Who makes a good quality 7.62x51 AR


PDA






Dimis
August 4, 2009, 09:45 PM
the title says most of it

im looking to build (or buy complete) a good shooting AR in 7.62x51 (.308)

i want something i can have a full rifle quad rail on (preferably one that lines up with the reciever rail) with a 20 inch barrel (suggest me a twist rate)
obviously a flat top because i want to scope it

and id like something reasonably priced in between say 1500-3000 (staying closer to the 1500 side as much as possable)

anyone have any suggestions?

anything i should avoid?

i was looking into DPMS but there SASS is a bit pricey but thats close to what i want

If you enjoyed reading about "Who makes a good quality 7.62x51 AR" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
gvnwst
August 4, 2009, 09:48 PM
DPMS, POF, Armalite, KAC, Bushmaster, and RRA all make .308W AR-10s. Bushmasters and RRAs use FAL mags, and I think Armalite uses some kind of odd mag, can't remember.

i want something i can have a full rifle quad rail on (preferably one that lines up with the reciever rail) with a 20 inch barrel (suggest me a twist rate)
obviously a flat top because i want to scope it

If you want to mount something up front, you need a monolithic rail, otherwise, the slightest skew of the rail will make your POI be way off compared to mounting on the reciever.

RonE
August 4, 2009, 11:01 PM
They all make good ones! The question might be, who makes the best optics for a .308 AR platforme.

gvnwst
August 4, 2009, 11:05 PM
They all make good ones! The question might be, who makes the best optics for a .308 AR platforme.

Depends on use, range, and expected conditions.

Dr_2_B
August 4, 2009, 11:16 PM
I'm no expert, but I'd look at dpms

P.B.Walsh
August 4, 2009, 11:20 PM
Are the Remington R-25's any good?

3pairs12
August 4, 2009, 11:22 PM
Aren't they owned by the same people that Bushmaster?^ Cerebus or something like that?

P.B.Walsh
August 4, 2009, 11:27 PM
I think so, just asking if the R-25's are good. :)

jpwilly
August 4, 2009, 11:30 PM
Yes the R-25's are made by DPMS and also good quality although I don't care for the camo wallpaper. Very happy with my DPMS AP4 16".

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p38/jpwilly/101_1028.jpg

ParaElite
August 4, 2009, 11:49 PM
DPMS LR .308 TAC 20 (20 inch 1 in 10 twist and has the quad rail with free-floated heavy barrel). Removable carry handle. They run about $1300, they may be cheaper now that prices are coming down. I paid $980 + S&H for mine on Dec. 31st '08. I have 15 of the DPMS .308/7.62X51mm 19 rd. magazines. In fact the barrel on the TAC 20 is marked 7.62. Magpul will be coming out with actual 20 round magazines for under $20 a piece.

Z-Michigan
August 5, 2009, 12:12 AM
DPMS, POF, Armalite, KAC, Bushmaster, and RRA all make .308W AR-10s. Bushmasters and RRAs use FAL mags, and I think Armalite uses some kind of odd mag, can't remember.

Bushmaster no longer makes a 308 AR. They sold their design to RRA.

Armalite uses a proprietary mag, which is a bit similar to an M14 mag. Reason? They came out during the AWB and could offer 20rd mags by converting M14 mags, which were then fairly available. Price of their mags today is fairly competitive with DPMS/Knight's/Original AR-10 type mags, as long as you buy direct from Armalite and preferably when they run their sales.

I haven't heard bad things about any of the AR-10 types above. My personal choice would be the Armalite, or possibly POF. But DPMS would cost you a lot less and they get good reviews also.

gvnwst
August 5, 2009, 12:17 AM
Bushmaster no longer makes a 308 AR. They sold their design to RRA.

Armalite uses a proprietary mag, which is a bit similar to an M14 mag. Reason? They came out during the AWB and could offer 20rd mags by converting M14 mags, which were then fairly available. Price of their mags today is fairly competitive with DPMS/Knight's/Original AR-10 type mags, as long as you buy direct from Armalite and preferably when they run their sales.

Okay, good to know.

Intresting, I am guessing they had to mod them to get rid of the lock in stuff and put a hole in the side for a AR type mag catch?

W L Johnson
August 5, 2009, 01:09 AM
Bushmaster no longer makes a 308 AR. They sold their design to RRA.
That's where they went.

Intresting, I am guessing they had to mod them to get rid of the lock in stuff and put a hole in the side for a AR type mag catch?

Off Armalite's website, note the date and note that they're talking about Gen I mags, Gen II mags are a little different in design although Gen II AR-10s will work with Gen I mags
August 30, 2003
TECHNICAL NOTE 7: USE OF M-14 RIFLE MAGAZINES IN AR-10B RIFLES
1. The AR-10B magazine is based on the proven M-14 Rifle magazine. This magazine is
of 10 round capacity in conformance with the 1994 Crime Bill. If more capacity is
needed, the AR-10B will accept a modified 20 round M-14 magazine.
2. Modification of the magazine requires machining the body of the magazine,
replacement of the follower, and a slight change in the follower spring. This
modification allows the magazine to function in both the M-14 rifle and the AR-10B,
although it will not actuate the bolt catch in the M-14. Modification removes the top
half of the magazines latch plate, thus weakening its attachment to the magazine box.
The plate may break off later, allowing the magazine to function only in an AR-10B.
Depending on magazine length, it is often best to load only 19 rounds in the magazine.
3. Magazine conversion kits are available to allow customers to convert their own
M14/M1A magazines to AR-10B magazines
4. Modified 20 round M-14 magazines, will not work in 1960 era AR-10 or AR-10A
rifles, or in the Knight’s Manufacturing SR-25 rifle. Magazines for those rifles will not
work in the AR-10B series rifles.
5. 20 shot “post-ban” magazines are available to law government and export purchasers.

Lloyd Smale
August 5, 2009, 07:05 AM
sure like my dpms. It shoots sub moa and is very reliable.

jpcolt76
August 5, 2009, 07:56 AM
I have have an awesome Armalite and would recommend it to anyone who is going to shoot "Factory" ammunition. Armalite AR10 are setup tight for accuracy and can be frustrating to someone shooting surplus 7.62. I shoot Remington 150's in mine with no troubles and excellent accuracy. Good luck with you choice.

If you enjoyed reading about "Who makes a good quality 7.62x51 AR" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!