Beretta 92FS more accurate?


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baryon
July 29, 2009, 12:53 AM
Hi,

Is the Beretta 92FS more accurate than other tilting barrel designs due to the fact that barrel moves back in a straight line? My question is more about the accuracy due to design rather than quality control during manfacturing.

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David E
July 29, 2009, 01:30 AM
No.

The barrel is totally unsupported at the muzzle. It has been described "whipping about like a garden hose." It's not THAT bad........but all the accuracy improvements involve tightening at the muzzle.

Dr_2_B
July 29, 2009, 01:38 AM
Not to my knowledge.

Runningman
July 29, 2009, 01:41 AM
Not in my experience. I was not to impressed with the accuracy of my long gone 92F.

NG VI
July 29, 2009, 05:12 AM
I've only used one a few times, didn't seem more accurate than any of my other pistols, it actually seemed less accurate than my Glock 27, by kind of a lot.

CWL
July 29, 2009, 02:31 PM
At typical pistol ranges, most modern pistol designs are going to be more accurate than the shooter using it.

You can buy the most accurate handgun in the world and still not be able to hit your target if you don't practice with it.

greenlion
July 29, 2009, 04:06 PM
They are plenty accurate enough for duty use. There are also many gunsmiths who can work several magic tricks to make them more accurate. If it won't outshoot a Glock 27, you need to get another Beretta, cause something is askew.

LancerMW
July 29, 2009, 05:17 PM
my G27 is quite accurate

stevemis
July 29, 2009, 06:14 PM
I remember reading an article about some government sharpshooting team and their group of pistolsmiths having a hard time extracting accuracy from the 92. I think they were able to make a fair amount of progress; unfortunately I don't recall if the article had much by way of technical information.

SwampWolf
July 29, 2009, 07:32 PM
Bullseye shooters have made great strides in making the 92 more accurate; doing much of the same things that enhanced the accuracy of 1911s "back in the day."

AgentAdam
July 29, 2009, 08:05 PM
My 92 steel-I and 90-Two are very accurate but they are mostly built for reliability with the unsupported end of the barrel and open slide.

If you want to get some money into them (1000-2000) like a target 1911 you can get in line for one of the Beretta 92 Stock or Combats with a barrel bushing installed between the slide and barrel. I think Beretta will sell just the upper slide assembly but there is a waiting list.

Barsto also sells a barrel with a bushing but i don't know if they work with regular 92FS slides.

Raptorq7r13
July 29, 2009, 08:42 PM
Sure, there are a number of guns more accurate than the 92, but it depends on what your doing. Concealed carry/ home defense gun? Works great! Bullseye shooting competition? Not so much.

It's reliability and combat optimized not accuracy optimized. That being said, it's plenty accurate for the casual or defensive shooter like myself.

kilo729
July 29, 2009, 09:13 PM
Concealed carry a 92fs? My hats off to anyone who chooses to CC it, especially in warm weather.

I'm not knocking the ol' brick, I learned how to shoot with one, but man they are monsters.

Shipwreck
September 3, 2009, 05:31 PM
oncealed carry a 92fs? My hats off to anyone who chooses to CC it, especially in warm weather.

I'm not knocking the ol' brick, I learned how to shoot with one, but man they are monsters.

My 92FS is my current concealed carry gun. I use an IWB Comptac holster - the Pro Undercover model, if I remember right.

The grip wasn't really any longer than the 45 cal HK USPc I carried for a while.

I was gonna start carrying the 92 after summer was over. But I started a few weeks ago, and I like it. It would be too big on an OWB holster in summer. But IWB is fine, even with just a t shirt

nathan
September 3, 2009, 06:15 PM
I have a Hungarian hi power clone and its accurate. Barrel lockup front and muzzle area are tight. Wonder if 92 vs Hi power shoot side by side, which will be more accurate at 25 yds ?

wditto
September 3, 2009, 06:53 PM
I guess they let a few accurate ones slip by accidently, because all of mine are VERY accurate, as well as most of my Buds are - now, there are a LOT of folks out there that don't get good results with ANY pistol, but it's usually them and not the pistol....I've proven at least a dozen times that it was NOT the pistol.....

9mmepiphany
September 4, 2009, 12:15 AM
My 92FS is my current concealed carry gun. I use an IWB Comptac holster - the Pro Undercover model, if I remember right.

The grip wasn't really any longer than the 45 cal HK USPc I carried for a while

i've carried my Beretta 96 in an OWB Alessi ACP for quite a while when i used it as my duty gun...it's actually easier than a Sig 226.

much of CCW has to do with holster and belt selection

9mmepiphany
September 4, 2009, 12:18 AM
i don't think the Beretta is any more accurate than a stock tilting barrel system, but in my hands it does feel smoother

my 96 has been my most accurate .40, when compared to a Glock 22, Sig 229 and 226

EOD Guy in VA
September 4, 2009, 12:52 AM
I shoot very accurately with my 92FS, but I think that it's more due to the ergonomics and the way it handles recoil than any inherent accuracy in the pistol.

leadcounsel
September 4, 2009, 01:09 AM
The Beretta 92FS was my first pistol. I was a novice, but I felt it was horrible with accuracy. I kept it for a long time, reluctant to sell/trade it for sentimental reasons. I did trade it away and glad it is gone.

Yes, the military uses the 92FS (designated the M9) as the standard sidearm. I have no idea why other than politics (we wanted a base in Italy, they were awarded a contract). It's probably one of the last guns I would pick. I would pick Glock, CZ, Sig, Ruger, and a few others first. Oh well. I didn't like carrying one in Iraq. I would have preferred something else. Big, heavy, fouls easily, etc. Oh well again.

The M9 is so wildly popular with gun guys that Special Forces and Special Operations quickly dump the M9 in favor of Glocks, Sigs, HKs, etc. at their first opportunity.

Back to the original question, again, even after years of shooting lots of guns my 92FS was just not an accurate pistol. I'll never own another.

Airburst
September 4, 2009, 01:45 AM
I have a old 92F and it shoots great. My 96D was also accurate.

faizi
September 4, 2009, 02:21 AM
Is 92FS more accurate than CZ-75B?

Steve C
September 4, 2009, 02:33 AM
Bullseye shooting competition? Not so much.

It should be noted that the pistol shooting championship at Camp Perry was won several years ago for the first time with the Beretta 92 by one of the Military teams. Don't know what the current or more recent champions are shooting but it can be made as accurate as any other specialized target pistol for Bullseye competition.

Morgo
September 4, 2009, 05:24 AM
I've found this Beretta to be quite accurate at 50 yards :)

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leadcounsel
September 4, 2009, 05:48 AM
75B is worlds more accurate than the 92FS. No contest. It's due to the supported barrel and the slide on the inside of the CZ75 frame.

Beagle-zebub
September 4, 2009, 08:22 AM
And what about the Walther P38 from which the Beretta 92 is descended? Does it have this same wobbly-barrel problem, and if not, why not?

NoleMan
September 4, 2009, 08:47 AM
Not sure about the barrel design, but the 92 my buddy owns shoots lights out.

Jim Watson
September 4, 2009, 09:01 AM
In a sample of one, the only Beretta 92 I ever tried hard with was very accurate.
As said, they can be accurized to equal or beat the 1911 in Service Pistol matches.

I never heard anything particular about the accuracy of the P38, though.
Note that the Walther 88 with Browning tilt-lock was the one that got the rave reviews for accuracy, not the P38, P1 or P5.

schmeky
September 4, 2009, 10:37 AM
I agree with leadcounsel. I had a 92 years ago. Very reliable, but for a 9mm, it was pretty big with a "bricky" grip. It was never a tack driver, but then it wasn't designed for that.

The CZ-75, in my experience and in the right hands, is more inherently accurate than the 92. CZ's design "pinches" the barrel at the end of the muzzle, so as the barrel/bushing wears, it compensates to a degree.

As pointed out, the 92's muzzle is basically unsupported.

Sheepdog1968
September 4, 2009, 04:17 PM
At typical pistol ranges, most modern pistol designs are going to be more accurate than the shooter using it.

You can buy the most accurate handgun in the world and still not be able to hit your target if you don't practice with it.
+1 on this post. If you can shoot four inch groups at seven yards, then you have what you need for self defense. In a real situation, I doubt you will be able to do that.

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