So mad, got fooled by a fake victim disarmament zone


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Aikibiker
October 25, 2003, 05:04 AM
Long story follows.

Fellow Highroader 13XX's girlfriend was taken to the hospital today. It isn't really my place to give out the details, but if you guys could remember them in your prayers I am sure it would be appreciated.

13xx wasn't able to get off work until around 12:30 tonight and I went with him to the hospital while he visited his GF. After 11 or so you have to enter the hospital through the ER. When we got to the entrance we were greeted by a sign that read "Police Substation no weapons allowed" in big red letters. No weapons signs have no legal standing for CCW holders in FL but police stations are a big nono. So we made a trek out to the car to drop off our various toys.

One of the hospital security guards was kind enough to guide us through the maze of corridors to the right set of elevators to get to the ICU and on the way I chatted him up on the substation aspect of the hospital. According to our guide there is no substation and he has no idea why the sign is even up there. I am figuring it is some anti hospital administrators way of banning CCW from their "hallowed" halls.

This really irks me as an ER can be a dangerous place, lots of sick and or mentally disturbed people plus a lot of stress all crammed together can be a bad combination. The worst part is I just hate being told a lie, especially when it is being used to deprive me of my constitutional rights.

On the upside I did learn a little about the dangers of potassium intoxication while I tried unsuccessfully to flirt with one of the night duty nurses.

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WonderNine
October 25, 2003, 06:15 AM
Do like the pros do:

be too busy (scanning for threats/flirting with nurses/daydreaming) to notice stupid signs.

Unless you're driving a motor vehicle of course. :)

glocksman
October 25, 2003, 07:53 AM
Call the local PD and ask if they have a substation in the hospital.
If they say 'no', then ask why does the hospital have a sign.

mtnbkr
October 25, 2003, 10:51 AM
I noticed anti-ccw signs at the hospital when my daughter was born recently. I missed them going in (hey, wife was in active labor!), but when I saw them later on, I complied.

Besides, in this hospital, you don't get much more secure than the maternity ward. You have to be buzzed in and the babies themselves have radio tags that set off alarms and lock the hospital down if you take them past a certain point.

Chris

Mike Irwin
October 25, 2003, 01:13 PM
I visited MTNBKR in the hospital while his wife was in labor as I was the designated "alternate dog walker" and the prime designate was AWOL. :)

I saw those signs, curled my upper lip, said a few very rude words, and walked on in. :)

Hazwaste
October 25, 2003, 06:48 PM
Seems that even if there were a substation in the hospital, as long as you didn't enter the substation's door you would not be in the substation. Or is there a distance limit like w/ the federal "firearm free school zones"?

Aikibiker
October 25, 2003, 07:30 PM
Hazwaste,

There is no distance limit, we can even have our guns in a school parking lot. IE: if you have to go to a parent teacher conference you can leave your gun locked in the car.

The way the sign was worded and it's location made me think the entire ER was a substation.

Standing Wolf
October 25, 2003, 09:37 PM
The worst part is I just hate being told a lie, especially when it is being used to deprive me of my constitutional rights.

Whenever you feel there aren't enough lies in your life, talk to a leftist.

vertigo7
October 26, 2003, 01:02 AM
According to our guide there is no substation and he has no idea why the sign is even up there. I am figuring it is some anti hospital administrators way of banning CCW from their "hallowed" halls.

I've seen the same setup at Walgreens pharmacy locations in my area: Large hard-to-miss sign at the front door claiming it's a police substation and weapons are verboten, but no cops in sight, and local police department knows nothing about it. I don't do business with Walgreens anymore.

While it's unquestionably a morally bankrupt tactic in my opinion, isn't it even slightly illegal for them to make to make these false claims? I can only imagine the feeding frenzy of lawsuits that will occur when some poor victim running from an assailant praises his/her luck in finding a police substation only to find out it's nothing of the sort, leaving him/her unarmed, alone, and at the mercy of the pursuing goblins.

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