:fire: I have this .410 thats about 8 years old only put 20 rounds less into over all these years. I shot it about a month ago I cleaned it and put my little dust cover on. I went to take it outside today and I notice when I got back in there was a tad rust on the tip of the barrel (the rust is on the outside of the gun and on the tip over the barrel inside.) :fire: like 4-8 little dots of rust. How should I treat this? I use rem oil but its not rust preventer. I am very angry after all these years now I find rust! :( pretty mad that I would have rust on my gun. I clean my guns well good.
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memphisjim
July 30, 2009, 05:59 PM
brass brush
Johny
July 30, 2009, 06:06 PM
I have brass brush. Use it on the outside of the barrel?
sorry for mistake, the rust is on the outside of the gun.
Omaha-BeenGlockin
July 30, 2009, 06:07 PM
Break Free
memphisjim
July 30, 2009, 06:08 PM
i meant bronze its softer get a bronze bristled brush scrub rust off with oil and keep it oiled
rcmodel
July 30, 2009, 06:13 PM
0000 (Extra Fine) steel wool & oil if its already got a foothold.
No, it won't hurt the bluing, but the rust will if you don't get it all off.
Get bronze wool instead of the steel wool. The bronze wool will be less abrasive on the bluing. Bronze wool, Break-Free, elbow grease... that's the remedy!
rcmodel
July 30, 2009, 07:42 PM
0000 steel wool & oil is not abrasive to the bluing.
That's what gun bluing outfits use to card the bluing salts residue off a newly blued gun.
Bronze wool & bore brushes just rub off on the steel, and then you have to figure out how to get the copper off.
rc
Milkmaster
July 30, 2009, 07:50 PM
No sense arguing about it RC. Bronze wool worked for me. Disputing it here will not help the original posted question or change either mind.
Have fun!
pbearperry
July 30, 2009, 07:53 PM
If the spots are small,oil them and rub a copper penny over them.If need be,you can always apply cold bluing.
Avenger29
July 30, 2009, 08:10 PM
It's no big deal to have a very slight amount of rust. Just knock it off with 0000 steel wool and oil it back up. You may consider using a wax, dry lube, or grease and moisture absorbing storage materials for long term storage.
Sauer Grapes
July 30, 2009, 09:42 PM
Ok, you guys will think I'm crazy but, take a regular old pencil and rub the rust spot and it will clean it off, lickidy split.
And don't cover you guns with anything like socks or cloth or whatever. It just holds moisture. Dust won't hurt your guns. I have guns that sit for years with dust on them. No big deal.
Virginian
July 30, 2009, 10:08 PM
There is nothing wrong with covering your gun with something cloth as long as it is dry. They don't "hold" moisture unless there is moisture there to hold. Watch out with plastic, because it can help create a condensation point, and it will cause rust. Sounds like that is what happened here. Try to keep your guns where there are not big temperature swings.
ants
July 30, 2009, 10:34 PM
Sauer said: ...take a regular old pencil and rub the rust spot Sauer, how old of a pencil should it be??? Do really old pencils work better??? :p
Just kidding.
Seriously: Does the mechanical scraping action lift the oxidation off the metal? Of course, I wouldn't want the graphite to simply cover it up. Either way, that's a very interesting suggestion to keep in mind, Sauer.
And, No, I don't think you're crazy.
Johny
July 31, 2009, 01:35 PM
Thanks guys I got the dust off with some 0000steel wool(all they had) and some break-free! I think the plastic caused the rust. You think a tissue will work for a dust cover? its very thin? I will keep the dust covers off for now. THANKS! looks good as new :)
Sorry for error, there was rust inside the barrel -about 3-6cm inside the barrel and also there was a little spots on the outside. I just used a rod and placed 0000steel wool on it and some break free in the barrel and it came off under 30 seconeds! :)
oneounceload
July 31, 2009, 04:45 PM
Seriously: Does the mechanical scraping action lift the oxidation off the metal? Of course, I wouldn't want the graphite to simply cover it up. Either way, that's a very interesting suggestion to keep in mind, Sauer.
And, No, I don't think you're crazy.
Wrong end of the pencil.....try that pink part - works well.......
oneounceload
July 31, 2009, 04:46 PM
Seriously: Does the mechanical scraping action lift the oxidation off the metal? Of course, I wouldn't want the graphite to simply cover it up. Either way, that's a very interesting suggestion to keep in mind, Sauer.
And, No, I don't think you're crazy.
Wrong end of the pencil.....try that pink part - works well.......
Avenger29
July 31, 2009, 08:07 PM
Thanks guys I got the dust off with some 0000steel wool(all they had) and some break-free! I think the plastic caused the rust. You think a tissue will work for a dust cover? its very thin? I will keep the dust covers off for now. THANKS! looks good as new
For long term storage, use a storage grease and a moisture control bag (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1850/Product/BORE_STORES_LONG_TERM_STORAGE_CASES).
Horsemany
July 31, 2009, 09:31 PM
And don't cover you guns with anything like socks or cloth or whatever. It just holds moisture. Dust won't hurt your guns.
Not trying to start a war here but I respectfully disagree. Dust on steel surfaces will draw any present moisture from the air and hold it against the steel. This causes rust. Sword and knife guys who have blades hanging on walls are well aware of this. A gunsock over a lightly oiled gun stored in a low humidity area will last rust free for years. Dust is as important as what kind of oil you use to fend off rust IMHO.
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