Czech 8mm Mauser?


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Col. Plink
July 28, 2009, 10:02 AM
Hey y'all!

A friend of mine has one of these (a VZ; he's been a little short on specifics) he's offered to sell for $150, which is $50 less than the pre-BHO price he paid. Trouble is I don't know much about them and have not had a chance to inspect it for markings, etc. He says the condition is very good or better (I know how well he takes care of his guns and know he wouldn't buy something that wasn't in very good operational condition).

Firstly, I'm not interested in taking on another caliber that will be hard to find and even harder to afford. I know I've seen 8mm Mauser in different places, but don't know much about it's general availability and price (versus, say, 30'06?). I know it's possible to spend a lot on spicy hunting ammo, I'm just looking for relilable/reliably accurate ammo for the best price (since this is a European chambering, are there some good deals on Euro ammo [e.g. Prvi Partizan, etc.]?).

Also, what can be expected in the way of cycling and accuracy? It's bolt action but I don't know about it's reputation. I do know the Mauser actions is very well regarded in general, but how about the Czech versions?

Wish I could give y'all more to go on, obviously I'm short on some info myself. Any general information about the reputation would help, as well as any specifics pertaining to this particular animal.

Thanks in advance!

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Olympus
July 28, 2009, 10:16 AM
Do a search on here. VZ 24s are excellent rifles. Considered by some to be one of the very best.

NCsmitty
July 28, 2009, 10:21 AM
Chances are it is a VZ-24. Here's a link to a little info.
If in good shape, it's a desirable rifle and action, and often used in custom builds.
I have one myself.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/brnovz24/index.asp


NCsmitty

highorder
July 28, 2009, 10:23 AM
AIM surplus and others currently have decent prices on milsurp 8x57 ammunition.

It is corrosive; clean accordingly.

Storm
July 28, 2009, 10:37 AM
I have a VZ 24. I recently bought it for $225 and considered that to be a good price. This one is in nice shape with a good bore. Rifling can be an issue as with any milsurp. A lack of bluing up around the muzzle area is very common. The VZ 24 is becoming less common as the action is very desirable for sporters. Many consider the VZ 24 to be the best of the Mausers right up there with the German and Swedish rifles.

If the rifle is in acceptable condition I would jump on it for $150.


http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2502/vz24.jpg

Killermonkey21
July 28, 2009, 11:32 AM
I paid $250 for my VZ-24 and about 400 rds of Turkish (or maybe Egyptian) surplus ammo. The stock was pretty beat up but the bore was shiny and the action is smooth and reliable. You can use strip clips with it as well.

I'd say jump on it if its in good shape. Mauser action is world renown for a reason.

ArmedBear
July 28, 2009, 11:33 AM
What's the difference between a Vz24 and 24/47?

SaxonPig
July 28, 2009, 11:46 AM
Not an expert but I think 24/47s were 24s that were reconditioned after the war hence the dual dates.

I agree the Czech 98s are excellent and 8x57 ammo is one of the few calibers still available as surplus at good prices. If you would enjoy have a MilSurp rifle the 98 is a top choice and the VZs are great.

ForneyRider
July 28, 2009, 11:55 AM
My brother picked up a VZ24 actioned sporter Mauser98 with Douglas 308 Win barrel, walnut stock and timney trigger for 450$. Shoots great.

Col. Plink
July 28, 2009, 11:59 AM
I'm seeing VZ24's and VZ98's referenced here. Not the same I assume...

NCsmitty
July 28, 2009, 12:25 PM
What's the difference between a Vz24 and 24/47?

The VZ-24 is a standard length M98 action, where the 24/47 is an intermediate length action, the same as a M48.


NCsmitty

ArmedBear
July 28, 2009, 12:27 PM
Ah.

THAT'S why they're not so desirable for customs.

Auction block time for it, then.:)

Storm
July 28, 2009, 12:36 PM
Yup, the VZ 24 and 24/47 are two different guns. The 24/47 is no VZ, but still not a bad rifle.

ArmedBear
July 28, 2009, 12:38 PM
Even at today's depressed prices, the real estate it takes is worth more than the rifle.

I think I'll sell it.:)

jimmyraythomason
July 28, 2009, 12:59 PM
FWIW, there is also a VZ-47 which is standard M98 length. It was commercially produced in Brno,Czech. An identifying "feature" of the VZ-47 is the lack of a guide rib on the bolt body.

highorder
July 28, 2009, 01:21 PM
The Yugo 24/47 intermediate action may be "less desirable", but it makes a great .257 Roberts. :)

ArmedBear
July 28, 2009, 01:33 PM
...or a 7x57AI...

But neither caliber is really on my list.

That said, does a 57mm Mauser case have the same base as a .30-06? I mean, I could save $4.99 if it does...:D

highorder
July 28, 2009, 01:40 PM
That said, does a 57mm Mauser case have the same base as a .30-06?


It sure does, but it's more correct to say that the .30-06 used the Mauser .473 boltface. ;)

ArmedBear
July 28, 2009, 01:41 PM
Stole. But that's neither here nor there at this point.:)

Hud
July 28, 2009, 05:03 PM
There are some Yugo refurbed Czech VZ24's floating around out there, but stamped 24/52C retaining their std. length actions.

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