Co-worker MURDERED


Walther P99
January 19, 2003, 12:05 AM
Someone who works in the same department I do was missing since Nov 25 and the police found her charred body a few days ago. She died from blunt trauma to the head that the authorities said was "a product of rage", and her body was taken to a remote location and burned. All the evidence points to her husband and the DA has charged him with her murder.

She was planning to divorce her husband, and I read that she was going to file a restraining order against him. Although the exact details of the crime aren't yet known, it's too bad she didn't have at least a ".38 special" restraining order ( ;) ), maybe she'd still be alive...

Although I didn't work directly with her, she was always friendly to everyone. The entire office is in shock and disgusted with the apparent guilt of her husband. She left behind three boys, ages 11, 9, and 5.

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January 19, 2003, 12:14 AM

January 19, 2003, 12:18 AM
Unfortuneately, life in any Metropolis will have stories like this :banghead: At least it sounds like they have a suspect in custody & you live in a state that sees execution as a viable form of punishment.

Mike Irwin
January 19, 2003, 12:23 AM
Similar thing happened last year to a former coworker, who was 22.

The father of her child, with whom she was going through a nasty parting, killed her, then himself, with a shotgun.

In front of their 2 year old daughter.

January 19, 2003, 01:09 AM
Very sad. I wish we didn't her these horrible stories more and more often. Hopefully, someone contemplating this type of crime will change their mind.

Walther P99
January 19, 2003, 02:13 AM
& you live in a state that sees execution as a viable form of punishment.

That's what I was thinking but the newspapers say that the charges don't carry the death penalty, the max he can get is 99 years in prison. :confused: From the portion of the evidence that's been made public, it definitely sounds like pre-meditated murder. From what I understand, I thought that definitely qualified for the death penalty...

January 19, 2003, 02:45 AM
IIRC, the death penalty can only be given in "capitol" murder cases. I'm not sure what qualifies, but I think you have to do something above and beyond plain ol' homicide.

January 19, 2003, 03:19 AM
:cuss: :fire: :mad: :(

So Dad bumps off Mom leaving three boys. I wish people would figure out if they're going to get along before breeding.... :rolleyes:

January 19, 2003, 03:24 AM
Arrgghh, I hate to hear this. Kids--darn kids get the brunt of the deal, what a bummer.

January 19, 2003, 09:49 AM

You ARE correct... This guy will see life in prison at the most... Maybe we need to re-evaluate our death penalty provisions???

January 19, 2003, 10:01 AM
It amazes me that these idiots think they can get away with this ...Just like the case in Modesto CA, the husband is looking very bad at this point. Poor kids. There lives have changed from this point on. Let him rot in prison forever...


J Miller
January 19, 2003, 10:03 AM
In this situation, if the husband / murderer is to get life in prison, he should be handed a large hammer, and spend 12 hours a day in a hot dirty rock quary bustin rocks, 24 / 7 / 365.
No TV, no library, no air conditioning, no comforts at all.

Just my 2 bits worth.

January 19, 2003, 10:10 AM
If we as a society deem it necessary to put people away for 'life' instead of execution where execution is entirely reasonable, then we ought to have mercy on survivors and victim's relatives by exempting them from taxation while the perp is locked up.

I just do not see the justice of putting someone away and then tax the victim or the victim's survivors to support the perp. Smells like slavery to me.

4v50 Gary
January 19, 2003, 10:58 AM
With divorces being granted so easily today, there's no need to resort to violence to "separate" oneself from a spouse. I'm with J Miller on this. 24/7/365 busting rocks.

David Scott
January 19, 2003, 11:55 AM
This kind of thing makes me furious. Since I oppose the death penalty, I think what we need is something like the Devil's Island system for such cases. Find a miserable environment, miles from anything, for a full-isolation hard labor camp, and fill it with all the violent, life-without-parole scum. Require them to break X amount of rocks, or clear X amount of swamp, or whatever, for their daily food. No TV, A/C, video games, etc.

January 19, 2003, 03:34 PM
I used to work with a woman of questionable ethics. They found her cut up and stuffed in the trunk of her car. No matter what she might have done, she didn't deserve that. :(

January 19, 2003, 03:54 PM
Very sad. Especially for the three kids. Sometimes I wish public stonings were still legal.

There was a woman at my workplace right before I started working there that was murdered by her boyfriend. He was a state trooper. Then he shot himself.

Walther P99
January 19, 2003, 06:48 PM
In this situation, if the husband / murderer is to get life in prison, he should be handed a large hammer, and spend 12 hours a day in a hot dirty rock quary bustin rocks, 24 / 7 / 365.

I definitely agree.

Standing Wolf
January 19, 2003, 09:18 PM
It costs more to keep a murderer in prison for a year than it would to send a deserving young person to virtually any college in the nation.

I'm no advocate of free education at government expense, but it seems to me we ought to reconsider our priorities.

January 19, 2003, 09:46 PM
A friend told me his Grandfather took his dad (who was like 10 or 11 at the time) and brothers to town to watch them hang a horse thief (last man hung here) . His father said the memory of that helped him make the right choices in life on several occasions when he might have been tempted otherwise.

January 19, 2003, 10:06 PM
I wish people would figure out if they're going to get along before breeding....

They were getting along, that's how they got to the breeding part. Making sure their breeding partner is mature and rational would solve many of these problems.

January 19, 2003, 11:57 PM
Restraining orders usually work better, when there's a hollow point enforcing it..

Sorry to hear... Email this to the Sara Brady's and get their comments...

January 20, 2003, 01:41 AM
What sad news. Restraining orders only have a function as documentation of the problem, should it continue or escalate. They do nothing to deter someone bent on harming someone else. If there's an immediate threat of harm, a protection order is quicker to obtain and carries a better response from the police. You can't rely on either, though.

January 20, 2003, 04:50 AM
In front of their 2 year old daughter.

This is why God made hell.

My mom taught 1st grade at a small christian school about 10 years ago.

A lady tried to hide from her husband - hid at friends house with boys. Husband located her. Burst in with shotgun - horrors in front of little boys.

Believe in hell.

January 20, 2003, 04:58 AM
It's too bad he can't be exicuted 4 times. Once for each of the lives he destroyed. :fire:

At the very least, he should get the Gary Gilmore treatment.

January 20, 2003, 05:44 AM
I regret that he has but one life to give to his country....

Matt G
January 20, 2003, 06:36 AM
Texas Penal Code:Sec. 19.03. CAPITAL MURDER.
(a) A person commits an offense if he commits murder as defined under Section 19.02(b)(1) and:
~ ~ (1) the person murders a peace officer or fireman who is acting in the lawful discharge of an official duty and who the person knows is a peace officer or fireman;
~ ~ (2) the person intentionally commits the murder in the course of committing or attempting to commit kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, or obstruction or retaliation;
~ ~ (3) the person commits the murder for remuneration or the promise of remuneration or employs another to commit the murder for remuneration or the promise of remuneration;
~ ~ (4) the person commits the murder while escaping or attempting to escape from a penal institution;
~ ~ (5) the person, while incarcerated in a penal institution, murders another:
~ ~ ~ (A) who is employed in the operation of the penal institution; or
~ ~ ~ (B) with the intent to establish, maintain, or participate in a combination or in the profits of a combination;
~ ~ (6) the person:
~ ~ ~ (A) while incarcerated for an offense under this section or Section 19.02, murders another; or
~ ~ ~ (B) while serving a sentence of life imprisonment or a term of 99 years for an offense under Section 20.04, 22.021, or 29.03, murders another;
~ ~ (7) the person murders more than one person:
~ ~ ~ (A) during the same criminal transaction; or
~ ~ ~ (B) during different criminal transactions but the murders are committed pursuant to the same scheme or course of conduct; or
~ ~ (8) the person murders an individual under six years of age.
~ (b) An offense under this section is a capital felony.
~ (c) If the jury or, when authorized by law, the judge does not find beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of an offense under this
section, he may be convicted of murder or of any other lesser included offense.

Sentence for Capital Murder in TX is Life or Death.

It doesn't look to me that this one would qualify.

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