Brown Bear or Wolf Mil Classic 7.62x39


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clone
August 3, 2009, 05:49 PM
I have been using Wolf MC hollow point in my Yugo SKS for a while with good performance. Only had one round that had a light primer strike (or extra hard primer?), and accuracy has been good as well. Also had a popped primer but it didn't bother the performance, as I only noticed it when it fell out while cleaning.

But while looking around for deals I came across some Brown Bear hollow point a dollar or two cheaper. Is the Brown Bear any better?

Has any one compared these two rounds in their Yugo or other SKS?

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tju1973
August 3, 2009, 06:28 PM
Not sure on an SKS, but in my WASR, both work fine- I mainly shoot Silver Bear SPs at my range (they only allow SPs and HPs), btu I have around 1K Monarch JHPs that shoot well enough, and a bunch of Barnaul, and around 200-300 WOlf MC (JHP) that shoot well enough also. I have had ok luck with Winchester, but I only buy it when I have to--too expensive, but I have had no issues with them having a soft primer or anything...

stchman
August 3, 2009, 06:32 PM
I shoot Wolf .223 Remington in my Mini-14 and I can notice no difference in using Brown Bear.

FROGO207
August 3, 2009, 07:21 PM
I had some trouble with Wolf Military Classic in my Mini 30 when I first got it. The Wolf black box was OK though. Asking around on this and other forums I found out that the Military Classic has harder primers. I installed a new heavy duty firing pin spring and the problem went away. While trying to find the problem I tried Brown Bear and Silver Bear as well as a lot of others. The only ones that I had bad problems with were the cheap Chinese corrosive ones. I would stay away from them anyway because it is a pain to clean the firearm thoroughly after you use them.

clone
August 3, 2009, 09:17 PM
What about accuracy, any difference there?

If'n I had my druthers, I would get Yugo surplus ammo, as they tend to shoot very well (4in at 200yds) in the Yugo SKS. But I have not found any for a good price in a long while.

Snick91
August 3, 2009, 09:31 PM
Neither of the two are match grade ammunition. However, when compared to Wolf, I've found that Brown Bear performs marginally better in the accuracy department. It isn't as dirty either, which is a big plus. YMMV.

Z-Michigan
August 3, 2009, 09:49 PM
Yugo surplus is generally corrosive, FYI.

I've shot both, have not noticed any real difference. I have heard that Brown Bear is more accurate but can't confirm that. I would get whichever is cheapest.

wally
August 3, 2009, 10:02 PM
In my 7.62x39 AR the Brown Bear seems to have fewer duds. The duds pretty much always go off if I run them a second time through my AK or Mini-30.

Otherwise I see no difference worth mentioning and if both are available I get what is cheaper. If priced the same I'll get the Brown Bear for the AR. I don't see any difference in cleanliness.

--wally.

clone
August 3, 2009, 10:47 PM
Yes I knew, the rifle was cleaned after every outing with Yugo ammo.

Well Brown Bear being cleaner is enough to make the change, and if it is more accurate that's a plus to. So brown Bear it is.

Wonder if the Brown Bear has softer primers that might allow the SKS to slam fire?

CornCod
August 3, 2009, 11:11 PM
Apart from the Brown Bear being somewhat cleaner than the Wolf, I find that both have good performance in my SKS and AK's.

RP88
August 3, 2009, 11:12 PM
both smell, both go bang, both cycle flawlessly in my Saiga AK

Snick91
August 4, 2009, 01:06 AM
"Wonder if the Brown Bear has softer primers that might allow the SKS to slam fire?"

For what it's worth, I have no fear that Brown Bear will cause a slam fire in my SKS. A while ago, I was firing Wolf MC when I had the misfortune of experiencing a rather nasty pierced primer which gave me a nice face full of hot gas. The pieces of primer blew back into the firing pin channel causing the pin to freeze. The rifle extracted the casing and chambered a new round like it was supposed to. Of course, there was no way I would fire the rifle after this, so I examined the cartridge in the chamber and noticed a huge dimple in the primer. Luckily it did not go off or I would have surely had a very dangerous scenario on my hands. Needless to say, I have ditched Wolf MC. Brown Bear has worked flawlessly for me ever since. I don't know if it's just me, but I have had absolutely rotten luck with Wolf MC. The older stuff runs without a hitch though. Go figure.

EAJ
August 4, 2009, 12:39 PM
Neither of the two are match grade ammunition. However, when compared to Wolf, I've found that Brown Bear performs marginally better in the accuracy department. It isn't as dirty either, which is a big plus. YMMV.
+1 in my AKM 47. :)

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