I have a CZ 75 and a 1911. I have an itch for a 22 conversion. Maybe eventually one for each. Both are shot equally.
So the questions is, which one gets to share a 22 upper?
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August 15, 2009, 03:51 PM
Kimber makes a nice 22lr conversion for the 1911 and it works flawlessly.
August 15, 2009, 06:08 PM
My Kimber conversion would only run on CCI Mini-Mags until I installed a light hammer spring and ran nearly three bricks through it. It will now cycle reliably with several brands of 40 grain solids, but hollowpoints still need not apply. The two Ciener units I had (until the burglar got them) ate everything I fed them without trouble and were both more accurate than my Kimber is.
August 15, 2009, 06:24 PM
Does the Kimber or Ciener slide stay open after the last shot?
may be a pointless question. the problem will come down to what works on YOUR 1911 frame. i have a wilson conversion that works well on one frame-only. suspect that slide fit to the frame is the defining issue. a good recomendation for kimber, IF you own/plan to own their frame.
as stated above, the 40gr winchester plated round nose is more reliable in MOST conversions. again, what works for YOUR unit. wilson recommends this load however.
also, as above, get a new, lighter mainspring. better still, build up an entire housing to ease changing over. best bet is a colt gold cup spring, lightest i could find at 13lbs. this will reduce the energy required to cycle the slide completely. got mine from brownells.
another consideration is magazine costs. haven't been in the market for a while, but there used to be a large gap between mfgr costs for same.
August 15, 2009, 06:56 PM
I know Ken. I like the CZ route over the 1911, except for the price. Those things have really gone up over the last year +.
August 16, 2009, 09:34 AM
Marvel..... 1st generation IF you can find one, 2nd generation if you can't. Mine is on a dedicated 1911 lower (Essex with everyone's parts in it that I had in the "spare" parts box) makes it a little more enjoyable to use.
August 16, 2009, 11:11 AM
I have a 1st gen Marvel and with standard vel CCI it works great.
August 16, 2009, 12:01 PM
The 1911 setup is an early Ciener, and the EAA one is from EAA / Tanfolgio. Neither of them have really been tweaked, nor sorted out for a preferred ammo. They were bought mainly / originally to provide transition to centerfire semiautos for Basic-type students and summer campers.
The Ciener was barebones, so I had to add an adjustable sight; the Tanfolgio has their "SuperSight" nicely dovetailed in, low. The Ciener goes on a built-up SA NM frame; it has a mediocre rail fit. The Tanfoglio, OTOH, goes on the Elite Match like it fit at the factory--but it has minimal machine finishing and needs some polishing.
Of the two, I would rather swap top ends on the EAA--those are quick and easy to do. I imagine a Kadet would swap equally easily on to a CZ-75. On my SA1911, I run a FLGR, so the switchout is noticably more complicated.
It's a tossup, kind of--but my preference leans to the CZ-75 switchtop routine, I guess. added on edit: As for the 1911 switchtop, I would probably now get a Kimber, but I would also see how the slide-frame fit was with the specific unit and my 1911 frame.
August 16, 2009, 01:42 PM
I just picked up a Tactical Solutions 2211 - here's my range report (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=469086) and first impressions.
August 16, 2009, 01:53 PM
Neither Ciener nor Kimber conversions have last shot slide lock. To the best of my knowledge, no 1911 conversion does.
August 16, 2009, 04:36 PM
BobMarvel/AdvantageArms/STI 22 conversion lock after last round.