Magpul MOE vs CTR - Stock


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wacki
August 8, 2009, 03:06 AM
What's the difference between these two stocks? Just the friction lock? How does that work? How big of a difference does it make?

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kwelz
August 8, 2009, 03:25 AM
CTR friction lock and a mounting point for a sling swivel.

The friction lock just locks onto the side of the RE. It tightens the hold but isn't always needed.

winknplink
August 8, 2009, 01:01 PM
I found the CTR friction lock pretty useless for the price. You have to be a pretty picky shooter to need a stock that is length adjustable to the inth degree...and on a battle rifle of all things.

Now, the QD swivel mount is totally worth it...but not for $50 more, IMO.

What MagPul should do is add the QD swivel mount to the MOE stock and forget about the friction lock junk. Find a happy compromise in price between the two and just sell 1 stock in that configuration. They'd make a lot more money that way.

taliv
August 8, 2009, 01:16 PM
i like the friction lock on the CTR enough to not want a MOE version.

H2O MAN
August 8, 2009, 01:26 PM
CTR all the way!

winknplink
August 8, 2009, 01:31 PM
i like the friction lock on the CTR enough to not want a MOE version.

I guess my thinking on this is...if the boogie man comes to the back door, are you really gonna spend the extra 5 seconds adjusting your stock?

twofourthree73
August 8, 2009, 01:56 PM
You have the stock already adjusted and locked down so it won't be moved easily. I like the friction lock personally. I really wanted the QD sling swivel. I can move my slings back and forth between rifles easily.

Onmilo
August 8, 2009, 02:18 PM
The friction lock prevents complete failure of the stock latching mechanism should it be subject to battle damage, abuse such as banging the stock on the ground to free a stuck case, etc.

When locked it does tend to tighten the stock down against the tube a bit for a no slop fit.

Is it worth it?
Your money, you decide.

Coronach
August 8, 2009, 03:17 PM
Ironically, we just had someone report that he broke a MOE in another thread, while mortaring the rifle. Would a CTR have broken? I dunno.

Mike

taliv
August 8, 2009, 03:45 PM
I guess my thinking on this is...if the boogie man comes to the back door, are you really gonna spend the extra 5 seconds adjusting your stock?

why would i need 5 seconds to adjust it? it stays at the setting i want. the only time i would move it would be to collapse it fully for storage.

sourdough44
August 8, 2009, 04:10 PM
CTR here, like it.

Walkalong
August 8, 2009, 05:19 PM
MOE here. Like it. Would buy CTR next time.

dscottw88
August 9, 2009, 02:44 AM
MOE is just a 6-position stock. The CTR is a 6-position, but the friction lock removes any and all play from the stock when shouldered. I'm not very picky about my AR's, but I think the CTR is the best stock for the money. Its very very solid.

ScareyH22A
August 9, 2009, 05:32 AM
What he said. Some people think that the friction lock is some sort of infinite adjustment system. It's not.

Frankl03
August 9, 2009, 07:47 AM
I like the CTR Stock because it locks up tight. I have had three of them. I don't like the floppy M4 type stocks. I have not tried the MOE stock.

winknplink
August 11, 2009, 09:37 AM
why would i need 5 seconds to adjust it? it stays at the setting i want. the only time i would move it would be to collapse it fully for storage.

I would venture to guess that's b/c it's a collapsible stock.(?) Isn't that the point of a collapsible stock...to be able to reduce the length of the rifle so it can be stored/transported easier? Am I missing something? You still have to adjust the thing eventually..right? ANd more options lead to more confusion...of course, you already know that.

I'm sure there are folks like you who keep their rifles set just to their liking 100% of the time, just as I'm sure there are some of us who keep the rifle collapsed and tucked out of the way.

IMO, it's just a frill I don't need...if it goes bang...I could care less how the stock is adjusted or how wobbly it is. But, that's just me...all function all the time over here.

gunsandreligion
August 11, 2009, 12:41 PM
Am I missing something?yes you didn't read this Some people think that the friction lock is some sort of infinite adjustment system. It's not.

Big44mag
August 11, 2009, 01:27 PM
I haven't used an MOE but the CTR seems to hold up better than an adjustable ACE to larger calibers like the 458 SOCOM. I put a couple dozen rounds through the shorty with the CTR and it worked great, the Ace wouldn't collapse after 6 rounds because the tab between positions was deformed.
I posted this earlier in the week in a thread titled 458 SOCOM vs ACE SOCOM stock. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=467407

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/458%20shorty/DSC_0203.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/CopyofDSC_0312.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/justice_lawbreaker/CopyofDSC_0088.jpg

maroast
August 11, 2009, 01:45 PM
Holy crap! That thing is a BEAST!

Gary G23
August 11, 2009, 10:17 PM
i like the friction lock on the CTR enough to not want a MOE version.
Me too. I bought my sixth CTR not long ago.

taliv
August 11, 2009, 10:23 PM
six CTRs?? dang

i've got 2 CTR, 2 UBR, 1 PRS and 1 M93b (not counting non-magpul stocks)

boricua9mm
August 12, 2009, 07:29 AM
Just put a MOE on my ban-era RRA M-Faux. I like it a lot and the price is right. The stock actually fits much tighter than the standard Carbine stock, so any bit of play is minimal. I've never managed to break a CAR or M4 stock, so I predict the MOE will serve me just fine at 1/2 the cost.

nhm16
August 12, 2009, 07:42 AM
Have had both CTR and MOE, I prefer the CTR if only for the sling mount. When one of my lowers had a MOE I kept looking for a way to add a QD sling mount to the lower, which costwise would have made up the $ difference between the two, so I sold the MOE and got another CTR.

EQ
March 30, 2010, 12:55 AM
just a thought,, but looking at that ace socom stock... I wonder if you could have fired it from the fully retracted position, so that the force is focused on a CHUNK of the metal verse the couple mils of aluminum

Steve in PA
March 30, 2010, 08:04 AM
CTR......all the way.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d159/Steve_in_PA/Guns/0320001722.jpg

Shawn Dodson
March 30, 2010, 11:57 AM
Isn't that the point of a collapsible stock...to be able to reduce the length of the rifle so it can be stored/transported easier? Am I missing something? You still have to adjust the thing eventually..right? ANd more options lead to more confusion...of course, you already know that. Think of it as an "adjustable" stock versus "collapsible". It permits the operator to adjust the stock for desired length of pull, which may change depending on clothing being worn, or while bearing a rucksack, or while wearing an ammo carrier or body armor. Once you adjust the stock to fit then you leave alone unless a different condition affects the fit.

I have CTRs installed on my M4s.

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