Strange Magtech .223


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Silvanus
July 31, 2009, 04:39 PM
I bought some Magtech 55 grs. FMJ ammo to feed my new AR15 (I'll post a range report soon ;) ) that looks kinda strange to me. Are these bullets seated correctly? All other .223 ammo I used so far didn't look like this... I don't have much experience with rifles other than my FAL yet, so I thought I'd rather ask some people who are more knowledgeable than me first, before I shoot this in my new rifle.


http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/11/50/35/28/ammo110.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=266&u=11503528)

http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/11/50/35/28/ammo210.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=267&u=11503528)

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jackdanson
July 31, 2009, 04:45 PM
Yeah they seem to be seated a little high. As long as it is seated on the cannelure you should be fine though.

taliv
July 31, 2009, 04:47 PM
by most accounts, QC is totally in the crapper for most ammo mfgs these days.

i'd shoot it though

rcmodel
July 31, 2009, 04:50 PM
Just judging by the apparent big difference in the cannelure depths, I'd say the bullets are all different lengths from elongation when the cannelure was applied. And that changes the seating depth relative to the cannelure location.

It probably won't hurt anything, but it certainly isn't the way it should be.

rc

Silvanus
July 31, 2009, 05:14 PM
Thanks for the quick responses! :)

So I assume it's safe to shoot these rounds?

I guess I'm gonna find out tomorrow:evil:

MMCSRET
July 31, 2009, 07:25 PM
I noticed this when loading Winchester and Hornady 55 Gr, FMJ/BT in once fired LC cases. I, also thought it was the location of the cannelure. In my case it wasn't, it was slightly varying case lengths and I was seating to my desired OAL. I measured bullets and all Hornadys in that lot were the same and all the Winchesters in that lot were the same. It was case length. I've seen it in new unfired cases too, lots of different calibers.

JimKirk
July 31, 2009, 11:42 PM
Could be case length as someone said or it could be different cannelure placement. Being thrifty as I am, I purchased some "seconds" from one of the reloading dealers, 10 out of the 100 had the cannelure in the same place! Maybe someone at Magtec bought some seconds!

Jimmy K

otrman
July 31, 2009, 11:52 PM
Well definitely not quite right but not enough to hurt anything but accuracy.

fireman 9731
August 1, 2009, 12:02 AM
What the heck is the deal with the one on the right? Does it have a huge ring missing where the cannelure is supposed to be or what?

MMCSRET
August 1, 2009, 11:07 AM
Assuming all 3 rounds are standing on a flat level surface, it is obvious to even the most casual observer that the cases are all different lengths,but OAL is the same.

DMK
August 1, 2009, 12:26 PM
What the heck is the deal with the one on the right? Does it have a huge ring missing where the cannelure is supposed to be or what? The cannelure was squeezed way too tight.


by most accounts, QC is totally in the crapper for most ammo mfgs these days.+1

Folks gripe about old surplus ammo, and I've heard folks talk about it like it was crap that would hurt my gun, but I have found modern boxed ammo to have a much higher incidence of quality problems than any 40+ year old milsurp I've ever shot.

MMCSRET
August 1, 2009, 03:10 PM
DMK; I agree, I have almost no experience with new, modern factory ammo because I don't use it or buy it. I load my own, but I do know that quality components are harder to come by today. I have a good supply of 38/357 bullets from the early 70's and some current production bullets, the older ones are much more uniform in all respects. Same with brass cases.

RSABear
August 1, 2009, 03:20 PM
by most accounts, QC is totally in the crapper for most ammo mfgs these days.

i'd shoot it though

he he... +1

I'll do the same, if it fits into the magazine it's going to shoot...

praharin
August 1, 2009, 05:49 PM
http://i80.servimg.com/u/f80/11/50/35/28/ammo210.jpg

the third one (right side) seems like a problem to me...

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