my762buzz
July 31, 2009, 02:24 AM
Any kind of problem feeding or otherwise?
http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=497602
http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=497602
Has anyone ever had an issue with the choate 870 plastic follower?
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AcceptableUserName
July 31, 2009, 03:12 AM
other than it's longer than hell? no issues. It limits mag capacity. I honestly don't know why they made it that long. If you want full mag capacity, don't use it. You'll lose a shell. Choate's a great company though, can't go wrong with their products OR customer service imo.
my762buzz
July 31, 2009, 04:14 AM
I just double checked.
I got that same orange follower in my 870 MM
and 6 shells in the magazine. Even before I installed
the choate follower, I could only fit 6 shells in there.
http://www.oneshotonline.com/store/images/25012.jpg
I got that same orange follower in my 870 MM
and 6 shells in the magazine. Even before I installed
the choate follower, I could only fit 6 shells in there.
http://www.oneshotonline.com/store/images/25012.jpg
jakemccoy
July 31, 2009, 05:36 AM
I have not had problems. I'm guessing this longer follower helps prevent the magazine spring from over compressing. Also, a shorter follower doesn't allow me to add anymore rounds.
MAX100
July 31, 2009, 05:53 AM
Stay away from the one in the picture if you have a aftermarket tube extension. It's for the Remington factory tube extension.. If you go with the Choate follower get the one made for the Mossberg shotguns. It's the best follower they make and will fit all shotguns, it's universal. It's not as long as the one in the picture and it's the same size as the Wilson follower.
That said, the solid end follower take away space in the tube and usually cause the loss of one round in most shotguns. If you want the most space possible in the tube the metal open end hollow followers are the way to go. The spring fits inside the follower and no space is loss unlike with solid followers.
Vang & Brownells brand are excellent.
I just double checked.
I got that same orange follower in my 870 MM
and 6 shells in the magazine. Even before I installed
the choate follower, I could only fit 6 shells in there.
The reason the Choate long tail follower works with the Remington factory tube extension is the follower can't go past the indented ring in the mag tube. It's about 2.5" from the end of the tube and is there for the mag clamp screw. The loss of 2.5" from the indented ring, is also the reason why the factory tube extension only hold 6 rounds. It could hold 7 rounds if it wasn't for ring and with the right follower.
GC
That said, the solid end follower take away space in the tube and usually cause the loss of one round in most shotguns. If you want the most space possible in the tube the metal open end hollow followers are the way to go. The spring fits inside the follower and no space is loss unlike with solid followers.
Vang & Brownells brand are excellent.
I just double checked.
I got that same orange follower in my 870 MM
and 6 shells in the magazine. Even before I installed
the choate follower, I could only fit 6 shells in there.
The reason the Choate long tail follower works with the Remington factory tube extension is the follower can't go past the indented ring in the mag tube. It's about 2.5" from the end of the tube and is there for the mag clamp screw. The loss of 2.5" from the indented ring, is also the reason why the factory tube extension only hold 6 rounds. It could hold 7 rounds if it wasn't for ring and with the right follower.
GC
my762buzz
July 31, 2009, 05:24 PM
Very good to know.
MCgunner
July 31, 2009, 06:51 PM
Jeez, does that thing have a motor and batteries in it?
rcmodel
July 31, 2009, 06:59 PM
why they made it that long. If you want full mag capacity, don't use it. You'll lose a shell. It has no effect on mag capacity.
The long tapered part is simply a spring guide. There has to be that much room left for the compressed spring anyway.
Looks like a pretty good idea to me to prevent recoil induced coil binding with a full mag, etc..
rc
The long tapered part is simply a spring guide. There has to be that much room left for the compressed spring anyway.
Looks like a pretty good idea to me to prevent recoil induced coil binding with a full mag, etc..
rc
AgentAdam
July 31, 2009, 07:11 PM
http://www.riflestock.com/catalog_page_detail.cfm?recordno=11&Product_CatalogID=2859&ProductNumber=02-05-02&ProductCode=31&ProductSubCodeID=195&NewProduct=0
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=218305
http://media.midwayusa.com/highres/218305.jpg
I like the Mossberg 500 one. Its not that long. Its self lubricating,very smooth,and as others have mentioned the spring guide keeps the spring from stacking up incorrectly or over loading. I also like the high visibility hunting orange color to alert you when its empty. There are a few companys that makes aluminum followers without spring guides.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=218305
http://media.midwayusa.com/highres/218305.jpg
I like the Mossberg 500 one. Its not that long. Its self lubricating,very smooth,and as others have mentioned the spring guide keeps the spring from stacking up incorrectly or over loading. I also like the high visibility hunting orange color to alert you when its empty. There are a few companys that makes aluminum followers without spring guides.
dasanii19
July 31, 2009, 08:09 PM
Max100 knows his stuff!! :) When and if I ever switch from my factory 870 extension, I will buy one of Max100's.
expeditionx
July 31, 2009, 08:10 PM
The only issue with that big honking follower is it will not fit through
the 870 express magazine tube dimples. If you have dimples,
these actually fit through the dimples.
http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:5gUNmnGp-m5hWM:http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=915162
the 870 express magazine tube dimples. If you have dimples,
these actually fit through the dimples.
http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:5gUNmnGp-m5hWM:http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=915162
dasanii19
August 3, 2009, 12:37 AM
The only issue with that big honking follower is it will not fit through
the 870 express magazine tube dimples. If you have dimples,
these actually fit through the dimples.
http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:5gUNmnGp-m5hWM:http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=915162
That magazine follower might fit through the dimples but what about when you load the shotgun up? The shells wont pass through the dimples into the magazine tube. I Guess if your not using a mag tube, that follower would be a nice upgrade from the plastic.
the 870 express magazine tube dimples. If you have dimples,
these actually fit through the dimples.
http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:5gUNmnGp-m5hWM:http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=915162
That magazine follower might fit through the dimples but what about when you load the shotgun up? The shells wont pass through the dimples into the magazine tube. I Guess if your not using a mag tube, that follower would be a nice upgrade from the plastic.
expeditionx
August 3, 2009, 02:06 AM
That magazine follower might fit through the dimples but what about when you load the shotgun up? The shells wont pass through the dimples into the magazine tube. I Guess if your not using a mag tube, that follower would be a nice upgrade from the plastic.
All 870s have a tube magazine. I think your referring to an extension beyond
the standard magazine capacity in most 870s.
All 870s have a tube magazine. I think your referring to an extension beyond
the standard magazine capacity in most 870s.
Tin Man
August 3, 2009, 02:39 AM
I have used the Vang, Brownell's and the Choat. The Choat is the only one that does not hang up in my extended mag tube.
RandKL
August 3, 2009, 05:42 AM
If you have dimples...
Remove them. What else needs to be said? Anyone trying to use an extended mag tube without dealing with the dimples deserves all the trouble he's going to have.
There has to be that much room left for the compressed spring anyway.
RC, I was wondering if anyone was going to catch on to that.
richard
Remove them. What else needs to be said? Anyone trying to use an extended mag tube without dealing with the dimples deserves all the trouble he's going to have.
There has to be that much room left for the compressed spring anyway.
RC, I was wondering if anyone was going to catch on to that.
richard
expeditionx
August 3, 2009, 05:23 PM
Remove them. What else needs to be said? Anyone trying to use an extended mag tube without dealing with the dimples deserves all the trouble he's going to have.
The original post never mentioned a magazine extension.
Most shotguns are not magazine extended. Just because I can't
legally extend my bird gun for hunting does not mean I
shouldn't have the opportunity to use a better follower
than the thin plastic factory one. Something to think about.
The original post never mentioned a magazine extension.
Most shotguns are not magazine extended. Just because I can't
legally extend my bird gun for hunting does not mean I
shouldn't have the opportunity to use a better follower
than the thin plastic factory one. Something to think about.
RandKL
August 3, 2009, 06:52 PM
The original post never mentioned a magazine extension.
No, it didn't. But *you* mentioned the mag tube dimples and having your follower go past them. If you aren't trying to jam more rounds into the tube than it was designed for, then that wouldn't be a problem. Whether or not the follower gets past the dimples is an extended mag problem. Nothing more. If you aren't using an extension, the dimples are a moot point.
Whether or not the Choate follower fits past the dimples isn't a concern of the follower. It's about the dimples. If it won't fit, you fix the dimples, not the follower.
richard
No, it didn't. But *you* mentioned the mag tube dimples and having your follower go past them. If you aren't trying to jam more rounds into the tube than it was designed for, then that wouldn't be a problem. Whether or not the follower gets past the dimples is an extended mag problem. Nothing more. If you aren't using an extension, the dimples are a moot point.
Whether or not the Choate follower fits past the dimples isn't a concern of the follower. It's about the dimples. If it won't fit, you fix the dimples, not the follower.
richard
expeditionx
August 3, 2009, 10:24 PM
No, it didn't. But *you* mentioned the mag tube dimples and having your follower go past them. If you aren't trying to jam more rounds into the tube than it was designed for, then that wouldn't be a problem. Whether or not the follower gets past the dimples is an extended mag problem. Nothing more. If you aren't using an extension, the dimples are a moot point.
Whether or not the Choate follower fits past the dimples isn't a concern of the follower. It's about the dimples. If it won't fit, you fix the dimples, not the follower.
richard
Yes, I mentioned mag tube dimples because the choate can not be inserted into the magazine in the first place even to use it
in a 4 round capacity magazine tube if its an express with the dimples. No, whether or not the follower gets past the dimples is not
always going to be an extended magazine issue because in my example its only about inserting it to begin with and not about
having to pass the dimples constantly to operate correctly. I think you missed my point. If I want to use the choate follower
in a bird gun limited to 3 rounds (but its an 870 express), the dimples will not allow it to be inserted into the magazine
tube. If I do not want to have to remove the dimples, the choate follower is a bad idea. By the way, having a better follower
than the thin orange plastic factory one is a good idea even if your magazine capacity is less than what an extended magazine
allows for. A good solution is the green aluminum follower I posted the picture of. It actually has channels that allow it to
insert into a dimpled magazine.
Whether or not the Choate follower fits past the dimples isn't a concern of the follower. It's about the dimples. If it won't fit, you fix the dimples, not the follower.
richard
Yes, I mentioned mag tube dimples because the choate can not be inserted into the magazine in the first place even to use it
in a 4 round capacity magazine tube if its an express with the dimples. No, whether or not the follower gets past the dimples is not
always going to be an extended magazine issue because in my example its only about inserting it to begin with and not about
having to pass the dimples constantly to operate correctly. I think you missed my point. If I want to use the choate follower
in a bird gun limited to 3 rounds (but its an 870 express), the dimples will not allow it to be inserted into the magazine
tube. If I do not want to have to remove the dimples, the choate follower is a bad idea. By the way, having a better follower
than the thin orange plastic factory one is a good idea even if your magazine capacity is less than what an extended magazine
allows for. A good solution is the green aluminum follower I posted the picture of. It actually has channels that allow it to
insert into a dimpled magazine.
RandKL
August 3, 2009, 10:55 PM
Yes, I mentioned mag tube dimples because the choate can not be inserted into the magazine in the first place even to use it
Jeeezus! You're right. I'm still thinking in terms of my Mossbergs. I still find it hard to wrap my head around far end magazine caps.
Well put, sir!
richard
Jeeezus! You're right. I'm still thinking in terms of my Mossbergs. I still find it hard to wrap my head around far end magazine caps.
Well put, sir!
richard
xm21
August 4, 2009, 01:30 AM
I used a small round file to make grooves in a scattergun tech follower to allow it to slide past the dimples on my expresses mag tube.I wanted the stronger spring and better follower and did not want to mess with the dimples.
herkyguy
August 4, 2009, 09:18 PM
Drill out the dimples in newer 870s that have dimples and the follower works fine. put this thread to bed.
dasanii19
August 7, 2009, 12:05 AM
Drill out the dimples in newer 870s that have dimples and the follower works fine. put this thread to bed.
Why put two holes in your magazine tube when you dont have to? All the dimples need is a filing down. I know this thread is off track from the topic, but "just so you know".
Why put two holes in your magazine tube when you dont have to? All the dimples need is a filing down. I know this thread is off track from the topic, but "just so you know".
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