Is it the White Box or is it me?


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ChickenHawk
October 26, 2003, 07:53 PM
I like to buy the 100 round value packs of 9mm (at Wal-Mart).

Every time I shoot a box I have an extra round left over after loading my final 10 round magazine.

I went to the range today and shot 2 boxes. Happened again. Both times.

I count while loading each magazine, and usually count while shooting them so it sure seems to me that I always have 10 in evey magazine.

So, is there [/U]really[/U] 101 in every box, or am I just crazy? :confused:

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

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HogRider
October 26, 2003, 08:03 PM
I had only 99 in my last Winchester white box. You must have got one of mine then :D

Sven
October 26, 2003, 08:22 PM
Been getting 100 most of the time, but got 101 a couple times. Then again, my Glock springs ARE tight and I might have thought the mag was full when it wasn't yet fully charged...

sm
October 26, 2003, 08:25 PM
I buy mine from Sports Authority.
Bought 3 boxes , 102, 102,103 rds respectfully.
No, I don't count rds...but when friends kid is learning to count, and at the range...teach them well I say. :)
Make stacks of five, of ten, count by 2s and 3s...beats the heck out of apples, flashcards and such...all for the kids education you understand:)
Plus .60 a box less.

AUTIGER04
October 26, 2003, 08:31 PM
Do you guys find the White Box ammo inaccurate and troublesome? Ive had several strange incidents with this ammo.:confused:

sm
October 26, 2003, 08:39 PM
Nope
thousands of rds of 9mm and 45 ACP -nary a hitch.
Using P-11s, BHPs, Glocks, for the 9mm and too numerous varieties of 1911 style to list.

ChickenHawk
October 26, 2003, 08:50 PM
Autiger04,

I've put thousands of rounds through both of my Glocks and never had a problem, accuracy or otherwise.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

Top_Notch
October 26, 2003, 08:55 PM
I average 101 rounds in my white boxes. I know because I can't stand unorganized rounds and put them in divided 50 slot plastic storage containers after purchasing them. (Obsessive/compulsive I guess). Those orphan rounds drive me crazy...no where to put them. I'm trying to buy enough white boxes to have the orphans fill their own box.

Never had any problems shooting them.

cool45auto
October 26, 2003, 08:56 PM
Happened to me Tuesday. I went thru three boxes and had 4 rounds left over (I'm keeping count for some reason :rolleyes: ). Also had a friend on www.berettaforum.net mention problems with white box ammo, too.

caz223
October 26, 2003, 09:00 PM
Yup, I use 100 round plastic boxes to keep them organized.
There are more boxes with 101 than 100 or 99.

WonderNine
October 26, 2003, 09:43 PM
I'm sure when the machine dumps them into the boxes it goes by weight so I guess sometimes you'll have 99 rounds that are slightly "heavier" grain or 101 that are slightly lighter grain. And I'm sure the machine isn't accurate to the nearest .000 lbs. :)

forquidder
October 26, 2003, 09:52 PM
You guys must have gotten my rounds. I've only bought 2 boxes of Winchester white box 9mm. One had 99 rounds, the other, 98! :mad:

ChickenHawk
October 26, 2003, 09:57 PM
LOL!

Well, I can't think of a time I ever got a 99 round box, but I can see the day is coming.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

Ukraine Train
October 26, 2003, 10:08 PM
Do they make the white boxes in .40? I'm still debating if the cost difference between .40 and 9mm is negligible.

AUTIGER04
October 26, 2003, 10:16 PM
Yep, 100rds of 40cal are available.

Arub
October 27, 2003, 06:37 AM
I haven't bought any, but if I remember right, the .40S&W, is around $1496 at Wally's (Winchester value packs).

I have bought a couple of their .45auto value packs at $19.86 or $19.96 (good way of getting brass for reloading). 100 counts every time. They pack them in a styrofoam tray with individual holes for each round, sort of like a double deck box of 50.

Dorrin79
October 27, 2003, 11:31 AM
not sure, but I accidentally dropped a box yesterday and got to spend 15 minutes colelcting them from all over the bedroom (wood floors, so lots of rolling action)

I counted 101 when I gathered them back into the box.

ChickenHawk
October 27, 2003, 11:35 AM
They pack them in a styrofoam tray with individual holes for each round, sort of like a double deck box of 50.

Actually, one of the reasons I like the value pack in the 9mm is because they don't do that!

I just dump out the box on the table in front of me and start loading mags. That seems easier to me than having to pick each round out of the styrofoam.

Also, if the box has been bumped around then bits of styrofoam come out of the box on some of the rounds, and then I'm having to brush them off while reloading.

Anyway, just a matter of preference (not to mention the price benefit!)

Regards,
ChickenHawk

Brad Johnson
October 27, 2003, 11:43 AM
Maybe they started counting at zero instead of one. You know 0, 1, 2, 3,... 100. Just like the folks who celebrated the new millenium a year early....

:D

Brad

4v50 Gary
October 27, 2003, 11:45 AM
Maybe instead of using machines or weighing the box, they use high school drop outs instead to fill the boxes.

WonderNine
October 27, 2003, 11:48 AM
The .45ACP 100 round "value packs" for $20 don't seem like much of a value. :uhoh:

10-Ring
October 27, 2003, 02:14 PM
In the last couple of years, I"ve shot 1000's of these rounds. For the most part, they're okay...a little smokey, I've had 2 duds in all the rounds I've shot but the rounds have been acceptably accurate & not too dirty to clean. Yeah, sometimes I get 98, 99, 103, or surprisingly 100! :eek: But for the price, I can over look these blips.

Dr.Rob
October 27, 2003, 03:59 PM
That bulk pack 9mm makes reloading.. well a questionable practice.

Sure its cheaper to reload, but if you factor in the time you could spend reading a good book or playing with the kids or whatever... Ten bucks is pretty darn cheap.

Never thought it was 'dirty' ammo... though the brass jacketed stuff leaves yellow residue on my mag followers. Good stuff.

Bainx
October 27, 2003, 04:12 PM
All of my chokes with my 1911 were with Whitebox. I finally figured it out and switched to Blazer. Yes Blazer [about the same price]. And, no problems since.

Zer000
October 27, 2003, 08:17 PM
I've never got 99 before (knock on wood) although, I did get one with 104 once! I've never had a problem with WWB at all, except for the brass dust I get all over from the "Jacket".

Stevie-Ray
October 27, 2003, 10:25 PM
Do you guys find the White Box ammo inaccurate and troublesome? Ive had several strange incidents with this ammo. Nope. Extremely accurate and dependable in my Glock 26. Play ammo only, of course. Just went through 100 rounds Saturday.

Mikul
October 29, 2003, 03:50 PM
I bought a case of white box. About 8 of the boxes had 101 rounds or more (one had 103). None of them had less than 100.

One box had two near squibs: loads so light that they fired and hit where aimed, but did not cycle the action. Another round felt like it had the powder from one of the squibs in it. I was displeased.

ChickenHawk
October 29, 2003, 07:33 PM
Yikes! I have never had that experience, Mikul.

Just curious, what kind of handgun were you using?

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

Safety First
October 29, 2003, 08:32 PM
50 round box USA white box Winchester totally reliable in my Sig p-239,no failures of any kind...lots of bang for the buck, literally...

foghornl
October 30, 2003, 02:12 PM
Fired about 1,000 rounds of WWB .45ACP in both my Ruger and Springy. Never an issue in with either weapon.

ny32182
October 30, 2003, 02:20 PM
I've fired several hundred rounds of 9mm. One dud so far. No other complaints.

For the price, its impossible to beat, especially considering its store bought. Equivalent to 109 bucks per case, off the shelf, and in smaller quanities if you wish. Only mail order full cases or .22LR can hope to beat that price.

ChickenHawk
October 30, 2003, 04:29 PM
Interesting. A few people have posted having duds. I've never had a single one.

Any chance it's really the handgun? (not trying to start a war)

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

WonderNine
October 31, 2003, 12:33 AM
I've fired several hundred rounds of 9mm. One dud so far. No other complaints.

For the price, its impossible to beat, especially considering its store bought. Equivalent to 109 bucks per case, off the shelf, and in smaller quanities if you wish. Only mail order full cases or .22LR can hope to beat that price.

Funny you say that as I payed $75 each + shipping for my last two cases of 9mm practice ammo. Winchester NATO in LEO boxes. Many cases fired with no duds.

ny32182
October 31, 2003, 09:03 AM
You said:

Funny you say that as I payed $75 each + shipping for my last two cases of 9mm practice ammo.

And I said:

Only mail order full cases or .22LR can hope to beat that price.

I assume by "75+shipping", you mean, mail order. Which falls into one of my original exemption categories.;)

Berg01
November 3, 2003, 11:18 AM
The 9mm ValuePack has given me flawless reliability and accuracy in my Sig P228;

The .40 ValuePack caused intermittent jamming problems in my CZ 75B, although it has been accurate in the gun; since I do not want any gun that is ammo-sensitive, it is presently at my local gunsmith for correction.

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