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lobo9er
August 10, 2009, 03:11 PM
7.62x39 white tail and black bear upstate new york may be going to adirondaks for white tail and black bear , black bear are around 2-300 pounds i hear around there on average its the rifle i have and i dont have any plans on buying another (plans do change though:) ) does the job on white tail at 50-100 yards never gone after black bears though i do have a few shot guns but nothing packs as easy or as light as a underfolder. anyone have any AK hunting history?? any info helps thanks

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rcmodel
August 10, 2009, 04:40 PM
You can consider the 7.62x39 to be a 30-30 Winchester shooting lighter bullets a little slower.

If you use good Soft-Point hunting bullets, and put them in the right place, it should get-R-done.

Be sure and check the NY hunting regulations as far as magazine capacity limitations, etc.

rc

Joe Demko
August 10, 2009, 05:26 PM
According to the NY State Dept. of Environmental Conservation:

It is illegal to hunt or take wildlife
•with any semi-automatic firearm with a capacity to hold more than 6 rounds, EXCEPT the following semi-automatic firearms:

1. firearms using .22 or .17 caliber rimfire ammunition, or
2. firearms altered to reduce their capacity to no more than 6 shells at one time in the magazine and chamber combined, or
3. autoloading pistols with a barrel length of less than eight inches.

It would seem that the purchase of a 5 round magazine or two is in order. Don't have any larger capacity magazines with you.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
August 10, 2009, 06:23 PM
Here, think I have something that may help you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run-on_sentence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

3. autoloading pistols with a barrel length of less than eight inches

So you can hunt with a snubbie revolver or a derringer, but not a Wildey Magnum, Desert Eagle, or the like. Brilliant legiscritters they've got up there.

Reid73
August 10, 2009, 06:51 PM
Here, think I have something that may help you:Indeed! :banghead:

Hammerhead6814
August 10, 2009, 09:40 PM
It's so damn hard to read the first post I'm going to have to alter it. Here we go:

I have a 7.62x39 AK and plan on hunting white tail and black bear in upstate New York. I may be going to Adirondacks for white tail and black bear. Black bear are around 2-300 pounds. I hear that is the average weight.

The AK is the rifle I have and I do not have any plans on buying another. Plans do change though. My rifle does the job on white tail at 50-100 yards but I have never gone after black bears though. I do have a few shotguns but nothing packs as easy or as light as a underfoldering AK. Does anyone have any AK hunting history? Any information helps, thank you in advance.

I THINK I got the gist of what he was trying to say. I could be wrong. Anyone agree with the translation?

lobo9er
August 10, 2009, 11:11 PM
thanks for the translation now i understand my question

lobo9er
August 10, 2009, 11:17 PM
Originally Posted by lobo9er
I have a 7.62x39 AK and plan on hunting white tail and black bear in upstate New York. I may be going to Adirondacks for white tail and black bear. Black bear are around 2-300 pounds. I hear that is the average weight.

The AK is the rifle I have and I do not have any plans on buying another. Plans do change though. My rifle does the job on white tail at 50-100 yards but I have never gone after black bears though. I do have a few shotguns but nothing packs as easy or as light as a underfoldering AK. Does anyone have any AK hunting history? Any information helps, thank you in advance. i would then ask you to translate a hand signal for me but i dont think it would be the highest road. i just kid :)
so now that we are all on the same page, has anyone ever shot a black bear with a rifle chambered with the 7.62x39 rifle round.

MD_Willington
August 11, 2009, 12:48 AM
They get "bushmeat" with AK's in the Congo... & I don't mean fowl, monkey, nor feline either...

Probably work on a black bear...

JAV8000
August 11, 2009, 01:36 AM
7.62x39 would be ok on black bear with good placement. Having fast followup potential with the AK design makes it nice, though I'd prefer at least a .30-.30 with 175 gr. SPs.....better penetration.

R.W.Dale
August 11, 2009, 02:04 AM
Where do you find 175 grain 30/30 ammo?

AgentAdam
August 11, 2009, 02:25 AM
154 gr Spitzer SP

lobo9er
August 11, 2009, 08:06 AM
Shooting something as dangerous as a bear is enough motivation to invest in a heavier gun good point

Where do you find 175 grain 30/30 ammo?
i think you can go to any sporting good store dicks etc. i'm pretty sure i have seen that stuff there i used have some 30/30 hollow point stuff

JImbothefiveth
August 11, 2009, 08:16 AM
Does your shotgun have a proper sight for slug shooting?

wnycollector
August 11, 2009, 08:26 AM
A buddy of mine took a 4 point 2 years ago with his Yugo SKS and silver bear SP's down in cattaraugus county. The only mods to his rifle were a set of Tech-sights and a detachable 5 round mag. I think the SKS is a very nice budget deer rifle for less than 150 yards. I think that it may be a bit underpowerd for black bear though! For $100, I would pick up a M/N M44, and load it with some wolf gold 180gr SP's. I think 7.62x54 makes a better bear round.

trigga
August 11, 2009, 03:49 PM
no mag cap here in wi, (for deer at least) i use mines once last year. got a little action but no deer. however my cousin got one with his sks. within range, the 7.62x39 is very capable of taking deer. once using umc hp and second using wolf sp. like any firearm, shot placement is key.
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lobo9er
August 11, 2009, 04:35 PM
nice to see the ak in the woods!

WalkerCountyBoy
August 11, 2009, 04:55 PM
Yea, I took a 5 point with my Chinese SKS which shoots the 7.62x39 last year at about 95 to 100 yards, not to hard. But the one thing a bought bear hunting is you usually don't get real close to them, so if i were you i would buy or borrow someones hunting rifle. Say like a 30-06, a 7MM, or 300 MAG, or a nice 308 just to make sure he drops.

WalkerCountyBoy
August 11, 2009, 04:58 PM
I would be careful about hunting with the AK with that big of a mag in it, if a game warden park ranger catches you with it they can take the gun away. Just like when you go turkey hunting you better have the tube stop for the rounds.

trigga
August 11, 2009, 09:17 PM
I would be careful about hunting with the AK with that big of a mag in it, if a game warden park ranger catches you with it they can take the gun away. Just like when you go turkey hunting you better have the tube stop for the rounds.

***before selecting firearm make sure it meets the legal requirement for hunting***, i was told five was the limit capacity rounds here but i saw people in the woods with various like a 30-30 can hold 7, sks holding 10, then i called the dnr and they said there was no limit for deer. i don't think they will take away your firearm but give you a big fine.

springfield30-06
August 11, 2009, 10:06 PM
Hunting with a center fire semi-auto in NY is limited to a mag capacity of 5 (+1 in the chamber... for a total of 6). Also, NY has a type of 'assault weapons' ban which makes mags manufactured after 1994 that hold more than 10 rounds - no matter what the use is for - illegal. Be sure that the mag cannot hold more than 5 rounds when hunting and don't even bring any 30 round mags at all....

friscolatchi
August 16, 2009, 07:23 AM
Lobo, for a big bad critter that can eat you I would use a big bad rifle. I'm also heading to the Dacks for early bear. This is my first dedicated bear hunt and I'll be at a spot where there is a known bear habitat. I'll be going with a buddy and camping. Personally as a married man with a young son, and hunting a close quarters, I do not want to have to take a third shot. Maybe you have more courage than me but I'm not willing to mess around with anything that can kill me. I'll be using an 1895G in 45-70. Good luck.

jim in Anchorage
August 16, 2009, 08:19 AM
I have hunted in the Adirondacks many times and it is unlikely you will need to shoot anything. Largely gameless. No food for deer there, more moose country but the brain worm the few deer Carry[harmless to them, fatal to moose] keeps moose from repopulating. Where exactly are you planing on going?

MCgunner
August 16, 2009, 10:07 AM
Personally, I prefer accurate hunting rifles that only require one shot. Get close enough and at least the caliber is up to the job. Anything the .30-30 will kill, the 7.62 will with the right bullet. 154 soft point wolf stuff is a bit more accurate in my SKSs. I like that stuff, but I've not shot anything with it except for paper.

friscolatchi
August 16, 2009, 06:44 PM
Jim, I'm headed to North Elba in the high peaks wilderness area. There are a few places where bear frequent . I'm planning the logistics for camping and removal of the carcass should we be so fortunate, as it's a 3 mile hike out on a fire road, no motorized vehicles. I hope to head there one day this week for a recon of the habitat. A few years ago some hunters from Michagan bagged a 500 pound black bear in the same area - exactly where it is I'm not going to be more specific at the moment. I was out there last week and there was scat in a few places. Hey are you the guy who had the building in Ausable Forks? Be well to all.

jim in Anchorage
August 16, 2009, 11:02 PM
Not me with the building. I haven't been in the Adirondacks for 25 years. Straining my memory here, but I used to hunt in the moose river area[I think it was near Inlet]. Pretty country to be sure, but I don't know how you would get a bear except over bait.

countertop
August 17, 2009, 12:10 AM
i was told five was the limit capacity rounds here but i saw people in the woods with various like a 30-30 can hold 7, sks holding 10, then i called the dnr and they said there was no limit for deer. i don't think they will take away your firearm but give you a big fine.

Not for nothing, but WHY DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD??

I know you can read - and write - your posting here. Requirements - regardless of state, are always written down. Check the state hunting bulletin. This isn't rocket science folks.

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