I've got a semi-auto .308 itch...


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Wolfsburg
August 9, 2009, 07:59 PM
...and I'd like some input on how best to scratch it. I've been looking at some high-capacity options and really am at an impasse on how to proceed. I've though about an AR-10 (or .308 AR-style rifle), an FN FAL of some sort, or a PTR-91. What other options are out there? What do you all recommend?

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hydraulicman
August 9, 2009, 08:08 PM
There is always an M1A. I like one but they are expensive

CnRnut
August 9, 2009, 08:09 PM
All your choices are just fine by me,if you can drop the 1K.
Don't toss out the Saiga 308. With @ $100 they can be converted
to be "AK'ish". Love my Saiga 308,yet with todays price of .308,it
is now just a safe queen.

jpwilly
August 9, 2009, 08:16 PM
M1A comes to mind. The rifles are like driving a Cadillac IMO. I like my LR-308 lots and love my M1 Garand (.308 Win re barrel) even though it's less accurate than the LR-308. It just has more "soul". I'm thinking want to add M1A to my collection!

The AR platform is easier to scope etc etc so there are lots of benefits. The FAL is an excellent battle rifle. The PTR-91 as well. If you want tack driving accuracy the LR-308 will deliver! All 308 rifles tend to be on the heavy side keep that in mind if you do lots of walking around with one.

Also, unless your rich you better reload. Consider a rifle that won't tear up your brass!

PT1911
August 9, 2009, 08:19 PM
this is what you need my friend

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=111055

get a Savage BATS...hehe

W L Johnson
August 9, 2009, 08:20 PM
Don't forget there are auto 308s that are more targeted to the hunter such as the Remington 750 and the Browning BAR. although they may not meet "high capacity"

but for High capacity I vote for the AR-10 (Armalite) and for 1/3 the cost a saiga.

gga357
August 9, 2009, 09:05 PM
I vote for the POF-308 16".

FROGO207
August 9, 2009, 09:26 PM
I have a Remington 7400 in 308 and there are 10 rnd mags available for it. Also I have heard about the option of bubba'ing a h&k mag reasonably easily.

H2O MAN
August 9, 2009, 09:27 PM
M14 or M1A :)

RX-178
August 9, 2009, 09:42 PM
Saiga is probably the best bang for the buck.

FAL and PTR-91 would be next. PTR-91 eliminates the possibility of reloading your brass, however, because of how violently it ejects, but extra G3 mags are selling for $0.99 on Cheaper than Dirt, which is about as good as it could possibly get. FAL mags are pricier (still cheap, but nowhere close to a buck a piece), but you shouldn't have any problems reloading the brass with them.

Of course, at the top of the list is the M1A. If you have the spare cash for it, it's absolutely the best all around .308 semi on the market, in my opinion.

Frankl03
August 9, 2009, 09:52 PM
AR10 or M1A will be more accurate than a FAL or a PTR91. Just a thought.

TurboFC3S
August 9, 2009, 10:13 PM
I have one ... or a couple of just about every .308 semi-auto. Honestly I love them all, each has pros and cons. Fal, G3, DPMS 308, M14, Saiga ... I couldn't even begin to say which is best, I don't even have a favorite myself. They all work very well and all are nice to shoot. Just pick one that looks like what you want, and find a good deal.

I will say I've become very close with my PTR-91. If I'm going to the 600 yard range I always take it with me, I can pound the 400 yard steel all day long with iron sights standing. The best for use with optics is without a doubt the AR-10 style.

W L Johnson
August 9, 2009, 10:20 PM
PTR-91 eliminates the possibility of reloading your brass
I've heard that.

Both my Armalite AR-10s, 16" and a 20", are very easy on the brass, in fact it's hard to tell they were even fired.

Hammerhead6814
August 9, 2009, 10:30 PM
Depending on how much ammo you want to go through I say try a Saiga .308. 168 Federal Matchking ammunition is doing wonders in some Saiga's. I've now met a Saiga .308 owner in real life and he swears (just like they do on the Saiga forums) that 168 gr Matchking is the best thing that a Saiga can chew on. Even handloads apparently do not meet the performance of that cartridge.

On the other hand, I can't find 168 Matchking on the shelves at any local dealer. So you'd have to order it online, and with shipping this could get expensive. Maybe even enough to justify a M1A (a cheap one) or a FAL.

Martyk
August 9, 2009, 10:44 PM
Quote:
PTR-91 eliminates the possibility of reloading your brass



Not True... with the addition of a Port Buffer I re-load my brass regularly. No problem.

RX-178
August 9, 2009, 11:33 PM
Might have to pick up one of those for my PTR-91 then.

Although it is pretty fun to watch the brass fly out without one. It looks almost like a hummingbird flying out the side of the weapon with how fast the casing spins in the air.

Raptorq7r13
August 9, 2009, 11:59 PM
I'd say the FAL. I love 'em, though they seem a tad on the heavy side. The infamous "they" say they'll be producing 30 round mags soon. Heard that forever now. For now it's just a 20 rounder.

taliv
August 10, 2009, 12:24 AM
i had the itch today too...


after church today, i spent the rest of the day on several hundred acres with this SR-25 in 308win. stood some steel targets up on a hill, then spent several theraputic hours walking around adjacent fields and ponds looking for challenging places to shoot from. range it... calc dope... squeeze and listen for the PINGGGGG then look for a new firing point.

was extra challenging today because i set up the targets at the western edge and most of the firing was directly towards the sun. several of the points i chose were also right over a large pond, so i had glare from the sun from above and glare coming from below off the water too. even with the honeycomb ARD, it was like looking through milk most of the day.

i only went out to 550m, but no misses today


http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1096/sr25field1.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/874/sr25field2.jpg


i'd definitely vote for the AR pattern... a DPMS clone would be a good choice

(edit: sorry for the crappy cell phone pics, but hopefully they will inflame your itch...)

(edit: oh, and welcome to THR)

gga357
August 10, 2009, 12:28 AM
FNAR
http://www.gunblast.com/FN-AR.htm

gga357
August 10, 2009, 12:29 AM
TALIV, very nice.

rangerruck
August 10, 2009, 02:13 AM
Saiga, first, last , and allways. The reliability, combined with the build and accessorize as you like, plus spend as much or as little money as you like, and with the 16 inch bbl, you got a carbine lenght flame thrower, that will be
surprisingly accurate , and not just for an ak, but accurate for ANY 308 semi auto. You can get them now, more sanely priced, as in, I just saw some here in Houston; price is under 500 bucks now...
So you get the saiga, drag bag, sling, extra mags, cleaning kit, gunsock, mojo peepsites, new furniture, with trigger upgrades, and pistol grip, side rail picatinny, for your optic, your optic. Everything, EVERRRRRYYYTHHHHINNG, excluding the rounds, all for the cost, of 1 of those mentioned above. Cooool.

plus , it will shoot milsurp anything, darn, DARN GOOD! I am talking, if you put your mind to it, MOA capable, with several milsurp loads, most any of your former british empire stuff, american, canadian, S. African, and any of the old Nazi S. american stuff, like chile, venez, argentine, etc.

A bried story; while shooting it up at a range, I randomly loaded several mags, and did not notice that I was putting all diff types of rounds, in all the diff mags, all milsurp, all diff makes, paid no attention. Suddenly there was the speakers, " two minutes until the end of the session..."
I looked over at my mag pile; 100 rounds left. Outloud just to hear myself over the noise, I said
" two minutes, huh?" a couple of younger dudes laughed at me, when they heard me say it, they
were sitting on the bench behind me. I proceeded to empty all 100 rounds, in the last 2 minutes.
I was shooting open sites, at the 3 inch circle shoot n see targets, 100 yds, sandbag rests only.
Speaker guy clears the line, and i go down range, the other 2 dudes go as well, to look at their
targets. only 4 holes outside the shoot n see; that means 96 hits in 2 minutes, with open sites.
The 2 dudes mouths were drooling and catching flies at the same time..." Whoooaaaa" is all they could say. I admit, I was very happy as well, just tried to look all calm about it though.
when we got back up top, all they wanted to know, was about the rifle....

H2O MAN
August 10, 2009, 08:24 AM
Scratch that itch!

MK14 SEI Mod 0

http://www.smithenterprise.com/images02/young01.lg.jpg

Reid73
August 10, 2009, 04:34 PM
Other options:

BM59
http://www.autoweapons.com/photosn/438bm59c.jpg

Sig AMT
http://world.guns.ru/assault/sig_sg510-4_amt.jpg

Galil
http://www.dnmsport.com/GALIL/762arm.gif

Wolfsburg
August 10, 2009, 09:35 PM
Thanks for the suggestions! I had not really considered M1A/M14 style rifles since I already have a M1 Garand, but I might have to add them to the fray.

What's the story behind that Mk14 Mod 0? I couldn't really find much in the way of pricing. I'm guessing it'll be more than I care to spend (ie: over $2000), but it looks really interesting.

H2O MAN
August 11, 2009, 09:02 AM
Wolfsburg

What's the story behind that Mk14 Mod 0?

The History and Development of the SAGE Enhanced Battle Rifle (EBR) chassis stock system (http://www.athenswater.com/M1A_Scout_Squad_EBR.htm)

The civilian version of the MK14 Mod 0 is basically a Springfield Bush or Scout rifle bolted into a SAGE M14ALCS Designated
Marksman, M14, EBR Tactical Aluminum Chassis Stock with telescoping butt stock, adjustable cheek rest and butt pad.

http://www.athenswater.com/images/EBRs020407%20003.jpg

Another option is the civilian version of the MK14 Mod 1.
This configuration is about 2.5 lbs. lighter than the Mod 0 and it's basically a Springfield Bush or Scout rifle bolted
into a M14ALCS/CV CQB M14, EBR Tactical Aluminum Chassis Stock with M4/M16 style receiver extension tube.

http://www.athenswater.com/images/EBRs020407%20004.jpg




I listed the Springfield Bush and Scout rifles, but there are other builders (LRB & SEI) that build barreled actions with 18.5" & 18.0" barrels.
Both standard profile and medium heavy profile barrels are available. DC Vortex and GLFS are available to replace the USGI flash hider.

A $2000.00 MK14 MOD 0 is possible if you purchase a used Scout/Bush and a used SAGE M14ALCS EBR stock...
If you prefer the standard 22.0" barrel you may want to consider building a copy of the TACOM M14 EBR RI.

http://www.athenswater.com/images/TACOM-RI_M14_EBR.jpg


Additional information is available on the M14HDW forum (http://m14hdw.proboards.com/index.cgi)

Good luck!





.

Ignition Override
August 12, 2009, 02:36 AM
Wolfsburg:

Have you read information at "Warrifles"?
Those guys are really earnest about their preferences.

Owlnmole
August 12, 2009, 06:50 AM
The Remington 750 Wingmaster can be had in an 18 1/2 inch barrel carbine model with walnut or synthetic stock. Accuracy and reliability are supposed to be much improved over the older Remington autos and I think the aftermarket 10-round magazines for the older models will fit the 750 as well. There is something to be said for a perfectly serviceable rifle that doesn't look like a "black rifle" but can still get the job done no matter what that job might be.

Girodin
August 14, 2009, 02:00 AM
mojo peepsites, new furniture, with trigger upgrades, and pistol grip, side rail picatinny, for your optic, your optic. Everything, EVERRRRRYYYTHHHHINNG, excluding the rounds, all for the cost, of 1 of those mentioned above. Cooool.

In the place of mojo peeps and a side rail I would simply get a beryl rail with a peep. I think this rail is preferable to a side mount. The texas weapon system rail cost the same as the peeps + side rail. I have read at least one report of the mojo peeps having and issue on the .308.

I do agree however that the saiga 308 is a very solid MBR.

UnTainted
August 14, 2009, 02:29 AM
...and I'd like some input on how best to scratch it. I've been looking at some high-capacity options and really am at an impasse on how to proceed. I've though about an AR-10 (or .308 AR-style rifle), an FN FAL of some sort, or a PTR-91. What other options are out there? What do you all recommend?
To answer your question, I will need more years to save up and purchase more of the rifles of the type to compare, contrast, and provide a good opinion.

As of now, though, I've gotten off to somewhat of a start with the .308 itch--so I can opine--and I wanted something versatile, so I could hunt with it, but still expect reliability. I went with Armalite.

It's chewed through 125 grain double tap, 147 grain 7.62 military, 150 grain fusion, 150 grain b-tip, 180 grain soft points, 150 grain soft points, without a problem. It doesn't get as dirty as my ar-15 inside either shooting, but that's probably from less rounds. The recoil is a lot less that I though it would be for a .308.

It is heavier than the ar15, but well balanced (center of balance for this rifle the way the scope is mounted is near the center of the mag well).

I'm sure whatever you do, the platform will provide a certain level of excitement in its own right, but the caliber you're choosing also provides opportunities and smiles of its own making.

http://i29.tinypic.com/aajeb4.jpg

1858
August 14, 2009, 02:37 AM
I vote for the POF-308 16".

+1 but with a 20" barrel. That's what I bought on Tuesday ... a POF 20" SPR ... what a beauty!! It looks monstrous with that full-length MRR.

As good as FALs and M1As are, the AR-10 platform lends itself to just about anything you could want to put on it or inside it. Within minutes of getting the POF home, I installed a Mark 4 scope in a LaRue mount, a LaRue QD bipod mount and swapped out the standard latch on the charging handle for a PRI combat latch. MOA accuracy out to 500 yards + is attainable with an AR but may be a lot harder to achieve with an M1A or FAL.

That bloody M1A Scout that I ordered back in November of last year is nowhere to be seen yet ... :cuss: ... maybe sometime before the end of the year if I'm lucky!

:)

1858
August 14, 2009, 02:54 AM
I don't understand the constant reference to the cost of magazines when choosing a rifle. I couldn't give a rats a$$ if the magazines cost $1, $5 or $50 .... in fact, magazine cost doesn't even figure into the decision process for me. I'm concerned about accuracy and reliability, and as long as magazines are available then it's all good. When I picked up the POF, the gun shop owner gave me one Panther 19 round mag for free, the POF came with one C Products mag and I bought two more Panther mags for $45 each ... that's almost 80 rounds of .308 at my disposal. That'll be it for me until MAGPUL brings out a PMAG in .308.

:)

TXHORNS
August 14, 2009, 03:04 AM
POF in .308 would be my choice. It is amazing and the best of all worlds imho. After that is a DSA FAL and then an M1A. Then DPMS or AR10. And last the PTR-91. The FNAR sounds good, but I need hands on before I say anything either way, it may be great, i just dont know. If you want a deal, dpms sporticals are now about $900.

FlyinBryan
August 14, 2009, 01:54 PM
accuracy would be paramount if i were choosing a 308 semi, so it would have to be an ar or an m1a type.

taliv
August 14, 2009, 02:06 PM
I don't understand the constant reference to the cost of magazines when choosing a rifle. I couldn't give a rats a$$ if the magazines cost $1, $5 or $50 .... in fact, magazine cost doesn't even figure into the decision process for me. I'm concerned about accuracy and reliability, and as long as magazines are available then it's all good. When I picked up the POF, the gun shop owner gave me one Panther 19 round mag for free, the POF came with one C Products mag and I bought two more Panther mags for $45 each ... that's almost 80 rounds of .308 at my disposal. That'll be it for me until MAGPUL brings out a PMAG in .308.

well, if you used your guns more it would

i've been traveling in cali for work most of the year, barely getting to shoot at all. haven't broken any mags in 6 months. previous 12 mo, i shot a lot and had at least 5 mags fail that i can think of. i'm glad they were $9 D&H and $11 PMAGs, instead of $117 KAC mags

H2O MAN
August 14, 2009, 02:13 PM
Suppressed semi-auto .308 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rs6Jj30TOk) :evil:

FlyinBryan
August 14, 2009, 03:17 PM
your killing me h!!!!!!!!!!!!

seriously, it just doesnt get more awesome than that.

m1a.

any mission
any foe
any range

god, please let me have one someday, please.

1858
August 14, 2009, 04:03 PM
i shot a lot and had at least 5 mags fail that i can think of. i'm glad they were $9 D&H and $11 PMAGs, instead of $117 KAC mags

taliv, define FAIL. You're telling me that KAC .223 mags cost $117?!! :what: No wonder KAC doesn't list any magazines on their web site ... none that I could find anyway.

:)

twkremer
August 14, 2009, 04:29 PM
I think my vote would be either an M1a or a FAL. I just love M1s though. So classic...

taliv
August 14, 2009, 04:30 PM
fail == crack, welds on spine let go, feed lips spread or otherwise just cease functioning

uhh, around that. they list for a good bit more than that. here's some for $119 http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=120&t=604177

Reid73
August 14, 2009, 04:31 PM
seriously, it just doesnt get more awesome than that.

m1a. any mission, any foe, any range

god, please let me have one someday, please.You're recommending a rifle as the best there is, and yet you apparently don't own one? :confused:

M14/M1A is indeed a fine rifle, though not my own favorite.

I don't understand the constant reference to the cost of magazines when choosing a rifle. I couldn't give a rats a$$ if the magazines cost $1, $5 or $50 .... in fact, magazine cost doesn't even figure into the decision process for me. I'm concerned about accuracy and reliability, and as long as magazines are available then it's all good.Yes indeed. 80 rounds is more than enough for any conceivable need.

Some folks seem to feel the need for sufficient magazines and ammunition to single-handedly fight WWIII. They are entitled to their opinions, but such 'zombie' scenarios seem implausible to me.

well, if you used your guns more it would.... i shot a lot and had at least 5 mags fail that i can think of. i'm glad they were $9 D&H and $11 PMAGs, instead of $117 KAC mags If you stop buying cheap equipment, you shouldn't have any problems.

FWIW, I have never experienced or witnessed any problems with issue 'inch-pattern' FAL magazines. Ever.

taliv
August 14, 2009, 04:37 PM
FWIW, I have never experienced or witnessed any problems with issue 'inch-pattern' FAL magazines. Ever.

that statement might possibly be meaningful if we knew how many mags and rounds you used in training, matches or otherwise away from a bench.

federalfarmer
August 14, 2009, 04:40 PM
I have the same itch! And those M1A's are speaking to me....deeply....its a little scarey. :evil:

Hmmm what to sell? How come we know what to buy, but not what to sell?!

Good luck with the search.

H2O MAN
August 14, 2009, 04:40 PM
Reid73

You're recommending a rifle as the best there is, and yet you apparently don't own one?

Maybe he doesn't have a sound suppressor for his M14 yet...

HardShell
August 14, 2009, 04:51 PM
Love my semi-auto .308s and have scratched that very itch you have many times over the years.

I currently have a DPMS .308 AP4, a SOCOM-16, a G3 clone and a CETME, an old FAL, and even one of the .308-rechambered French MAS 49/56 rifles (:o).

My favorite of the bunch is my DPMS, hands down -- but YMMV greatly because ARs, in general, are my very favorite rifles. I have them in a very wide variety of calibers and configurations.

Were it not for the AR-platform having an unfair advantage in my preferences, the SOCOM might just get the nod -- it is a nifty, well-made little rifle and one most of my friends ask me to bring along on a range trip.

Best of luck making a decision on just how to "scratch." :D

1858
August 14, 2009, 05:06 PM
fail == crack, welds on spine let go, feed lips spread or otherwise just cease functioning

.308 magazines are steel so the spot welds aren't ever going to "let go" ... and if they did, I'd fix them myself. Also, are you dropping your .308 KAC magazines from 5' onto concrete ... I doubt it? Based on my experience with steel AI magazines, the feed lips won't spread either but if they do, I'll bend them back. So in reality, we're talking about .223 magazines right? Magazine followers and spring kits are readily available as are USGI magazine bodies.

How many rounds do you shoot in a typical carbine class? How much does the class cost? How much do those rounds cost you? Now let's assume that one magazine is irreparably damaged during every class ... what percentage of the total cost of the class + ammunition does the magazine account for?

Like I said, magazine cost is STILL a non-issue for me.

:)

Reid73
August 14, 2009, 07:53 PM
that statement might possibly be meaningful if we knew how many mags and rounds you used in training, matches or otherwise away from a bench.Most (though certainly not all) of my experience with the FN-FAL was acquired in the military. I certainly can't tell you how many specific rounds of ammunition I have fired, or individual magazines I have used ... "lots" is the best I can say (anyone who claims they can recall such specifics is being economical with the truth ... let's get real).

I can say that most, probably all, of the magazines we were issued were old and 'well-used'; but I never experienced, witnessed or even heard about a failure. No doubt such things happened, but once in a blue moon.

I almost never shoot from a bench, BTW (not sure what difference that makes to magazine durability, but since you mentioned it).

I don't consider the FN to be the 'perfect' battle rifle, or even necessarily the 'best'. That's not the issue. I'm just calling BS on the suggestion that a large number of mags are essential because "failures" are frequent.

Buy quality, only cry once.

H2O MAN
August 14, 2009, 08:01 PM
The M14 is supported by brand new USGI 20 round mags made by
CMI and SEI is bringing their 20 round M14 mags to market soon.

Prices for new USGI 20 round mags are about $20.00 each.

http://www.44mag.com/images/cm20.jpg

Wolfsburg
August 18, 2009, 01:33 AM
For better or worse, I took the plunge on a PTR-91F. It should be here tomorrow or Wednesday. Wish me luck!

1858
August 18, 2009, 03:33 AM
For better or worse, I took the plunge on a PTR-91F. It should be here tomorrow or Wednesday. Wish me luck!

Hopefully photos and a range report will follow .... and congratulations on your new rifle.

:)

Almond27
August 18, 2009, 03:39 AM
M1A would definitely be my pick

DeadLiver
August 18, 2009, 03:55 AM
Oh man, I've had this itch for a long time! Now that I've traded my Glock away for my 1911, it's time to figure out how to scratch it...The SOCOM 16 speaks to me, literally. It has to be the most fun I've ever gotten to shoot in my life. However, I keep looking longingly at DPMS or a full size M1A to truly harness the capabilities of a .308. Ideally, I'd just buy them all and sell any I didn't like to you guys, but I don't have the funding atm for even one...But on a budget I'd probably find myself to a DPMS Sportical.

HardShell
August 18, 2009, 07:47 AM
...The SOCOM 16 speaks to me, literally. It has to be the most fun I've ever gotten to shoot in my life...

They are a blast! I was blessed to fall into a great deal on one with a number of magazines, barely used, at a decent price a year or two back...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/HardShell/RWB%20-%20Rifles/SOCOM-16cropped30.jpg

:)

DeadLiver
August 18, 2009, 07:58 PM
Hardshell, I'm very jealous. The last one I saw in my neck of the woods was $1879. $1200 or so would be more realistic imo.

Hunt3r
August 19, 2009, 02:20 AM
XCR-M, maybe.

Supposedly should be out this year. I wouldn't be surprised if it got delayed to next year, don't get your hopes up.

http://www.robarm.com/XCR_308_Left-Iso.gif

http://www.robarm.com/XCR_308_Right-Iso.gif

These are old photos, Just imagine them with DPMS/SR-25 mags. And minus the grip safety.

Wolfsburg
August 19, 2009, 08:24 PM
That's pretty cool. One to keep an eye on...

Younggunner
August 20, 2009, 12:54 AM
If you're not intothe saiga. Go to jgsales.com and look at the cetme 308. $600 for a great rifle and then accessorize to your hearts content.

lebowski
August 20, 2009, 10:57 AM
My M1A national match is by far the nicest gun I own.

H2O MAN
August 20, 2009, 11:04 AM
MK14 Mod 1 folder

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_0503.jpg

MGD 45
August 20, 2009, 11:18 AM
Here's my little semi-auto .308 "puppy".....

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/MGD45/M1Asetup.jpg

Here's my best load & grouping with it......& it's only a standard model...nothing fancy.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/MGD45/0119091728a.jpg

1858
August 20, 2009, 02:42 PM
My local gun shop just had one of these come in the other day ...

http://128.171.62.162/hawthorn-engineering/thr/fal/sa58_para.jpg

... it has the SA58 Extreme Duty Para Scope Mount (http://www.dsarms.com/SA58-PARA-Extreme-Duty-Scope-Mount---620APARA/productinfo/620APARA/) installed. Asking price is $1,850 ... seems like a fair price.

:)

Owlnmole
August 20, 2009, 07:23 PM
At the other end of the spectrum between the Saiga and the FAL, the Remington 750s are available for $612 (synthetic stock, carbine or rifle) and $692 (walnut stock, carbine or rifle) delivered at Buds Gun Shop (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/advanced_cat_search.php?cated=40&manufacturers_id=3&ITATR_list%5B1%5D=2032&ITATR_list%5B2%5D=206&ITATR_list%5B3%5D=&ITATR_list%5B4%5D=&ITATR_list%5B5%5D=&ITATR_list%5B6%5D=&ITATR_list%5B7%5D=&ITATR_list%5B8%5D=&ITATR_list%5B9%5D=&ITATR_list%5B0%5D=).

Classic Arms (http://www.classicarms.us) also has the CETME rifles for $600 with two mags.

H2O MAN
August 20, 2009, 07:38 PM
When it comes to a semi-auto .308 it is best that one sticks with the reliable FAL and M1A/M14 variants.

1858
August 20, 2009, 07:49 PM
When it comes to a semi-auto .308 it is best that one sticks with the reliable FAL and M1A/M14 variants.

... or AR-10 variants.

H2O MAN, I just noticed that you have that LaRue QD mount "backwards" on that M1A with the folding stock ..... very clever!!

:)

H2O MAN
August 20, 2009, 08:02 PM
H2O MAN, I just noticed that you have that LaRue QD mount "backwards" on that M1A with the folding stock ..... very clever!!

That's not my Mod 1, but it is a clever use of LaRue's SPR-E LT-139.

I prefer the LaRue LT-608 on my SAGE EBR stocks. The 608 is made for the Mod 1.

http://www.athenswater.com/images/LT-608c.jpg

1858
August 20, 2009, 08:08 PM
Would that LaRue LT-608 work on a Springfield M1A Scout? It does look like a rigid and practical set up with QD capability.

:)

H2O MAN
August 20, 2009, 09:59 PM
I don't think it would work on a Springer forward mount.

mesinge2
August 20, 2009, 10:33 PM
I know I really want a Fulton Armory FAR.308 Titan

bshnt2015
August 20, 2009, 10:46 PM
LMT has a 308 semi-auto coming out.

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