Red Dots, let's see them


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QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
August 6, 2009, 01:35 PM
im looking to mount a few red dots on a few different hand guns i have and would like to see some mounted up as well as some reviews of the optics.

Thanks,
Shean

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Walkalong
August 6, 2009, 06:52 PM
1911 and a J Point (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=50514&d=1167957729). Nice little sight. OK dot. OK lens. Small is nice. Gun still its in a Galco Avenger holster.

1911 and C More (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=49177&d=1165882608). Great sight. Great dot with interchangeable modules (size dots)

586 and an Ultra Dot (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=56758&d=1176851443). Very nice dot and lens. Better than the J Point.

FA 97 and a Red Dot (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=60962&d=1184714484). Ultra Dot again.

1911 and a Red Dot (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=75000&d=1206138026).

Two 1911's and Red Dots (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=81319&d=1215876706). Discontinued Leupold on the Colt .38 Super on the bottom. Weigand mounts. Super Mounts

Buckmark with a Tasco red dot (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=83334&d=1219195566). Pretty nice red dot. No complaints

1911 and a Red Dot (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=89535&d=1229646278). Aimpoint. Great Dot. Great glass. As good as it gets.

Colt Trooper Mark III (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=90023&d=1230593883). Cheap Simmons. Decent dot, decent glass. Unknown mount.

Trailside (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=49094&d=1165700672) before

Trailside now with Nikon Red dot. Very nice red dot. Discontinued though. They have one similar now. Haven't seen one.

chris in va
August 6, 2009, 09:31 PM
CZ 75BD with Kadet slide, Millett dot, Weaver rail.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7841/imgp2023.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/imgp2023.jpg/)

I received the dot in the mail and soon discovered the optics were off enough to cause a double image. Other friends confirmed this. Called Millett, had me send it back to CA from VA for an exchange, took two weeks. This one works decently enough but the rheostat ring is loose and I'm just wondering how long it will last before it quits.

I'd much prefer one of those micro holographic dots that Walkalong has, but they're pretty expensive.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
August 6, 2009, 09:47 PM
wow i thought he meant there was already a thread for this. . .

long day at work.

thanks for the pictures and comments.

SharpsDressedMan
August 6, 2009, 10:11 PM
Beretta 75 with AAC suppressor and Docter sight. ................................................http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/matquig/DSC05365.jpg

Double Naught Spy
August 6, 2009, 11:33 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=387345&highlight=aimpoint+naa+mini

Dr_2_B
August 7, 2009, 05:12 AM
I know those red dots are great, but I just can't deal with the aesthetics of those monsters on one of my handguns.

Walkalong
August 7, 2009, 07:14 AM
but I just can't deal with the aesthetics of those monsters on one of my handguns. As your eyes start failing you, you will begrudgingly change your mind about using them, if not liking the way they look. ;)

DickM
August 7, 2009, 09:28 AM
My stable of bullseye pistols, all with UltraDot Match Dots:

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p2/Pancora/137_3754.jpg

M2 Carbine
August 7, 2009, 09:35 AM
I'm a fan of Red Dot sights. I don't know how many I have but I usually always need a couple more.:)

Since I use so many, spending hundreds for them is out of the question. Since I've found that the inexpensive sights, like BSA, gives good service I just stick with them.

Red Dots, let's see them

Here's a few.

GSG-5 pistol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/GSG5pistolJPG.jpg

Winchester 9422.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Winchester9422.jpg

Bushmaster
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/M4withStreamlight.jpg

AK pistol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/AK75rdpistol450.jpg

Ithaca 12ga
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/Ithicapistolgrip.jpg

Ket Tec PLR .223 pistol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/PLRCarbinesling.jpg

Damon555
August 7, 2009, 09:07 PM
I only have 1 but the Bushnell on my Neos works great.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/edlafond/DSC_0663.jpg

The Wiry Irishman
August 7, 2009, 09:11 PM
DickM - who made your 1911 grip?

DickM
August 7, 2009, 11:05 PM
DickM - who made your 1911 grip?

Vitarbo - purchased from Champions Choice about 4 years ago. They don't seem to carry them any more.

wally
August 7, 2009, 11:07 PM
As your eyes start failing you, you will begrudgingly change your mind about using them, if not liking the way they look. ;)

Agreed, but since I had Lasik last year I'm enjoying iron sights more and red dots less :)

--wally.

Took me a while to find this:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=25363&stc=1

wally
August 8, 2009, 08:44 AM
Here is another:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=67297&d=1195127161

The great thing about Red Dots is even the cheap ones can be very good. Other than the size, this $20 BSA works every bit as good as the $200+ J-Point.

--wally.

M2 Carbine
August 8, 2009, 09:48 AM
The great thing about Red Dots is even the cheap ones can be very good.
+1

You have to figure that a $30 sight isn't going to have the quality and isn't as tough as a $300+ sight, but for most uses the cheap sight is fine and costs ten times less than a "good" sight.

The dot in the cheap sights isn't as sharp as the expensive sights but good accuracy can still be achieved.

One thing, the target (bullseye) has to be bigger that the dot in order to center the dot on the target.
For instance, when shooting with a 4 inch dot at 100 yards, the bullseye must be about 5-6 inches.

Decent accuracy can be obtained even with the slightly fuzzy cheap Red Dot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/M4BSARedDot.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/BMM4100ydsBSA.jpg

bluetopper
August 8, 2009, 01:08 PM
I initially was thrilled with this BSA holographic sight as it performed great. But after about 75 rounds of 44 Mag reloads (not hot either) the lens came loose. I tried to super glue it back, but that didn't work. The open sights work just fine anyway and I'll keep it stock from here on out.


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o182/bendebval/629holo.jpg

Ric
August 8, 2009, 02:08 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/D-Ric902/IMG_0778.jpg

wally
August 8, 2009, 03:14 PM
I initially was thrilled with this BSA holographic sight as it performed great. But after about 75 rounds of 44 Mag reloads

I've had good luck with the inexpensive tube type red dots, and no success at all with a couple of the inexpensive reflex type.


The dot in the cheap sights isn't as sharp as the expensive sights but good accuracy can still be achieved.

Decent accuracy can be obtained even with the slightly fuzzy cheap Red Dot

The key to using a Red Dot is you have to look through the dot and focus on the target, unlike a scope or irons where your eye focuses on the reticle or front sight.

--wally.

DAVIDSDIVAD
August 8, 2009, 03:28 PM
That little sight actually looks like it belongs on that M&P Ric.

Cool stuff.

753X0
August 9, 2009, 12:57 AM
I use my gun for home defense mostly, so I put a Laser/Light combo for use at night and I'll use open sights for daylight.

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp339/jpk222/HK-1.jpg

This was taken with no light, except the light on the gun. The Laser is aimed just about where someones heart would be. The lasers is round, the odd shape is from me moving slightly.

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp339/jpk222/light3002.jpg

chris in va
August 9, 2009, 01:03 AM
...except we're talking about red dot scopes, not lasers.

753X0
August 9, 2009, 01:11 AM
Just trying to show that there's other options. That will enable someones sight to be effective day or night, not just day.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
August 10, 2009, 09:01 PM
yes we understand that and i have CTC grips on my K frame .357mag

but im looking for reviews and pictures of red dots. thanks anyways.

Avenger29
August 10, 2009, 11:41 PM
I know those red dots are great, but I just can't deal with the aesthetics of those monsters on one of my handguns.

Many are big and ugly now, but they will get smaller and smaller until they are not nearly as obtrusive.

kle
August 11, 2009, 11:32 AM
UltraDot, 1", 4moa red-dots:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2437/3640666594_30c8ca2b93.jpg

I once had Tasco 30mm AccuDots, but after one nearly literally fell apart at the range under mild .45 recoil (3.7gr W231 under 185gr LSWC), I switched to all-ultradots, and I've been quite happy since.

rodensouth
August 11, 2009, 01:03 PM
KLE,

Nice smiths. Love the 617, what type of rail do you use?

M2 Carbine
August 11, 2009, 05:55 PM
I once had Tasco 30mm AccuDots, but after one nearly literally fell apart at the range under mild .45 recoil (3.7gr W231 under 185gr LSWC), I switched to all-ultradots, and I've been quite happy since.
I like the looks of those sights. I'll have to try one.

kle
August 12, 2009, 12:28 AM
KLE,

Nice smiths. Love the 617, what type of rail do you use?

They're all Weigand Combat weaver-style rails (http://www.jackweigand.com/swhpmnt.html). They're pretty beefy aluminum rails, probably with far more strength than I really need--I rarely shoot full .357 Magnum rounds through the 686 (actually, according to my records, I've never shot a single magnum through it, just mild .38 Special wadcutters), or full-power .45ACP 230gr ball rounds through the 625 (most of the time it's a light target load).


I once had Tasco 30mm AccuDots, but after one nearly literally fell apart at the range under mild .45 recoil (3.7gr W231 under 185gr LSWC), I switched to all-ultradots, and I've been quite happy since.
I like the looks of those sights. I'll have to try one.

What, the AccuDot? or the UltraDot? The UltraDot is definitely good quality when compared with the AccuDot--the quality of construction feels a lot better, the dot is a lot crisp-er, and the 11 brightness levels on the UltraDot is a lot more versatile than the seven on the AccuDot.

Of course, you pay for this quality--the UltraDots were roughly three times as expensive as the AccuDots (I've got two ADs and four UDs), but I consider that well worth it.

Here's a pic of the 617 w/ an AccuDot (before I switched to UltraDots):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/3060715078_32996bae84.jpg

Note that both the AccuDot and the UltraDots are wearing the extended sun-shades. The shade (which extends the scope body by about 1.5") is removable, but I like the look of a long tube on top of the gun.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
August 14, 2009, 05:56 PM
i love those S&W's

kd7nqb
August 17, 2009, 04:55 AM
RIC what is that sight on your M&P? I really like it and feel that my M&P may need one.

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