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atbarr August 22, 2009, 09:48 AM http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=254&issue=011
This group "Mayors Against Illegal Guns", wants to stop your right to carry concealed. They want to close the gun show loophole, and if your unlucky enough to have the same name as someone on the "terrorist watch list", then the “Terror Gap” bill could stop you from owning or buying guns in the future.
Please write your mayor a polite letter and see if you can change his/her mind. If they wont, then do your best to fire them in the next election.
Stay Safe,
A.T.
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highlander 5 August 22, 2009, 10:40 AM I"d write the mayor of Boston but he can hardly SPEAK ,not sure of his reading abilities. Menino's running for his 5th term the cities of Dorchester, Roxbury and Jamaica Plain are war zones and the morons keep voting him back in. I just don't understand.
Yo Mama August 22, 2009, 11:42 AM AZ missed the list! Very happy.
Bloomberg pioneered this garbage, and I think the people of NY may have had enough.
I do wonder if this is the updated list, as some Mayors changed their minds after a few hundred calls.
trickhenry August 22, 2009, 01:10 PM I live in Texas, always have. There are only two dimwits on this list from Texas. And, wouldn't you know it, one is the mayor of my fair berg! (Hurst is a notorious speed trap between Dallas & Fort Worth.) Aaarghh!
z3ro August 22, 2009, 01:22 PM Yay! arizona isnt on there! :)
gimlet1/21 August 22, 2009, 01:32 PM I'm surprised by a few states, like OH and PA seems every town made the list.
hso August 22, 2009, 01:54 PM Thanks A.T. for posting this.
Does anyone have an example of a well worded, polite, persuasive, BRIEF letter that can be sent to the mayors in question (or their competitors/news papers)?
coloradokevin August 22, 2009, 02:04 PM Can you share some information explaining exactly what "Mayors against illegal guns" are seeking to accomplish? In other words, are they trying to lobby for legislation to be passed at the national level that would restrict gun use/ownership, and if so, what is the text of that legislation?
As is typically the case, the title of their group sounds fairly innocuous, but I've been around guns for long enough to know that this is rarely the case. Still, before I consider a letter writing campaign on my end, I'd like to know exactly what I'm protesting!
kd7nqb August 22, 2009, 02:05 PM There are only 2 mayors on the Oregon list and mine is one of them. The sad thing is that I voted and campaigned for the guy because he is a good business friend of my Mother. However he will be getting a letter and I promise that the next time I run into him I will try and pull him aside.
Mr. Doyle, you have been in the news much lately dealing with your recent push to bring the Portland Beavers to Beaverton. Even though the Biggi family are friends of mine I must say that I disagree with their position and would love to see the added business traffic by a baseball stadium in Beaverton. I truly feel that it would be a major step towards turning us from merely a suburb to a rising city on the West Side. Of course I do have some worries about cost overruns and other logistical issues but feel that the idea is a good one. I also feel that your experience will allow you to make the tough decisions to make this proposal happen. I am a firm believer that these sort of projects can be watershed moments for communities, and at this point in time when so many industries are struggling I feel that this sort of infrastructure could allow Beaverton to buck the trend of cities driving themselves deeper into financial issues.
Unfortunately another of your positions deeply bothers me. You are listed as a supporting member of the group "mayors against illegal guns" as I hope you know this groups name is incredibly misleading. This group has taken positions against such key issues as Concealed Carry and inter-state reciprocity. Including the recent Thune amendment which would have made my Oregon CHL on par with a drivers license. While your intent may have been to take a political stance against the issue of gun trafficking what you have done instead is damaged your reputation with the proud gun owners of Beaverton. As I am sure you are aware, you are one of only 2 mayors in Oregon on the list, the other being Mayor Piercy from Eugene. I urge you to rethink your position and hopefully have yourself removed from the list. Since the list does not provide individual reason and only a list of names, if you feel that you have a sold reason for being a part of this group I would gladly read your reply.
I would also like to add that I was a strong supporter of you in your recent election mostly because of your friendship with my Mother, and your work on the city council. However it would be extremely difficult for me to support anyone who was a member of such an anti gun group. If you maintain anti-gun positions I will be forced to support another candidate when you come up for re-election.
Sincerely,
Zoogster August 22, 2009, 02:11 PM I'm surprised by a few states, like OH and PA seems every town made the list.
Not really. OH and PA have a very large blue collar unionized work force that votes democrat, but still like thier guns.
Unions are massive Democrat voting blocks.
Many of thier politicians are therefor Democrats, and Democrats are in general the party that supports "common sense legislation" and repeats and enacts the logic of the Brady Bunch.
So they have this strange situation where many of the voters themselves, especially those from rural and suburban areas often like thier guns, but thier leaders, large urban cities, and thier elected party does not.
The entire region from Chicago to Boston down past New York City into New Jersey has long been the strongest anti gun portion of the nation. There is many rural pockets in between, but numerically they are vhastly outnumbered.
Interestingly enough it correlates fairly well with the presidential voting tally.
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html
(Click county bubbles, and make them as small as possible The bubbles represent the population to scale.)
Zach S August 22, 2009, 03:36 PM Yep. I don't know why I even bothered looking.
Ironically, there is a gun show in Asheville this weekend...
eflatminor August 22, 2009, 04:32 PM It would be waste of time for me to write. The mayor of Los Angeles is not only a NOTORIOUS gun grabber, he advocates socialism and economic fascism. There is so much to hate about the guy, I wouldn't know where to start. He advocates for Latinos in SoCal, which is the only reason he got re-elected...and just barely so. I have to say, Tony Villaretardo, as he's known around here, is right up there with the worst of the worst. Exactly what our founding fathers warned us against. Look out if he ever gets to a national level.
shotgunjoel August 22, 2009, 04:45 PM Nope!
THE DARK KNIGHT August 22, 2009, 05:10 PM To save space on the page they should have just listed the mayors in NJ that AREN'T part of the "Mayors Against Illegal Guns"
SCKimberFan August 22, 2009, 07:34 PM Not my mayor.
tju1973 August 22, 2009, 07:52 PM I was surprised to see the Hurst TX mayor there (between Ft Worth and Dallas), but not shocked with the Austin one....Austin is the hotbed of left wing liberalism in this state, and I would not shed a tear if an errant nuke hit it-- ok, thats not very High Road, but really Austin suffers an anti gun pro Obama bias-- and I think its opinion should not reflect Texas as a whole...
mljdeckard August 22, 2009, 08:23 PM None from Utah. :) (At least none that dared state this position on the record.)
I'm TRULY hoping for an 'F' rating from the NRA this year, with no-permit car carry and workplace parking lot posession allowed.
jimmyraythomason August 22, 2009, 08:27 PM Larry Langford mayor of Birmingham is there. His corruption trial is coming up so it may be a moot point. I don't live in Birmingham but that is the closest to me,I'm 35 miles north.
scndactive August 23, 2009, 03:45 PM Here's a list of mayors on the roll call.
If you live in one of these cities you may want to drop a line to your mayor.
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=254&issue=011
:banghead:Bloomburg:cuss:
mljdeckard August 23, 2009, 06:38 PM (dupe.)
The_Shootist August 23, 2009, 07:48 PM Fancy that - only TWO mayors from Texas on that list - still two too many!
Mags August 23, 2009, 09:00 PM Fancy that - only TWO mayors from Texas on that list - still two too many!
Same here in NM. Wasn it just me or was Utah the only state not represented on that list?
withdrawn34 August 23, 2009, 09:12 PM I looked at that list last night too. Buddy Dyer is on that list! :cuss:
Never liked that guy, anyway.
jimmyraythomason August 23, 2009, 09:31 PM Duplicate thread. Aready being discussed here<http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=5852385#post5852385>
Eschaton August 23, 2009, 09:56 PM Same here in NM. Wasn it just me or was Utah the only state not represented on that list?
Arizona isn't there.
kurt250 August 24, 2009, 03:23 AM glade to see that there are none of those low life mayors here in idaho. left the peoples republic of california in 1990 never regretted it. kurt250
Yellowfin August 24, 2009, 08:59 AM New York has way too many. I can understand NYC maybe, but the rest are inexcusable and must be kicked off the ballot in the primaries which are three weeks away.
LoneCoon August 24, 2009, 11:19 AM Rhine McLynn is, and I don't even have to look. Dayton's kind of a crappy city, though.
DMZ August 24, 2009, 11:52 AM This is what there mission statement says:
"Message from the Co-Chairs
As mayors, our highest responsibility is to enforce the law and to protect the people we serve. One of the most difficult challenges we face in meeting this responsibility is preventing criminals from illegally obtaining guns and preventing those who do get them from using them. The issue of illegal guns is not conservative or liberal; it is an issue of law and order -- and life or death."
But when you scratch that thin but shiny, political veneer, you quickly realize their real agenda is control and regulation of legal guns and gun owners.
BTW, I am a Mayor, but not one of the two listed for OR.
w_houle August 24, 2009, 01:28 PM I expected to see Kansas on that list. I predicted one correctly and two that I thought were going to be on the list were not. Kansas City was to be expected: My other two choices were Junction City, and Wichita due to them being not very gun friendly. Can't say I know the others, but Lansing has that big prison, and you'd just think the mayor of that town would know better.
metallic August 24, 2009, 10:09 PM My mayor is on the list, but I'm more than content with my state's F from the Crazy Bunch
Johnny Dollar August 25, 2009, 01:00 AM Miami's Mayor Manuel Diaz sits "proudly" on the list.
This Democrat Commie keeps getting re-elected by anti-Castro folks.
Figure that out.
Earth to the charlatan Manny.
I"d write the mayor of Boston but he can hardly SPEAK ,not sure of his reading abilities. Menino's running for his 5th term the cities of Dorchester, Roxbury and Jamaica Plain are war zones and the morons keep voting him back in. I just don't understand.
This one is simple.Who keeps putting Ted and Bob back in office since around 1842(or is it 1962)?
Whatever,Mass,NJ,HI a few others are beyond the EMT stage.
Only total anarchy or Hastings,1066 will change the landscape.
Sorry.
sarduy August 25, 2009, 01:36 AM i need to start writing letters to all FL city. :(
Davek1977 August 25, 2009, 05:45 AM Dave Munson, mayor of Sioux Falls, SD WAS a member of this group until recently. He was contacted by Senator Thune when the rumor was circulating that Munson opposed the "nationwide concealed carry" bill Thune was advocating. Whatever the exchange was between them, it brought about results. Afterwards, Munson said he supported Thune's bill, and appearently renounced his membership (or had it revoked??) to Mayors against Illegal Guns. I was relieved to hear this, as he was the sole member of the group in the entire state of South Dakota, a very pro-gun state. Previously, I even submitted requests to local media to cover Munson's membership in this group, as it seemed very odd that a SD mayor would join such a group. My requests were ignored, but appearently Senator Thune's conversation accomplished what I saw as mmy ultimate goal.... keeping this group OUT of SD ENTIRELY
sawhitt August 25, 2009, 08:26 AM Not my mayor (I don't have one being in the country), but nearby, Jerry Abramson, Mayor for Life of Louisville, KY, is a complete uber liberal joke.
Aside from his stance on firearms, his main goal in political life seems to be spending Louisville rich. (For you northerners who didn't follow that, spending yourself rich means, aw heck. Just look at what Obama, Botox Queen, and Desert Tortoise Reid are doing to the nation.)
TOTC August 25, 2009, 10:20 AM There are three in Missouri. St. Louis' Francis Slay, Creve Coeur MO and Kansas City MO. I'm going to focus on Creve Coeur and St. Louis. Francis Slay especially, as he's the longest sitting mayor in the city's history. Time for him to go for a variety of reasons.
mkem August 25, 2009, 11:00 PM arizona isnt there lol
Zach S August 26, 2009, 12:39 PM (For you northerners who didn't follow that, spending yourself rich means, aw heck. Just look at what Obama, Botox Queen, and Desert Tortoise Reid are doing to the nation.)
Yer showing yer age. I haven't heard spending rich in a long time.
ArmedBear August 26, 2009, 01:01 PM there are none of those low life mayors here in idaho
I'm sure the mayor of Moscow has secret phone calls to the group, but would never admit it in public.
HoosierQ August 26, 2009, 01:39 PM I am surprised so many small town Indiana mayors are on there.
But the Mayor of Indianapolis, Greg Ballard-R, retired USMC Lt Col, is not.
conw August 26, 2009, 03:03 PM Feel free to use this, but read closely to see what you need to change.
Mayor Johnson,
I am not in favor of your support of "Mayors Against Illegal Guns." This group has a deceptive name and a hidden agenda, and I didn't think that was your style. You claim to support civil liberties and stand for the little guy, but gun control is unconstitutional, anti-civil-liberties, and only punishes the little guy.
One of the main platforms of Mayors Against Illegal Guns is the abolishing of Concealed Carry laws. Shall-issue Concealed Carry laws have ushered in lower crime rates, or - even in the eyes of the most skeptical statistician - have not raised crime rates one iota in any state in which they have been introduced.
Of course you are against illegal guns. You are against criminals having guns. But passing new laws does nothing to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, because criminals steal guns. Criminals even steal guns from police officers. All that gun confiscation/deprivation does is prevent people like me, a young man with a clean record, from protecting himself and his family.
You're against illegal guns. But are you against me, a law abiding citizen, having a gun? If so, I can not vote for you and I will attempt to vote you out of office and spread the word that, to you, image is more important than substance.
Image or substance. Your choice. Do the right thing.
Sincerely,
shameless August 26, 2009, 03:18 PM HHmmm........my daughter lives in Austin. Guess she will have to come to see me, because I will not go there without my 45's. :cuss:
bababooey32 August 26, 2009, 03:30 PM Shameless - Will Wynn isn't the mayor of Austin anyomre. Lee Leffingwell is Austin's new mayor as of June.
DougDubya August 26, 2009, 05:33 PM Not surprised that the Machine boss was on that list of shame.
Luckily, the mayor of my suburb wasn't on it.
jhco August 26, 2009, 07:01 PM No but close nuff
Bruno2 August 26, 2009, 09:02 PM My mayor is on the list . The only one in OK (the bad news:() . She is quitting and not running for a second term (the good news:) )
chuckusaret August 26, 2009, 10:18 PM The right to bear arms was hotly discussed at my last mens club meeting that I attended. The people that voiced their opinion were both none gun owners, pro gun and many have their CCP. If the Obamanation attempts to remove the right to bear arms they are prepared to organize and participate in demonstrations. The club has a world wide membership, as of August 25, 2009, of 1,544,138 members and growing by the day. I do believe the entire membership would support pro gun demonstrations.
conw August 26, 2009, 10:46 PM chuck...why not start a new thread since this seems like an interesting topic for discussion? I'd be interested to hear more.
goofy grape August 27, 2009, 01:09 AM My mayor (Buddy Dyer in Orlando) is on there of course. I'm all for taking guns out of the hands of criminals, but leave my legally bought and paid for firearms alone!!!
ijosef August 27, 2009, 01:18 AM Of course the mayors of Minneapolis and Saint Paul (Comrade Rybak and Commandant Coleman, respectively) are both on the list.
outlander0129 August 27, 2009, 10:06 AM Glad to see all the Mayors in Nevada are on the right track!
Pushrod August 27, 2009, 10:37 AM No West Virginina mayors (of course), but I was suprised to see only two Maryland Mayors. One of course is Shiela Dixon of Baltimore, hopefully her trial comes up soon and she is removed from the public perview forever.
alsaqr August 27, 2009, 06:43 PM The mayor of Tulsa, OK is on the list.
TheFringe August 27, 2009, 06:51 PM Seattle's Anti-Gun Mayor Greg Nickels is on the list of course. He recently tried but failed to override the State's preemption clause by banning concealed carry in city parks and other facilities.
Fortunately he was just defeated in the primary running for his 3rd term !
metalhd9034 August 27, 2009, 08:05 PM Good ol Jay Williams in Youngstown, OH is.
Bruno2 August 27, 2009, 10:19 PM Yes she is alsaqr , but , she is not running for a second term and the one she is serving is about to come to an end ( not soon enough ):D.
conw August 27, 2009, 11:02 PM So...your mayor(s) are on the list...BUT ARE YOU WRITING THEM? Come on guys.
Bruno2 August 27, 2009, 11:13 PM The primaries are going to be held next month and I am not sure when the actual election will take place , but , it is only months away. I will gladly write the new mayor a letter explaining that we are not an anti-gun state so there certainly cant be very many anti-gun cities and we are certainly not one if there are any .
stonecoldy August 27, 2009, 11:47 PM Hamilton County, Ohio has at least six on the list, which includes Mayor Mark Mallory of Cincinnati, Ohio. Welcome the drain pipe of the septic system of Ohio.
Bruno2 September 9, 2009, 06:02 PM Our mayor is gone and we are off of the list :evil:
The NRA sent me a letter endorsing Tom Adelson a democrat for Mayor of Tulsa .:confused:
Looks like according to the list PA , NJ and FL are worse off than CA
PA has twice as many as CA
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