First time buying gun. What next?


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the_game
August 4, 2009, 03:58 PM
Hi guys I recently bought me first gun. Buying a gun was a lot more easier than I though it would be. Picked out my gun, told the dealer I wanted it, filled out the paper work, waited for the background check, and then walked out of the gun show with my brand new Glock all in about 10min. Cool! Anyways my question is what do I have to do next? Do I have to register it and if so how? Any other thing I need to do?

Also I am going out of town this weekend can I carry it in the car with me or is it illegal? Do I need to register it before I take it in the car with me traveling?

By the way I live in Texas. Thanks for your help

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oneounceload
August 4, 2009, 04:01 PM
You might to first read the owner's manual on how to safely operate your gun. Then you might look online for the particular laws in YOUR state as to what is legal or not regarding travel. Third, I strongly recommend you get yourself to a safety/training series of classes, so you can ensure the continuous safe operation of your gun.

jephthai
August 4, 2009, 04:03 PM
Welcome a whole new world of legality. It all depends on your city, county, and state. Check your state laws for transport restrictions in your car. The more restrictive states will require you to carry it unloaded in a container out of reach of the driver (I'm in Illinois, and this is the case here). Others may be more lenient.

With regard to registration, again -- check your state and local laws. If your state laws allow a city to make more restrictive laws than at the state level, be sure to see if your municipality has any registration / storage / transport laws.

One of the best ways to get further help on this is to tell us in what state you live. There are certainly THR residents who live in your state and can fill you in on more detail.

-Jephthai-

gondorian
August 4, 2009, 04:06 PM
I'm definitely not sure, but I think that in texas you can have it in your car UNLOADED without any sort of permits, but if you want it loaded need a carry permit. That is what my friends in texas said. Oneounceload's advice about taking a class on safety and operation is very sound.

CoRoMo
August 4, 2009, 04:09 PM
All guns are always loaded (until you establish whether they are or not).
Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. Keep your gun pointed in a safe direction at all times: on the range, at home, loading, or unloading.
Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target (and you are ready to shoot).
Be sure of your target. Know what it is, what is in line with it and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you haven't positively identified.

21bubba
August 4, 2009, 04:12 PM
I've got a funny feeling about this.

CoRoMo
August 4, 2009, 04:13 PM
21bubba...

You thinking what I'm thinking?:scrutiny:

bababooey32
August 4, 2009, 04:16 PM
ding





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...my troll-dar is sounding.....

NavyLCDR
August 4, 2009, 04:20 PM
I'm definitely not sure, but I think that in texas you can have it in your car UNLOADED without any sort of permits, but if you want it loaded need a carry permit. That is what my friends in texas said. Oneounceload's advice about taking a class on safety and operation is very sound.

You're friend in Texas was wrong about vehicle carry in Texas.

the_game
August 4, 2009, 04:20 PM
What are you guys thinking I want to know

Yellowfin
August 4, 2009, 04:20 PM
Definitely get your state's CCW/CHP then a couple of out of state ones so you can make the most of it. Obviously you need a good holster too. And don't EVER ask "do I register it?" Registering guns is like declaring yourself to be a pedophile. The concept of gun registration is abhorrent.

bababooey32
August 4, 2009, 04:22 PM
...in case I'm wrong:

the_game

Welcome to gun ownership. First order of business is to take a firearms safety and familirization class. Many are offered here in TX. Let us know if you need rec's...

+1 to CoRoMo:

1) All guns are always loaded (until you establish whether they are or not).
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. Keep your gun pointed in a safe direction at all times: on the range, at home, loading, or unloading.
3) Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target (and you are ready to shoot).
4) Be sure of your target. Know what it is, what is in line with it and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you haven't positively identified.

As far as having the gun in your car, you may keep a loaded handgun concealed in your car without any permit. If you are leaving the state, you'll need to research the laws in the states you are travelling through and your destination state.

And there is no handgun registration necessary in Texas.





:scrutiny:

christcorp
August 4, 2009, 04:27 PM
the_game; not trying to dog you at all; but if you are asking these questions; which all of us have had in our lives; you are NOT READY to be doing anything with that gun; other than ready the manual; learning how to safely handle it; and taking to the range to practice with it. Any other question should not even be asked; nor answered; until then. And you definitely have no business even carrying the gun with the thought of using it for self defense. NOT YET!!!

the_game
August 4, 2009, 04:34 PM
I'm a little confused about all the answers... what you guys are thinking... in case you are wrong? Guess I came to the wrong place to ask a simple question. Thanks for the ppl who did answer though

chuckdeez
August 4, 2009, 04:40 PM
Internet advice is worth what you paid for it. Exercising your 2nd amendment rights requires you to adhere to a legal framework, with potentially serious consequences for non compliance. Consult an attorney, and do some legwork on your own re: your local state laws. Ignorance of the law is no defense as they say. Hopefully this smashes whatever lame troll attempt you started. Thanks.

bababooey32
August 4, 2009, 04:40 PM
the_game

Your question reads like that of a troll. The nature of the question could be meant to illicit remarks from posters here that an anti-gun advocate could use to besmirch the RKBA movement. On the other hand, they could just be innocent questions. That is why I said, "in case I am wrong".

If we are wrong, I apologize. It is all too common to get trolls roaming through looking for antagonistic posts from gun owners.

What part of TX are you in?

NavyLCDR
August 4, 2009, 04:43 PM
What you get on the internet is worth what you pay for it.

CoRoMo is correct.
bababooey32 is correct.

I don't know why folks are thinking you are a troll. It seems like you are just a newb like we all have been at one time, there's no offense to that and nothing wrong with that.

oneounceload
August 4, 2009, 04:49 PM
21bubba...

You thinking what I'm thinking?

I'm always willing to give the benefit of the doubt - if you answer it that way, then the antis have no ammunition to use -

OP - bottom line - safety begins between your ears. If you do not have the data stored there yet for reference, then you need to get educated about this properly BEFORE you go roaming around, especially with a 10MM.........

Have fun learning - shooting is a lot of fun.......

CoRoMo
August 4, 2009, 05:16 PM
He has a 10mm?

Tisk, Tisk, Tisk. My question to 21bubba shouldn't be misconstrued as some type of allegation about the_game's motives.



I'd be remiss if I didn't recommend training to the OP.
Find a concealed carry class, a basic pistol course, and enjoy the right of gun ownership.

NavyLCDR
August 4, 2009, 05:21 PM
No CoRoMo, he was surprised the purchase took all of 10 min as in 10 minutes!

CoRoMo
August 4, 2009, 05:26 PM
That's sorta what I thought.

In that case, we need a few more details on this Glock please.
If you say .357sig, I'm logging off for the day.:neener:

oneounceload
August 4, 2009, 05:27 PM
oops - what I get for reading too fast - coulda, woulda swore it said a 10mm in 10 min......better get my glasses updated.......

HoosierQ
August 4, 2009, 05:30 PM
Mr Game

I think people are taken aback by your question..."what next?". I am going to presume that most folks have done their homework prior to purchasing a gun. Some folks may think you a troll, others perhaps someone lacking enough knowledge of firearms to be safe. Gun guys are pretty safe because making a mistake with a gun can so easily be fatal and create a legal nightmare for someone responsible for the mistake.

Probably what's next is not a great question for an internet gun forum. I do think that those folks who advise that you seek training gave you very good advice. You need to know how to use your weapon safely, how to clean it, how to make ammo choices, how to secure it, how to carry it if you intend to...all these things require some skill and/or knowledge of both you individual firearm and of firearms in general.

I kind of know where you may be at. My ex-wife basically bought a boat and here I was having ridden in a boat only a couple of times. I learned. The first thing I did?...sought a boat owner to work with me. Everybody who boats loves boats so that wasn't hard to do.

Every body who shoots loves to shoot. I'd find a good friend, a trustworthy co-worker, an Uncle or somebody who is savvy with firearms and get them to take you out shooting or go with you to training.

Grey_Mana
August 4, 2009, 05:31 PM
NRA is a good place to start, when you are looking for gun-related information.

Regarding firearm laws for Texas, they have the NRA-ILA brochure (http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/TXSL.pdf).

christcorp
August 4, 2009, 05:34 PM
the_game; not to sound pissy, but you didn't ask a simple question. You live in a state; obviously are buying your 1st gun there; and don't know what the rules are. That's a very COMPLICATED question.

1) It's your state. Unless a fellow texan from your county; and possibly even your town; was to answer the question; none of us will have as accurate of an answer as even your local gun dealer would have.
2) Obviously this is the first gun you ever bought. Or at least in the state of texas. Because, had you bough other guns, you'd already know the answer to your question. You would have already been through the process. If there is one.
3) Finally; my wife is a lawyer; I have access to an entire law firm; and yet NONE of that is helpful to you. You should not take legal advice from anyone on the internet; for any topic whatsoever. If you want to talk about constitutional law and the different interpretations that the supreme court, congress, citizens, etc... have; that's great. But legal questions concerning gun laws and such, need to be directed towards your state's attorney general; Division Criminal Investigation; or whatever similar agency you have in your state.

Sorry, but you did not ask a "Simple" question.

ThrottleJockey72
August 4, 2009, 06:00 PM
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Just my opinion.

Badlander
August 4, 2009, 07:48 PM
OP says he walked out of the gunshow in 10 min with his new gun. Is there no waiting period in Tx.?

Superpsy
August 4, 2009, 08:33 PM
shoot it. =)

John Parker
August 4, 2009, 08:41 PM
That is what my friends in texas said.

I repeat hearsay from my friends as legal advice on the internet all the time too.

Sam1911
August 4, 2009, 09:45 PM
Is there no waiting period in Tx.

Only 13 states have any kind of waiting period for a firearms purchase -- TX certainly is not one of them.

(According to this web site, c. 2008: http://www.lcav.org/content/waiting_periods.pdf)

-Sam

Frank Ettin
August 4, 2009, 09:46 PM
Find an NRA certified instructor offering an NRA Basic Handgun class. That's good place to start and should answer all your initial questions. It will cover basic gun safety, basic gun handling, what the different types of handguns are, how they work, basic gun laws and basic marksmanship. It will give you a good foundation and start you off on the right foot.

Nothings quite as good as a little live, fact-to-face, instruction.

crebralfix
August 4, 2009, 10:31 PM
See: handgunlaw.us

Where are you traveling to?

If you are crossing a state line, then a Federal law applies. In general, it means that if the gun is legal at the end points, then you may transport it through states where it may be unlawful. "Unlawful" can mean anything from the ammo, gun, magazine, part, or some sort of ownership permit.

The means in which you transport your gun is very important. In general, you must (applies to Texas, but check the code for rules on transporting firearms):

1) Separate the gun from the ammunition. There is some variance in state laws on this. Therefore, do NOT load any magazines. Put all the ammo in a different LOCKED container.

2) Lock up the Glock using the lock that came with it. Put it in a case or some sort of lockable box. Put the magazines with the Glock, not the ammo.

3) Place everything in the trunk of your vehicle or in the back seat. It needs to be "out of reach".

Remember, if everything is locked, they cannot do anything to you IF the gun is legal at the endpoints. Also be aware that though Federal law protects you, some states such as New York DO NOT CARE and will charge you with a crime anyway.

I believe the above should be more than sufficient for driving around Texas. However, check the code. It should be online.

***

Additionally, do NOT answer any questions from law enforcement. Do not state you have a weapon in the car. You do not need to answer, but you need to be smart about it. If you are stopped, simply ask "What is this about officer?" Under no circumstances should you give them permission to search. The trick is to be firm while being polite. If you get the old "But if you have nothing to hide..." argument, just smile and say "Thank you officer for your concern, but we both know reasonable articulable suspicion doesn't work like that."

If the gun is locked up in a container, they cannot search it without probable cause that a crime has been, is about to, or is being committed.

You really need to do some research into how to handle the police. Check out You and the Police! and other sources especially if you don't know what "reasonable articulable suspicion" and "probable cause" are.

NavyLCDR
August 4, 2009, 10:50 PM
1) Separate the gun from the ammunition. There is some variance in state laws on this. Therefore, do NOT load any magazines. Put all the ammo in a different LOCKED container.

2) Lock up the Glock using the lock that came with it. Put it in a case or some sort of lockable box. Put the magazines with the Glock, not the ammo.

3) Place everything in the trunk of your vehicle or in the back seat. It needs to be "out of reach".

Wow. That only vaguely resembles the Federal law.... just a little bit, but not much.

Quilbilly
August 4, 2009, 10:56 PM
This is probably not what you want to hear but before you even consider carrying your new glock you NEED to get familiar with it.

bababooey32
August 5, 2009, 10:43 AM
Crebralfix couldn't be more wrong about the laws in the state of TX regarding firearms in the car.

In general, you must (applies to Texas, but check the code for rules on transporting firearms):

1) Separate the gun from the ammunition. There is some variance in state laws on this. Therefore, do NOT load any magazines. Put all the ammo in a different LOCKED container.

Nope...Not necessary in TX

2) Lock up the Glock using the lock that came with it. Put it in a case or some sort of lockable box. Put the magazines with the Glock, not the ammo.


Also not necessary in TX

3) Place everything in the trunk of your vehicle or in the back seat. It needs to be "out of reach".


Absolutely not necessary in TX.

These might be good recommendations for carrying across state lines, but within TX, all are incorrect.

NavyLCDR
August 5, 2009, 11:26 AM
These might be good recommendations for carrying across state lines, but within TX, all are incorrect.

Not really for carrying across state lines either!

crebralfix
August 5, 2009, 02:41 PM
As for whether or not it's Texas law...you misunderstood. Call it a default in the absence of knowing the actual law. If someone follows this (overkill) procedure, the vast majority of states will not have a problem with you.

I also noticed nobody offered up the actual procedures and requirements for Texas.

NavyLCDR
August 5, 2009, 03:55 PM
I also noticed nobody offered up the actual procedures and requirements for Texas.

The requirement in Texas is to conceal it when it is in the vehicle.

bablack
August 5, 2009, 04:27 PM
In Texas, the "Castle Law" states that one may keep a loaded firearm in a vehicle as long as it is concealed. The vehicle is considered an extension of the owners property. If the driver is stopped by a police officer and has a CHL, the driver must notify the officer that the weapon is in the vehicle (in the glovebox etc). However, if the driver does not have a CHL, no such notification must be give. Pretty much a double standard.

lions
August 5, 2009, 04:47 PM
CoRoMo:
1.All guns are always loaded (until you establish whether they are or not).
2.Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. Keep your gun pointed in a safe direction at all times: on the range, at home, loading, or unloading.
3.Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target (and you are ready to shoot).
4.Be sure of your target. Know what it is, what is in line with it and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you haven't positively identified.

Superpsy:
shoot it. =)

Yes... and yes! Be safe and enjoy!

bababooey32
August 5, 2009, 06:38 PM
I also noticed nobody offered up the actual procedures and requirements for Texas.

Yes, I did in Post #12:

As far as having the gun in your car, you may keep a loaded handgun concealed in your car without any permit.

22-rimfire
August 5, 2009, 11:06 PM
The first thing you do is learn to be safe and learn the operation of the Glock. Next you go shooting at a range and begin to learn about shooting handguns safely. Best to take a class if one is available in your area.

As far as carry in your automobile, it depends primarily in what state you are in and potentially local laws. In most cases, it is illegal to carry a loaded handgun in your auto without a carry permit. There are exceptions. So, if you do not know the laws, you place the unloaded gun in a locked box in your trunk and put the ammo inside the passenger compartment and transport the gun. The two have to be separated and not easily available. Not much fun, huh?

Enjoy.

NavyLCDR
August 5, 2009, 11:17 PM
As far as carry in your automobile, it depends primarily in what state you are in and potentially local laws. In most cases, it is illegal to carry a loaded handgun in your auto without a carry permit. There are exceptions. So, if you do not know the laws, you place the unloaded gun in a locked box in your trunk and put the ammo inside the passenger compartment and transport the gun. The two have to be separated and not easily available. Not much fun, huh?

If traveling interstate and relying upon the Firearms Owners Protection Act, 18 USC 926a for proper transportation, the above part in bold is not a proper method of transport.

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