[Moparmike]

http://cagle.slate.msn.com//news/Halloween2003/halloween/fairrington.gif
I was so mad after I saw this. Just the unmitigated gall(sp?) of people to slander that which they dont know. I feel the incoherent babbling coming on again.:fire:

[Travis McGee]

Yeah, that pretty much pisses me off too. Stupid sheeples are bad enough, but slanderous evil bastards like this "cartoonist" are much worse.

http://matthewbracken.web.aplus.net/snakelogo.jpg

[George Hill]

Where is this guy's house? I need some more .223 ammo! :D

Guys, don't get too bent out of shape over this... It's all the Left has left.

[Standing Wolf]

Another communication from our social and intellectual self-appointed betters.

[BamBam]

I like the lynching noose in the tree.
Notice how gun owners are stereotyped here: noose, gaudy pick-up, broken window, bullet holes in the house, beer gut, Micky Mouse ears, rat on the porch.

[Chairman Meow]

The noose hanging in the tree is what pisses me off. I don't mind somebody calling me a gun nut because I like guns, in fact it makes me smile. :D However, I am liable to punch a man for telling me that gun owner = racist. Damn propagandists.

[CZ 75 BD]

draw for. Which newspaper?

[forquidder]

"I like the lynching noose in the tree.
Notice how gun owners are stereotyped here: noose, gaudy pick-up, broken window, bullet holes in the house, beer gut, Micky Mouse ears, rat on the porch."

Don't forget the coat hanger TV antenae on the roof :rolleyes:

[Justin]

The cartoonist is obviously a bigot. I wouldn't give him any more thought than any other bigot.

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

Is that a redwood deck in front of the trailer? Not even a double-wide!

[Bill Hook]

Forquidder got there first.

I was gonna say look how this guy ties in pick-up owners, trailer homes, gun and racism (and patriotism - see the American flag). If you're any of these, in this guy's mind, you're probably another. After all, gun owners are poor, uneducated, racist, out-of-control, xenophobic, blindly patriotic, yadda-yadda-yadda. :rolleyes:


Still, I wouldn't get too mad. I've seen a few unintelligent posts here and there about the antis, that, were the same individuals to spout off to the cartoonist or authors of these cheap shots at the NRA, gunowners and the 2nd amendment, it would only serve to make the majority of us look bad. The only folks who should be responding to these guys are the ones with thick skin who don't let their dander get the best of them.

[Wildalaska]

Just another in the long tradition of political cartoons...

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[RocketMan]

A pretty silly bit of nonsense.
Not worth the time to work up a sweat over.

We know what kind of people we are. Just keep up the good work of getting the word out, bringing others over to our side.

[Matt G]

"Non-traceable, armor-piercing two-twenty-three ammo"?

As opposed to the "traceable" kind?!? :confused:

[XavierBreath]

My non traceable ammo gets traced by my tracer ammo.

Political cartoons are satire. Like other satire, they tells us as much about the artist as the subject. I'm feeling a bit of a sting, but it is offset by my laughter at the artist's ignorance.

[Sportcat]

I'd feel safer if this guy were my neighbor! :D

[Waitone]

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, . . . . . ."

[Old Fuff]

Looks to me like something out of a very liberal paper in one of the big cities.

One of these days some terrorists will mess up their nest, and law & order will disappear.

Then we’ll see what song they sing …….

[PAshooter]

Gotta agree with RocketMan & XavierBreath: sure, my initial reaction is one of anger, but garbage like this says everything about the ignorance and bigotry of the cartoonist (and the paper that prints such trash) and nothing about me... about us - the kind of folks who make up THR. The shoe doesn't fit... I'm not even trying it on. So what's to get steamed about? We know who we are - this fool clearly does not.

It's obvious to even the most casual observer how widely this guy missed the mark in his depiction of the "typical" gun-owner... he forgot the "Stars and Bars" in the back window of the pickup :D

Moron!

[Werewolf]

The problem with cartoons like this is that 1) They get the attention of those who otherwise don't know the issues and couldn't care less if they did; 2) the sheeple believe it and 3) the sheeple outnumber us about a 100 to 1.

I'd like to e'mail the author or snail mail him and respond to the blatantly incorrect stereotype he portrayed with some demographic statistics regarding gun owners. I bet he'd be surprised - or maybe not - he just wants to get rid of guns - he's obviously not concerned with fact or truth.

Anyone know how to contact the guy?

[Carlos Cabeza]

Should I rethink my halloween party costume choice of POLICE sharpshooter ????? Nahhhhhhh, things can be used for purposes of good as well as evil .............................:cool:

[tiberius]

I posted this in teh contest thread, but here's some pro-RKBA cartoons to make you feel better.

http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/StayskalGUNS/main.asp

[cracked butt]

The cartoon is no different than Nazi cartoons of Jews in the 1930's.

[PAshooter]

Mr. Butt said it better than any of the rest of us. Amen.

[4v50 Gary]

The only thing the cartoonist could have done to make it worse was to make the dwelling place a trailer, no, look at the roof line. It is a trailer. Scum cartoonist. :mad:

[zahc]

I posted this in teh contest thread, but here's some pro-RKBA cartoons to make you feel better

I'm having trouble finding the pro-RKBA message in this one.

http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/StayskalGUNS/StayskalGIFS/8.gif

[Topgun]

but it's just as valuable a RIGHT as our right to keep and bear arms.

Just like flag burning. Not MY cup of tea, but one of the reasons I live in the US.

Freedom to draw, burn, or SHOOT anything we want.

That's what I believe in.

:)

[mainmech48]

Welcome to the Wonderful World of Media Consolidation! Get ready to see this sort of elitist drivel on a daily basis in your own local rag.

The "Indianapolis Star" used to have a relatively balanced, rational editorial policy when it was still Pulliam family owned. You had columns from the usual gang of Urban Lefty Elitists, but they were side-by-side with the Conservative viewpoints of William Safire, Walter Williams, George Will, William F. Buckley, etc.

Gannett bought them out a couple of years ago, and began replacing the managerial staff with Politically Correct corporate drones. Since Barbara Henry was installed as President and Publisher, the entire "Opinion" (Editorial) section now displays all the balance of a DNC fundraising party.

The only time you'll ever see anything from anyone on the other side of the political spectrum is when and if they post a column which criticizes some facet of the current Administration's policy. Occasionally, we'll see something from Michelle Malkin but only if she's on one of her "Another INS Failure" rants. Jeez! Even Gary Varvel's cartoons have changed radically in tone and content.

Now that the way is clear for virtually every non-internet news outlet in the country to come under the control of one of the five or six members of the Media Cartel, BOHIC(A)!

[tiberius]

I'm having trouble finding the pro-RKBA message in this one.

Me either, but it is kinda funny.

The vast majority of those by Stayskal are very pro-RKBA. I suggest you look them and not pick nits. :)

[PCRCCW]

Heres the Cartoonist Email addy................

BFair97@aol.com <BFair97@aol.com>

Shoot well................................

[Waitone]

So how come RKBA groups don't have an obnoxious cartoonist. Talk about fertile ground for subject matter. Imagine what an enterprising cartoonist could do with Feinstein and her pistol packin' tendencies. How 'bout Rosie O. Better yet, how 'bout Chuck Schumer and some of his idiocy.

The pro-selfdefense community needs a good cartoonist.

Hey, Oleg. You know anyone who can draw????

[Chuck Dye]

Leave the demagoguery and recreational hysterics to the antis.

[Dr.Rob]

The second amendment is a guarantees the first.

Without the first THE people can't spout off on rooftops, in editorials or via cartoons.

THE most significant 1st amendment lawsuit of recent memeory invoved a cartoon/satire. Read up on The People vs. Larry Flynt.

I don't care for the cartoonists "message", I strongly defend his RIGHT to say it.

[Mark Tyson]

Despicable.

I wonder if the cartoonist would be so eager to show an inner city minority handing out guns. Of course not, there's no violence in the inner city.
It's just those conservative white trash from the country you have to worry about. You know, THOSE PEOPLE.

[Atticus]

At least he got the rifle and caliber right. Maybe part of his brain is undamaged.

[clem]

Here is my e-mail:


"Hi,
I did not injoy your cartoon.

I'm the NRA and,
I'm the retired U.S. Marine and,
I'm the police you watches over you.

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXXXX
Detective
U.S. Marine Corps Retired
Life member NRA

[Nightfall]

Anti-gun bigots like this ‘artist' have to spout propaganda because they simply lack the ability to engage us in calm, logical debate. Their lack of substantial evidence compared to what we can present in an argument makes trying to win the hearts and minds of the general populace through intelligent discussion the equivalent of trying to shoot with an empty chamber; they have no ammo. Emotional trash like this is their only option.

Unfortunately, their audience is all too often willing to accept what they are told with no questioning what-so-ever. :(

[clem]

And the artist's reply:

"Well,
I was a member of the NRA,
My father is a retired colonel USAF,
and my best friend is a police officer.

None of this takes away from the fact that we have too many guns in the
society and that gun ownership comes with responsibility. The NRA believes that we
should have guns at any price, despite the fact that gun related deaths
increase every year...I think the NRA's attitude of "we have nothing to do with
this" as being quite irresponsible"


Then I ask him:

And this makes you?????????????

And he replyed again:


"it makes me a citizen who has the right to criticize an organization like the
NRA who I feel could be more responsible with regard to guns and the
violence and death that result in their misuse."

I grow weary of these idiots.

[Moparmike]

Restricting the law-abiding citizens from having guns or other objects because criminals misuse the guns is not the right correct thing to do. Increasing the number of law-abiding citizens properly educated to do so is the correct thing to do, and also the goal of the NRA.

I would love to write this guy, but it would only serve to annoy me further at his lack of knowledge of the truth.

[Don Gwinn]

Would someone please ask him (or tell me) what is the propaganda significance of the Mickey Mouse Ears? Is that some kind of grave liberal insult, or something?

I've experienced that before. A vegan college professor once called me a killer carnivore, and I'm pretty sure she thought that would hurt my feelings.

[PAshooter]

The cognitave dissonance exhibited by these people is a never-ending source of amusement for me.

Picture this: a pair of black muslim thugs go on a killing spree in and around our nation's capital.

If I use this incident to characterize all law-abiding black people as sub-human criminals I'm a bigoted racist.

If I use this incident to charactize all law-abiding white gun owners as sub-human criminals I'm making valid political commentary.

To make either generalization is clearly seen for what it is by all those capable of rational thought: ignorant and repulsive.

Welcome to the world of PC - where rational thought is given no quarter.

[greyhound]

At first I wasn't offended, but like a Democrat and the war with Iraq, I reserve my right to change my mind.:D

What's up with always portraying gun owners as fat?:mad:

[Phantom Warrior]

"Non-traceable, armor-piercing two-twenty-three ammo"?

As opposed to the "traceable" kind?!?


You missed the best part...

"Some non-registered , non-traceable, armor-piercing two twenty-three ammo...blah blah blah "

Registered ammo????? I know traceable ammo has been proposed, but registered? I won't even bother saying anything more because this cartoon is so far off base it's not worth the time.

[MonkeyMan]

The only thing that made me mad was he forgot my satellite dish.:fire:


HEY!! WHERE'S MY SATELLITE DISH MORON?:cuss:

:D

Sheesh, a coathanger.

[Gordon Fink]

Actually, ammo registration could be used as a keep-BATFE-buried-in-paperwork tactic. Of course, then Congress might just “defund” the registration process, effectively blocking all ammunition sales.

~G. Fink

[grampster]

I sort of wonder what the media reaction to this cartoon would be if the drawing of the adult was altered slightly give him a large, hooked nose, semitic eyes, large lips and he started his comment off by saying Oy.......

grampster

Oops, sorry, I didn't read all the posts.....MDshooter said it better than I.

[MicroBalrog]

Dear Sir!
An American associate of mine has provided me with a link to your cartoon.
I have to say that I do not agree - in fact strongly disagree with the message. You have tried to create a strange association between the NRA and some "souther-pickup-driving-violent-racist" image. You have also tried to create an association between gun ownership and violence. Well, I live in a country where private ownership of weapons is almost outlawed, and let me tell you this: First of all, you're wrong -there's no scientifically proved connection between America's comparatively liberal gun laws and violence. Second, your cartoon is absolutely distasteful. Not because I agree or disagree with it, but because it attempts to generate hatred towards a group because of their belief, and this is the kind of thing my ancestors have become, unfortunately, too familiar with.
SY,
IDF Private Boris Karpa,
Bat-Yam, Israel

P.S.I'm a supporter of the U.S. Second Amendment, and I wish my country had one.

[Daniel T]

MicroBalrog, that was awesome. If that doesn't open his eyes, nothing will.

[zahc]

Yes, you absolutely must send that! Perfect.

[Moparmike]

Excellent Micro! You have to send that and let us know of the replys. Hell, if he starts "seeing the light" of truth, give him a link here and ask him to read up (taking each post with a grain of salt) and post here seeking knowledge.

"We must all hang [and teach] together, or surely we will hang separately."

[Dionysusigma]

"Sticks and stones may break my bones. . ."

But .223 just stings? ;) :rolleyes: :o

Never mind...

I don't get the Mickey Mouse ears, the kid's clown mask, or why the author didn't use 5.56 instead...