piece in yesterday's or the previous day's, www.wnd.com.

The piece was headlined, more or less as follows. Celebs lining up to get on NRA's Black List. Dustin Hoffman in particular, was mentioned prominently in the article that followed. Seems he was upset at being "overlooked", as was Boston Globe collomnist Ellen Goodman

If and when their presence on this so-called Black List, a list that has a long grey beard, starts to hit them in their pocketbooks, the writer wonders as to how anxious these clods will then be about getting DELISTED.

For whatever it might be worth, Director/Actor, and sometime anti-gun speaker/activist Clint Eastwood is supposedly concerned at possible loss of audience for his latest fim Mystic River, which stars one of today's celebrity big mouths, Sean Penn. Talk radio host Michael Savage, author of Savage Nation recently interviewed Eastwood, who got his start in shoot'em up Spagetti Westerns, and later starred in the Dirty Harry films.

[ninjaj448]

About the Blacklist thing. The Brady bunch reports 'hits' to media. The media spins the 'hits' as sign ups.

[alan]

ninja448 wrote:

"About the Blacklist thing. The Brady bunch reports 'hits' to media. The media spins the 'hits' as sign ups".

The English translation of the foregoing might be the following. One lies, while the other swears to it.

[Moparmike]

The English translation of the foregoing might be the following. One lies, while the other swears to it.I am still waiting for my doubleplusgood television set to arrive...;)

[johnr]

Done.

[c_yeager]

The funny thing is that this contrived "list" that the Brady Bunch have come up with is quite simply dwarfed by the size of actual PAYING NRA memebers. I think it says a lot that our side of the issue has so many people not only willing to sign up to a list but to actually put their hard earned money into the fight. I would LOVE to know how many financial contributers these people have. Methinks that they have a very few individuals and organizations that dump money into this. That alone should show the elitist nature of these groups.

[marineman227]

I bet after it's all said and done some dude will go and shoot the ----- that started that NRA blacklist thing :D i just kind of got a little chuckle out of that thought. by the way i'm on the list... i'm only 17 but i'm pro NRA, pro Guns and pro blowing ???? up

[ninjaj448]

marineman227:

You really need to get back from the shooting idea; for any literal reason.

In fact, judging by your post, I'm going to accuse you of being a troll from an ASD outfit. If you were legit, you'd know that nobody serious about firearms is going 'shoot the -----...' over a list. You get your money from the 'Tides' or 'Tsuami Fund'?

[Nightfall]

'marineman' (why do you call yourself a Marine when your profile says you're in the Army? :scrutiny: ), I suggest you take a second to read over The High Road, and get a feel for the general attitude here. 'shooting the -----' over an exercise of free speech and 'blowing ???? up' isn't necessarily the type of atmosphere prevalent on this forum. THR is supportive of the entire Bill of Rights, and murdering somebody over a written expression of an opinion doesn't exactly follow along those lines.

That said, welcome to THR.

[Moparmike]

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[Mauserlady]

Either I'm being a complete spaz and can't find it or the NRA has moved the original "black list"... Can someone help me out, I need to check a few against the list...

This is the link I have

http://www.nraila.com/FactSheets.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=15

and it keeps coming up 404 error, has been moved, click here, then when I do I don't find anything (or am being a spaz and missing it.)

[Bigjake]

LMAO. thats pretty good mike. soo..... is the NRA gona show us a list of total sigs or not??

[Art Eatman]

I've had no response to my query of the NRA, so far...

Art

[alan]

Art:

You aren't holding your breath while waiting, are you?

[Rob Pincus]

I do find it odd that the NRA doesn't immediatelty send you to a page with all the names on it...

If the list is so damn important and we should be proud to be on it...where's the list??

Typical NRA.

[alan]

Rob:

This is perhaps another questionable aspect of our NRA.

[Sven]

Maybe they are gathering emails for their next promotion, some belt buckle or somethin.

[hansolo]

I know the NRA isn't perfect, but I'll be a member for life; I signed the list.

MoparMike: thanks for the giggles! Trolls beware:evil:

[Kim du Toit]

I signed the list.

I just hope I don't start getting a bunch of begging letters from the NRA now.

[MoreTEN]

The NRAblacklisting list(uhhh...) is to be found, but were is NRAs own pro-gunlist? I cant find it....

I found some on the NRA-ILA(..?) site, some few pictures of Heston & some few other trigger happy folks, but were is this list...?

The thing I dont understand, is why you without any critic back-up the NRA, when they only will feed more guns into the hands of the criminal???

[geekWithA.45]

moreTEN:

The thing I dont understand, is why you without any critic back-up the NRA, when they only will feed more guns into the hands of the criminal???

{ad-hominem sarcasm deleted, such a pity, it was rather witty and quite good!}

If you truly believe that the NRA arms criminals, then you haven't heard a word anyone on this board has said.

The simple truth is this: most Americans understand that so long as honest people remain armed, it will be easier for evil men to obtain arms.

Most of us gladly accept this as the other side of the coin, and stand prepareed to deal with the evil men and their aftermath.

Why do we accept this?

Because what must be done to prevent evil men from obtaining arms is ultimately futile, because the cost of honest men not having arms is catastrophic, because we know that evil is innevitable, and we truly, deeply understand that an unarmed man is ultimately a vassal subject, a thrall to someone else.

We may squabble among ourselves, but we will never bow before any man who claims to be our king, and we would rightly shoot such a man dead, on the spot, to public applause.

On that we are nearly unanimous.

We're Americans. We can be killed, singly and in groups, and if you happen to have a couple of thousand nukes handy, we can even be utterly destroyed.

But we will never be conquered, and bow before no one other than ourselves and God.

Never.

Our rifles see to that, and the NRA sees to our rifles.


And finally, moreTEN, would you PLEASE LEARN HOW TO USE THE BLEEPING QUOTE TAG?

Thank you.

[Nightfall]

The thing I dont understand, is why you without any critic back-up the NRA, when they only will feed more guns into the hands of the criminal???
Care to explain this, and back it up with some facts, rather than making blanket statements that condemn an organization of over 4 million honest, law-abiding Americans?

[alan]

MoreTEN:

I noticed your post. The following is excerpted therefrom:

"The thing I dont understand, is why you without any critic back-up the NRA, when they only will feed more guns into the hands of the criminal???"

Please provide the source for the above comment, if it came from someone else, or did you originate it? If that be the case, that you originated this particularly strange comment, what might the source material for it possibly be?

You see, I'm American, and while I did once upon a time, work in Western Europe, (England, Holland and West Germany) it was quite a while ago, and have also visited some other countries, I've lived most of my life in the U.S. I never have quite escaped being curious about the vast amount of "baggage", misinformation if you will, that some Europeans seem to have acquired regarding the U.S.

[MoreTEN]

Dear GeekWithA.45:

I do it may way, okay...I quote as I BLEEPING wish, okay..

But about my question..

By giving more guns to the public, more will get killed. Its very simple...

As I understand there is a problem with criminals buying guns out of gunstores, and as I understand the "Brady Bunch", this is a law that could hinder that and keep more dangerouse weapons of the street...I dont see the problem in that...

[alan]

More TEN:

Re your understandings, please see below:

"As I understand there is a problem with criminals buying guns out of gunstores, and as I understand the "Brady Bunch", this is a law that could hinder that and keep more dangerouse weapons of the street...I dont see the problem in that...",, your "understandings " are incorrect.

As to The Brady Law, the Federal Bureau of Invrestigation, possibly what one would refer to as the American's National Police, their methods and actual actions violate the requirements of this legislation.

The legislation, Brady, stipulated that except for refusals, no records, other than the "unique number" assigned to approved purchases, were to be maintained. The default setting, you know what the default in a computer progrsam is don't you, of the computer program set up for or by the FBI was RETAIN RECORDS, this being a clear violation of the law. By the way, the FBI has admitted this. It is this sort of thing that, in the minds of millions of law abiding Americans, raises the most serious sort of question concerning Brady in particular, and "gun control" proposals in general.

As I asked earlier, where do these understandings, perhaps misunderestandings of yours come from? Would you care to clarify?

[MoreTEN]

These are things Ive read, just basic things. You can find info about it all over the web, and in many many newspapers and on the NRA site.

[Betty]

We'll do without the BLEEPIN' this and BLEEPIN' that.

These are things Ive read, just basic things. You can find info about it all over the web, and in many many newspapers and on the NRA site.

You'll gain credibility if you give factual evidence, quotes from sources and links.

[alan]

MoreTEN:

If the following is supposed to be accepted as an answer to questions put, "These are things Ive read, just basic things. You can find info about it all over the web, and in many many newspapers and on the NRA site", it doesn't come even close to passing muster. Of course, nobody can compel you to offer a substantive response, isn't freedom of speech a wonderful thing? Other freedoms/rights are wonderful too.

As to the validity of what one might read/see on the Internet, as you are likely aware, anyone with access to a computer, can post anything they want to, and such posts can be, and are, good, bad, or indifferent. The fact that something has appeared "on the Internet", or "in the newspaper", or "on the television news", for that matter, lends no validity to it whatever.

I will not presume to address the nature or quality of newspapers in your country, since I have yet to read one. In-so-far as anything having to do with firearms, and the coverage given to it by American newspapers or television news in this country, the meowing of your cat would likely make more sense, as well as being closer to the facts of the matter. If you get the chance to read Arrogance, written by Bernard Goldberg, take it. Mr. Goldberg spent 28 years with CBS News. He also wrote an earlier work, the title of which is Bias. In Arrogance, you might pay particular attention to the section starting at page 185, entitled And now the Rest of the story is ..., though the entirety of the book is rather interesting

[Nightfall]

By giving more guns to the public, more will get killed. Its very simple...
How do you figure? This leap of logic indicates that for any increase in violent crime, there will be a corresponding increase in firearms in this nation. In fact though, one can easily find examples (http://www.rkba.org/research/cramer/shall-issue.html#c7) of thousands of people in a single state carrying more guns via conceal weapons permits, with a concurrent drop in violent crime. One can also see reports indicating an overall rise in the numbers of firearms in the US, but violent crime has not steadily risen in step with this increase. Some years it has fallen. Your statement assumes that guns inevitably cause death, which is a fallacy.

[AZTOY]

I signed the list and renewed.


:neener:

[grampster]

THR denizens:

MoreTEN has posted in other threads. His comments seem to be uniformly uninformed. His opinion, which he is welcome to, and is more than welcome to be posted here, is tainted, obviously, by a lack of knowledge of America. Five bucks says he/she has never set foot in our country. Just as I would never criticize or comment about those things Norwegian that I did not have first hand, personal knowledge of, so should he attempt to ask questions and become grounded in truth before he puts his foot in his mouth, as he has done. THR will be a good place for him to gain that knowledge. Hopefully we can be patient with him and he can be open minded enough to actually learn something about us, other than the left wing propaganda that he has been inculcated with so far.

MoreTEN: Spend a few weeks checking THR out, all of its varying threads and subjects. Educate yourself a bit. So far you have not done yourself much good with your rather incorrect perceptions and lack of knowledge of things American. The beauty of our country is that we tend to tolerate each other even though we don't agree, even when some of us fall into the category of "sheeple" or "blissninny". There is truth and then there is fantasy. Most of us here at THR are grounded in truth.


:) grampster