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snooperman
August 4, 2009, 07:10 PM
Where do keep your loaded home defense shotgun for easy access?

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CWL
August 4, 2009, 07:53 PM
Mine's in the Master bedroom.

Handguns for initial response and retreat into MBR for shotgun if necessary. Handy to have it there for those "bumps" in the night after going to bed.

oneounceload
August 4, 2009, 08:02 PM
In a closet in the MBR - handgun on the nightstand to get to the shotgun

swampboy
August 4, 2009, 08:12 PM
I keep mine in the closet, but I'm worried about it when I'm not at home. I'm looking for a quick/simple solution for when I'm away. Thought I'd mount one of THESE (http://gunracks.tylerrose.com/rifle-racks.htm#3gunriflerack) and just throw a good padlock on when I leave the house. Any thoughts/opinions?

zhyla
August 4, 2009, 08:44 PM
Why worry about it when you're not there? Shotguns are relatively cheap compared to the other things that thieves will make off with while you're gone. Unless you're locking down your TV, etc, while you're gone why worry about the shotgun?

jakemccoy
August 4, 2009, 09:03 PM
Before I sleep, I prop up my shotgun next to my bed and place my Glock 27 in the safe. After I wake, I place the shotgun in the safe and pocket carry my Glock 27.

I believe in having only one gun out of the safe at a time, unless I'm going to the range. California makes gun owners liable for harm caused by kids using a gun owner's gun (with some exceptions).

swampboy
August 4, 2009, 09:09 PM
Why worry about it when you're not there? Shotguns are relatively cheap compared to the other things that thieves will make off with while you're gone. Unless you're locking down your TV, etc, while you're gone why worry about the shotgun?

The reasons SHOULD be obvious, but I'll explain anyway. Nobody is going to use my TV to go and harm anyone else. They're also unlikely to use my TV to harm ME if I walk in on a burglary.:banghead:

jakemccoy
August 4, 2009, 09:09 PM
I keep mine in the closet, but I'm worried about it when I'm not at home. I'm looking for a quick/simple solution for when I'm away. Thought I'd mount one of THESE and just throw a good padlock on when I leave the house. Any thoughts/opinions?

The smallest Stack On safe for long guns is better. I don't like the idea of having guns exposed when I'm not around. I need my guns completely enclosed in a safe and hidden if possible. To come close to the set up you describe, I'd rather open the safe when I'm home and lock the safe when I'm not home.

http://stack-on.com/securityplus/gun_safes/gs-8.html

swampboy
August 4, 2009, 09:13 PM
jakemccoy, I thought about those, but I can hide my long guns behind hanging clothes with the rack I linked to above. The Stack-On cabinet would be impossible to hide and I don't think it's as secure as a "real" safe.

jakemccoy
August 4, 2009, 09:19 PM
Yeah, the Stack-On doesn't compare to a "real" safe. I was comparing only to the link you gave. That device would be good for keeping out children. However, a burglar is going to get through that device, or they'll get pissed and take a sledge hammer to your guns. Also, I don't like the idea of my guns being hidden only by clothes when I'm not there. A Stack-On safe will be good against children and smash-and-grab thieves.

My personal philosophy about safes is that I'll go with either (1) a Stack-On safe bolted down or (2) an over-engineered monstrosity. I won't fool around with anything in between because it's a waste of money. An organized thief will get through a decent safe just like they'll get through a Stack-On safe. So, you have to over-engineer to surpass that problem.

geologist
August 4, 2009, 10:44 PM
I keep this in compliance with Canadian law, hanging in our bedroom closet, combination trigger locked, unloaded. The ammo is kept in a separate digital keypad safe beside the SG.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/pbgeologist/S5000001e.jpg

22LRFan
August 4, 2009, 10:45 PM
I'm not a fan of the locking rifle rack. Padlocks can be picked pretty quickly. But a safe is going to require some prying with a crowbar. You can bolt down a safe in the corner/side of a closet where prying becomes more complicated for a potential thief.

As for easy access, I'm pretty sure you can get hangers that hook to the side of a bed. I think I would put it on the side of a bed that is against a wall (if possible). Something like this: http://www.core77.com/blog/object_culture/bedmounted_shotguns_7779.asp.

swampboy
August 4, 2009, 11:07 PM
geologist, is the safety removed from that gun?

geologist
August 4, 2009, 11:14 PM
geologist, is the safety removed from that gun?

Yes, I lost the ball bearing and haven't replaced it so I'm running it without a safety. I will eventually replace it.

chris in va
August 4, 2009, 11:27 PM
Unless you're locking down your TV, etc, while you're gone why worry about the shotgun?

Beeeeeecause...we don't want firearms getting into the wrong hands?

All guns need to be LOCKED UP when not in use or the potential for use is evident.

AKElroy
August 4, 2009, 11:28 PM
Carry pistols are locked up loaded when I come home. The shotgun stays next to the bed, full mag, cocked & locked with an empty chamber. My kids are 8 & 11, and they are well trained to not touch without permission. I know this is controversial, but I do not lock up the drano, plug electrical outlets, or hide the lighters or car keys either. Neither did my folks.

My kids know they can handle these weapons whenever they ask, and they must recite the four rules EVERY TIME. They must also render the UNLOADED gun safe AGAIN, even though I did it in front of them before handing it to them. We make a game out of it, but we keep it serious as well. We were trained; our kids can be trained.

When they have friends over, I lock everything up.

withdrawn34
August 5, 2009, 12:16 AM
Something like a Mossberg Loc-Box would be ideal, but I'm not sure they make them anymore. You can still buy limited stock from some places, but it's at least $40 everywhere I look.

The thing I have with those locking racks is that while convenient, they don't offer any protection on the action. While it may not be a concern if you don't have kids in the house, I'd still rather have something that can't be fired while still locked to the wall. The Loc Box has a little arm that goes in the ejection port so that the action cannot be fully closed.

With as many people who keep a shotgun in the closet but still want quick access to it, I'm surprised more people haven't come out with cheaper and more available loc-box type alternatives.

jakemccoy
August 5, 2009, 02:59 AM
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jakemccoy
August 5, 2009, 03:01 AM
http://gunracks.tylerrose.com/rifle-racks.htm#3gunriflerack

I just noticed that shotgun rack doesn't secure the action. That's a definite deal breaker for me. If you want to lock the action, you have to add a trigger lock or something similar. Realistically, I wouldn't unlock the rack and the trigger lock every time I came back inside the house, nor vice versa.

I'm almost certain I've seen a shotgun rack somewhere that does secure the action, but I can't find it. Maybe someone will come along here to post it.

coloradokevin
August 5, 2009, 04:46 AM
My defensive shotgun sits between my nightstand and bed. Can't miss it if I'm looking for it in the middle of the night!

Personally, I don't leave the gun out when I'm out-of-town overnight, but I don't usually put it away on a daily basis. Some folks are critical of this, stating that "all guns need to be locked up at all times". Of course, my gun is still locked up... It is inside of my locked house! Obviously I don't want my guns to fall into the wrong hands, but it is rare for my home to be unoccupied for more than a few hours on any given day. So, I take the risk of leaving this one gun out of the safe (btw, my safe is really a cabinet anyway), and I usually conceal it in the bedding when I leave home.

Virginian
August 5, 2009, 06:28 AM
I keep mine in the closet, but I'm worried about it when I'm not at home. I'm looking for a quick/simple solution for when I'm away. Thought I'd mount one of THESE and just throw a good padlock on when I leave the house. Any thoughts/opinions?
I can see someone grabbing the gun and breaking the stock and having an instant pistol grip only shotgun. Really don't like that thing. I'd rather have a trigger lock.

snooperman
August 5, 2009, 07:58 AM
I have the same concerns as many of you have about storage of a home defense shotgun. My main concern was someone getting into my home when I was at church etc and killing me with it when I came home. But now I am retired and home a lot and I keep it unloaded next to my bed with 5 shells hidden in a fake book that has a small compartment in it for the shells, with a bible over the top of it next to the bed. It isn't perfect but it gives me some peace of mind now. I tried the safe bit but it was too much trouble. I also like many of your suggestions too, and am still looking for a better one than I presently have. Thanks, Sincerely , Snooperman

dom1104
August 5, 2009, 08:14 AM
mine is in the MBR closet, above the door on hooks.

They would have to look pretty well to find it, and its too high for the kids to get at.

ilmonster
August 5, 2009, 09:00 AM
Under the bed in a gun sock empty, ammo next to it. 8 seconds it's loaded with 5 (in the dark) - my wife timed me. Also have a Surefire 6P LED in hand.

swampboy
August 5, 2009, 09:47 AM
I have the same concerns as many of you have about storage of a home defense shotgun. My main concern was someone getting into my home when I was at church etc and killing me with it when I came home.

That's exactly my concern. I'm looking for something that's easily/quickly securable/UNsecurable that renders the gun available when I'm home and secure when I'm not. FWIW, no kids in the house. I'm worried about stopping BG's.

I DO have a safe, but it's in a remote part of the house & I won't realistically run put everything in there every time I go out.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
August 5, 2009, 10:13 AM
Shotgun is fully loaded, safety on, muzzle down, inside a quick-access, digital keypad full-sized safe, inside the man cave down the hall from the bedroom.

Handgun is fully loaded, safety on, semi-hidden (comforter draped over) in a "mattress holster" beside/hanging on the bed I sleep in (along with a Black Bear Borealis). There are no children in this house, and rarely any guests.

Primary CCW handgun is lying on the dresser in its smart-carry holster when home. So I've got two very-quickly accessible handguns, and one fairly-quickly accessible shotgun.

Backup CCW handgun is fully loaded, on a shelf in same quick-access full-sized safe.

Also in the safe, the K31 has a full mag (5 rounds) separated from the rifle, if things really get bad.

Shotgun trigger locked, unloaded, with ammo in separate locked compartment, required by law? The Canadian government sucks.

Carne Frio
August 5, 2009, 11:23 AM
One of these plus a quality safe for permanent storage:

http://gunracks.tylerrose.com/

lions
August 5, 2009, 11:57 AM
Here is one that would obstruct the action. It looks like the hook inside the lock box goes into the chamber.

http://www.mossberg.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=95092&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.exe%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3D%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates\MossPdgNav\SearchResult.html%26category%3DSECU

Doesn't look very stout but if someone really wants it they will get it anyway.

swampboy
August 5, 2009, 02:45 PM
Carne Frio; that link is the one that was in my original inquiry. The shortcomings have already been discussed.

lions; I don't think the Mossberg one is still in production. I do like the design though.

TomADC
August 5, 2009, 03:50 PM
Cocked & locked on a empty chamber with the safety on stored in the MBR closet.
I figure I need to take the safety off, either pull the trigger then rack the slide or hit the slide release, in my way of thinking to go thru all that I have to be wide awake..

Quilbilly
August 5, 2009, 03:52 PM
Mine fits nicely inside the bed rail against the mattress. Covered by the bed skirt. Its perfect.

Girodin
August 5, 2009, 03:59 PM
Why worry about it when you're not there? Shotguns are relatively cheap compared to the other things that thieves will make off with while you're gone.

I suppose that depends on the type of shotgun. I actually am considering investing in a cheap norinco for this reason. My shotgun is nearby when I am home. It is in the safe if no one is home.

snooperman
August 5, 2009, 05:24 PM
I am trying to figure how I could do it with my bed that I have. I can just hear my wife utter " oh no now its the bed" or something similar, but she will let me do it if it works out. I would probably have to buy a different bed??? My mattress does not have a board on the outside. Where do you get that much room for it??

jeremy1391
August 8, 2009, 12:04 AM
in between bed and night stand. and i got the wife running backup with her snubby .38

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