I've gone through a lot of handguns...


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Armed012002
August 23, 2009, 06:11 AM
I love my rifles and shotgun, but I can't seem to find a handgun I like.

Here's my chronicle :cuss:

Glock 21. This was my first handgun and I bought it for target shooting and home defense. It was reliable, but too bulky and didn't fit my hand. I didn't know better at the time, but my Glock's trigger felt "spongy." I don't care for spongy triggers now that I know what a good trigger feels like :D

Smith & Wesson 66 with 6" barrel. I bought this to replace my Glock 21 for target shooting and home defense. It was reliable, accurate, and had a very nice trigger. However, I wanted to try out other guns, so I traded it.

Smith & Wesson 500. I bought this from a friend of the family that needed money. It was somewhat of an impulse buy. It was fun to own a .50 cal, but I wanted to try other guns more, so I traded it.

Blued Ruger GP100 with 4" barrel. I bought this to replace my Smith & Wesson 66 for target shooting and home defense. It was reliable, accurate, and had a fine trigger. I sold it because after looking at so many pictures of stainless steel custom revolvers, I wanted my own custom revolver. I really, really regret selling this revolver as I really liked it :mad:

Custom Ruger GP100 with 6" barrel. I bought this to replace my Blued GP100 for target shooting. I had this revolver customized by Matt at RevolverArmorer.com. I had Matt do a trigger job and bead blasted finish. It was a really nice revolver, but after looking at so many pictures of 1911s, I wanted my own 1911. Like my other GP100, I really, really regret selling this one too :mad:

Custom Smith & Wesson 686 with 4" barrel. I bought this to replace my Blued GP100 for home defense. Like the Custom GP100, I had Matt do a trigger job and bead blasted finish. I sold this one too, so I could fund a 1911.

Kimber Custom II. I bought this to replace my Smith & Wesson 686 for target shooting and home defense. I loved the clean lines and black oxide finish. It looked great, but would rust if I looked at it funny. I did my best to keep it oiled and cared for, but to no avail. I eventually sold it as it not only rusted, but wasn't reliable either. It wouldn't go through a magazine without a malfunction.

Kimber Pro Carry II. I bought this for conceal carry. Like the Custom II, it rusted and wasn't reliable. It wouldn't go through a magazine without a malfunction.

Colt 1991. I bought this to replace my Kimber Custom II for target shooting and home defense. I never had a problem with corrosion and it was very reliable. It had a very nice trigger. Ironically, after all the trouble of finding a good 1911, I decided I didn't care for them. Go figure :rolleyes:

Colt XSE Lightweight Commander. I bought this to replace my Kimber Pro Carry II for conceal carry. Like my 1991, I had no problems with corrosion or reliability. It had a very nice trigger. I just don't care for 1911s.

Smith & Wesson 642. I bought this to replace my Colt XSE for conceal carry. It was very reliable, but the trigger was somewhere in the 12 pound range and muzzle flip was quite harsh. It was not painful to shoot, but controllability was very difficult.

Smith & Wesson M&P Compact. I bought this to replace my Smith & Wesson 642 for conceal carry. It was very unreliable. Perhaps I got a lemon, but it took three trips to the factory to make this pistol run. Smith & Wesson has good customer service, but I didn't trust it after all the trouble I went through.

Smith & Wesson M&P Full Size. I bought this to replace my Colt 1991 and Smith & Wesson M&P Compact for target shooting, home defense, and conceal carry. Unlike my M&P Compact, this one was reliable. Unlike the nice triggers of my custom revolvers and 1911s, the trigger of my M&P was "spongy." It feels the same as my Glock in that respect. It's not necessarily a bad thing. It just doesn't feel "nice."

I'm looking to acquire a GP100 for target shooting and home defense and an SP101 for conceal carry. I already know I like the GP100 and the SP101 will work for conceal carry with less recoil than my Smith & Wesson 642.

So how about you folks? Am I the only one that's had to spend a fortune to find the right handgun? :banghead:

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scottaschultz
August 23, 2009, 06:22 AM
I am thinking you don't have a range where you can rent guns?

Scott

General Geoff
August 23, 2009, 06:32 AM
Smith & Wesson 66 with 6" barrel. I bought this to replace my Glock 21 for target shooting and home defense. It was reliable, accurate, and had a very nice trigger. However, I wanted to try out other guns, so I traded it.

Well, now that you've gone through a dozen other guns, go back to the Smith model 66. :)

DRYHUMOR
August 23, 2009, 06:50 AM
I noticed you haven't tried Sigs.

22LRFan
August 23, 2009, 07:24 AM
So how about you folks? Am I the only one that's had to spend a fortune to find the right handgun?

Well if it makes you feel better I've recently bought a handgun (Kel-Tec Pf-9) that was unreliable and was pretty much only good for taking a loss on. Seeing as how I'm still only 21, I imagine it will happen again.

Are you set on getting a couple of Ruger revolvers? I can respect someone that likes to stick to either revolvers or semi-autos, but your last two GP100's received a trigger job from a smith. I think if you're looking to get more work done on your next handgun purchase, your options could open up quite a bit. For example, a lot of people like Browning Hi-Powers except for their triggers [insert trigger work here]. Or maybe a Smith & Wesson may end up being cheaper when you factor in the cost of work being done on a Ruger.

Good luck on whatever you pick up.

Action_Can_Do
August 23, 2009, 08:04 AM
You said you can't seem to find a handgun you like, but then say how much you liked some of the handguns you have owned. It sounds more like you can't commit to a handgun. And there's nothing wrong with that. It just puts more used guns on the market for the rest of us.:D

mrt949
August 23, 2009, 08:22 AM
Sounds like you are like most shooters in a candy store. You havent found the sweet one.:D

content
August 23, 2009, 08:41 AM
Hello friends and neighbors// GeorgiaRaised 85, I am sure I only know a fraction about handguns compared to you// I have S&W 586 6" ( reach out and touch someone ) and am looking for a 3" revolver, narrowed them down to an sp101 or 686 P. I like the full ejector rod and sighting capabilities of a 3 inch over a stubby and the versatility of 357/38. Hopefully the semi auto folks will forgive me for prefering "antiques" :- ) I do greatly respect a 16/17 shot pistol . I just think using a revolver in DA in a high stress situation is the way to go for me.// safe carrying.....content.

doc2rn
August 23, 2009, 09:00 AM
I have owned almost all the ones listed above too, but I just held onto a few of the ones that where sweet shooters like the S&W 10-4. Sure I only paid a $125 for a gun with only 30% of blue left but hey she still shoots good. What you need to do now is look at a Sig 232 and a Sig 238. Try handling both and see which one you like best. I would almost bet you find a CCW you'll like between the two. I often forget I am wearing mine. I feel your pain I went through several lemons before I found my nitch too.

bluetopper
August 23, 2009, 09:22 AM
I used to be the same way with women.......I feel your pain.:banghead::scrutiny:

I've been through a wide assortment of hanguns and have settled exclusively on S&W revolvers and high end 1911's.

SaxonPig
August 23, 2009, 09:51 AM
Um... Are you only allowed to own one handgun at a time? I keep buying new guns that interest me but I rarely sell an old one. After 20 years I have a variety of guns to play with and carry so I don't get bored by only having one. I think you need to have more than one on hand so you can rotate them and avoid becoming disinterested.

Here's about half of my collection.


http://www.fototime.com/4A0B54E5804CC11/standard.jpg

bluetopper
August 23, 2009, 10:07 AM
SP......I've known from your posts in the past you were bound to have a slew of em.

I don't see any culls in the bunch either.

Newton
August 23, 2009, 11:21 AM
What you will likely discover is that the search never ends, because even when you find a gun you like, you just get naturally bored with it and move on to something else.

DFW1911
August 23, 2009, 12:16 PM
How about CZ, BHP, Sig, FN, Walther, Beretta, Stoeger, Kahr...to name a few? If a CZ or BHP doesn't feel great, you may be a lost cause :)!

Find a range that rents and spend some time finding the right one.

It's out there.

weisse52
August 23, 2009, 12:34 PM
Find a range that rents and spend some time finding the right one.


That is the best advice for anyone. Renting at a range is much cheaper than the form of "renting" you are currently using....

KyJim
August 23, 2009, 02:24 PM
Here's about half of my collection.
That's why I visit these forums. They counteract my wife's not-so-subtle reference to my "arsenal." :)

As to the original post, looks like you're a revolver guy. Get the GP-100 now and the Model 66 later. Always nice to have a back-up.

janobles14
August 23, 2009, 03:17 PM
LMAO! i just showed my wife saxon's pic of HALF of his pistols. lol now she doesent think mine is so bad! thanks pig! :)

CornCod
August 23, 2009, 04:07 PM
I think our friend from Georgia is running around looking for the perfect handgun. The prefect handgun dosen't exist. All of them have both their advantages and disadvantages. I share his concern for reliability, but issues like "spongy trigger" are best dealt with by regular practice. Awhile back I actually became an acceptable shot with the Heckler and Koch VP70Z, a firearm with an admittedly horrible trigger.

ichiban
August 23, 2009, 05:43 PM
Trying to get one gun that does it all is a lost cause. You should have several guns for different needs. I mean, you've got more than one pair of shoes, right?

Follow SPs lead.

orvpark
August 23, 2009, 06:27 PM
The thing (type?) you don't have on your list is a SA/DA auto. Give a Sig or CZ a try (at the range hopefully!)

amprecon
August 23, 2009, 11:37 PM
Don't feel bad, I've gone through the same thing, I even thought of starting a gun "leasing" program just for people like us :)

cchris
August 24, 2009, 12:34 AM
Seems like your collection is mostly American-made firearms. If you're looking for autoloaders, some of the foriegn ones (Sig, CZ, Beretta, etc.) might be worth a shot.

dom1104
August 24, 2009, 08:26 AM
wow. WOW. I do not have a problem compared to you guys. Yikes. and I was feeling guilty contemplating an AR.


"what will the AR do that my shotgun cant in real life"


forget it, compared to a guy that has 50 odd revolvers, I do not have an addiction.

order me up baby.

Thomas Garrett
August 24, 2009, 10:53 AM
SaxonPig, Your killing me! lol.:cool:

chris in va
August 24, 2009, 07:21 PM
Yup, sounds like me. Only been shooting for ~6 years but been through quite a few.

My latest trade was my 3" SP101 that helped fund my Kahr K9. At some point I realized shooting 357 was impractical for defense (recoil) and toning it down with 38+p was silly as they are essentially the same as 9mm+p, but the Kahr holds four more rounds so I sold it.

The one gun that has stuck with me from the beginning is my CZ 75BD with Kadet kit. It gets used more than anything else I own. The factory grip feels like it was custom made for my hand. It's not a perfect gun, but would be my go-to if I had to make a 75yd shot.

Beagle-zebub
August 24, 2009, 09:01 PM
You said you can't seem to find a handgun you like, but then say how much you liked some of the handguns you have owned. It sounds more like you can't commit to a handgun.

For realz. You need to stop selling the guns you like.

ohioshooter
August 24, 2009, 10:17 PM
i want as many pistols as you have!!!

Armed012002
August 25, 2009, 03:05 AM
I suppose you folks are right. Selling guns for reasons other than poor reliability isn't worth it.

It took me a lot of money to figure that rule out hehe :D

I've decided to keep the M&P Full Size. I think I'll get used to the spongy trigger in time.

scotthsi
August 25, 2009, 09:11 AM
I'm glad I discovered the G19 as one of my very first pistols over 15 years ago. It has never EVER had a malfunction and it is, by far and away, the most shot gun I own. I still carry it to this day. It is reliable, accurate and is ergonomically perfect for me. For pocket carry, for me, nothing beats the Kahr PM9. Again, reliable, accurate and fits my hand well for such a small gun. Not bad for a load of 7 +p 9mm on board. Beats the hell out of my Kel-Tec P3AT. Then there's my Kimber 1911. What a wonderful pistol. It's a hi cap one (13+1), so it's a little bulky, but I do carry it in the winter. It serves as the house duty pistol with the G19 right behind it. Oh, and the Mossberg 500. :D

Just One Shot
August 25, 2009, 09:26 AM
You mentioned that you really miss your Rugers so I would think they would take priority as your next purchase.

On the other hand, if you simply want something different, I would suggest you try out the Springfield XD line.

I have 2, one XD 9 HC and an XD .40 Sub Compact. Both have excellent ergonomics and triggers.

+1 on finding a range that rents guns. Buying and selling to try and find one you like can be frustrating and expensive.

But, if money is no object then by all means continue to do it your way. You seem to enjoy the hunt!
;)

CoRoMo
August 25, 2009, 09:34 AM
Um... Are you only allowed to own one handgun at a time?

Logic enters. Now everyone, say "Hi logic!".

Radagast
August 25, 2009, 08:41 PM
Hi Logic!
I only own guns for gun games (no carry in Australia.)

I went through Glock 17, 19, 17, Para Ordnance P16, S&W 66, 60, 640, 66, 18, Ruger MKII, single six, 22-45, Beretta 92G, Tomcat, 92fs, Bul M5, Bul M5, Webley MKIV,

I'm currently semi content with 1 Glock 17, Beretta 92FS, S&W 66, Bul M5 & Model 18.

I spent more on ammo than on the guns over the years, so I guess I got my moneys worth out of them.

jbkebert
August 25, 2009, 08:55 PM
Saxon if you want to adopt a 31 year old son. I am available and even come with a charming daughter in law and 4 grand kids. Very nice collection. I am jealous

Voland
August 26, 2009, 12:36 AM
A lesson learned a long time ago... NEVER SELL ANY GUN... My first was a sweet Browning Hi-power. I sold it to fund a Kimber Eclipse Pro. Not a bad trade but I didnt like the pro size. Traded it for an early Kimber Clackamas and since then squired another six pistols. I still miss that BHP to this day... I know its hard, but save some cash. Make your own lunch, cut out the Starbucks, quit smoking, donate blood and other fluids, organs...

V.

huntsman
August 26, 2009, 09:09 AM
I sold it because after looking at so many pictures of stainless steel custom revolvers, I wanted my own custom revolver.

It was a really nice revolver, but after looking at so many pictures of 1911s, I wanted my own 1911.

Quit looking at pictures :)

For you maybe the hunt is more fun then the kill, you know it's like Christmas morning over and over again.

As for me, once I got through the Magnum thing I'm at peace:D

searcher451
August 26, 2009, 01:42 PM
Finding a handgun you truly love is no great trick. For example, I've been able to find a host of handguns I truly love. I guess it's no small coincidence that most of them have a Walther banner on the slide. :)

Norinco982lover
August 26, 2009, 02:18 PM
I'm guessing you haven't bought an XD yet. Even a CZ-75 series would solve all of your problems...

I have XD's only. :D

CJ
August 26, 2009, 02:27 PM
So, umm...what DO you want? Maybe make a list of everything important to you, then prioritize each one against the others. Eventually, you'll have a list of what are your top priorities, then pick based on that.

You decided to keep the M&P full size...so is the non-"spongy" trigger near the top of your list? Since you decided to stick with it, hopefully not!

lawboy
August 26, 2009, 03:58 PM
There is nothing wrong. Keep doing what you are doing. It is called enjoying a hobby! And you for sure are having a good time.

Dogbite
August 27, 2009, 02:07 PM
Saxon Pig, nice. I like your taste.

Nuke8401
August 27, 2009, 02:20 PM
At first GeorgaRaised85's list seemed long to me, then I started counting the guns I have bought. Well I think George is just getting started. His only mistake was selling them, I made that mistake once with trading a gun for another. Luckily I learned from that mistake.

Sheepdog1968
August 27, 2009, 02:42 PM
I've bought a few that I haven't liked in the end. One that might work well for you would be the XDm as it has some adjustments you can make in the handle area and it has a more 1911 like feel to it.

Also, Sig has a new pistol that is what I call a leggo gun which you can customize the heck out of it with pistol grip size front and back, as well as caliber, as well as small, med large frame.

PRM
August 29, 2009, 11:02 PM
Dependent on intended use, interest, just can't pass up deals, and sometimes novelty - most collector/shooters acquire, collect, trade, and even sell some guns from time to time. Its part of it - enjoy the ride.

oldhack62
August 30, 2009, 01:20 AM
Forget what you've read about the 'cheap' Bersas, and try one -- in particular (if you can find it!) the UltraCompact 9mm.

Nick5182
August 30, 2009, 01:31 AM
I'm 22 so I don't have much experience in the buying guns field, but in my opinion, if it has a trigger and goes bang, than it's a thing of beauty...other than a hi-point...(and people say GLOCKs are ugly) I've got a Beretta 92fs which I love, a GLOCK 22 which I love, and I'm picking up a Tanfoglio/ EAA witness elite match in .45 in a few days from my local dealer. I traded a Taurus 1911 for the witness, and I was very disappointed in the taurus. My dad has one which shoots amazingly so I bought one...however, with mine, at 7 yards you could barely cover the "group" with a basketball, so i opted for a change. I really don't want to ever get rid of any of the guns I have.

David E
August 30, 2009, 02:20 AM
I love my rifles and shotgun, but I can't seem to find a handgun I like.

Yes you did. Twice.

Blued Ruger GP100 with 4" barrel. It was reliable, accurate, and had a fine trigger. .
I really, really regret selling this revolver as I really liked it

Custom Ruger GP100 with 6" barrel.Like my other GP100,
I really, really regret selling this one too

Two different GP-100's and you "really, really regret" selling them.

Some folks might call that a clue.....

hogshead
August 30, 2009, 07:43 AM
Try a Glock 23 with 3.5 trigger my favorite.

red rick
August 30, 2009, 08:56 AM
I think that you are on the right track now, you know that you like the GP100 and a 3" SP101, with trigger work done will make an good carry revolver.

will919
August 30, 2009, 01:16 PM
Georgia Raised....unfortunately I have experienced the same problem as yourself...and its cost me a small fortune. After all the Glocks, Kimbers, Wilson combats, Les Baer, Rugers, Smiths, Springfield Armory, Kel-Tecs.....and that's not including all the accessorizing I did i.e, Nights Sights Trigger jobs, Match grade barrels, mags fiber optics :banghead: Not to mention the wife's response to my silliness. I have taken a bath on many firearms. Finally, I think I know what I want :confused: :D
Bill

scotthsi
August 30, 2009, 01:26 PM
I'm glad I'm "easy" when it comes to handguns. If it's reliable, I pretty much just keep them as I don't seem to have any difficulty switching between Glocks, Kimber 1911s and Kahrs. I also carry all three types as well. Even my Ruger Mk II 22/45 and Walther PPK/s are well over 10 years old. My first (and most carried) Glock, a G19, was purchased new in 1994 and I never looked back. Still love that gun.

S&W-Keeper
August 30, 2009, 05:39 PM
By all mean, do let us know when you find one that you like.

LightningJoe
August 30, 2009, 05:44 PM
Well, you've pretty much been throught the guns I'd recommend. But maybe you're Glockophile who just hasn't tried a Glock yet.

sheephearder
September 1, 2009, 07:16 PM
after spending over 40 years of looking for the perfect hand gun. It has only taken 200 or so different guns passing through my hands, my needs, wants, and desires still change when I see something different. Currently only have about a dozen that are keepers (at lest for now) but that could,will change . Good luck : Bill PS: it is cheaper to buy use and trade than getting new and taking the loss. Went through a lot of shotguns when I was shooting trap, didn't find the perfect one there either. :(

texas bulldog
September 2, 2009, 01:00 PM
georgiaraised...

i haven't read the entire thread yet, but it seems to me your problem isn't necessarily that you don't like any handguns. it's that you have sold or traded all the ones you actually did like.

a word of advice...
never, never, ever sale or trade a gun! there's just no good reason to do so. when i saw what you wrote about the M66 and GP100, i wanted to cry for you. after putting money into customizing and tuning a gun, that you admit you liked, why why why would you get rid of it?!?!

unless you strongly dislike a gun to the point of hatred, i see no good reason to get rid of a gun. maybe your kids would want it one day? personally, i'd rather give a nice gun like the ones you describe to a friend or relative on indefinite loan that to sell it and regret it later.

Fred40
September 2, 2009, 05:52 PM
I've been through a wide assortment of handguns and have settled exclusively on S&W revolvers and high end 1911's.

That's what I'm talking about.

I'm about to pick up a Fusion Commander Bobtail and a S&W 66

WingRider
September 2, 2009, 10:48 PM
I agree with those who say Keep the Guns, unless you're trading way up.
Saxon: I can only say Wow:what: That is ..... beautiful.
TGAR: Don't you agree?:neener:

sebtool
September 4, 2009, 09:24 PM
Saxon, YOU'RE MY HERO!!!!!:D
(btw, I AM available for adoption as well - you never know when a good machinist can come in handy - like action work on revolvers, etc...!)

Georgia, 2 things - I can't really understand the 1911 thing you were talking about. I hate 1911s as well, becuz' when I pick them up I can't seem to pry them out of my hand!!! Bought a NIB Gold Cup from a retiring FFL back in the Clinton years, and is still 1 of my favorites, next to my Ithaca 1911 that my father carried in Korea, of course;)
When I bought the GC, my only regret is that the fellow had a matching 10mm Delta Elite, and I couldn't have them both:banghead: It only took me about 6 months to pay off the GC, and another 6 to get my wife over it! :what:
But I'm getting better! (at least my therapist thinks so! I told her, it's only a little fetish!:p) I actually picked up a RIA tactical about 2 months ago, and didn't buy it! I did have the shakes for about 2 hrs tho... the saleman only had to whack me on the back of the hand 3x with an old shotgun barrel to get me to let loose that day:scrutiny:

But, what I do understand, is the GP100! They're great guns! I traded a S&W 18-3 for my 1st about 15 yrs ago. Slicked up the action, installed Wolff springs - she was a great shooter. Then traded it on an M1A:banghead: Sound familiar? Well, I'm on my 2nd GP100 now, and she ain't goin' nowhere. She doesn't get shot as much these days, but if I ever need just 1 gun, that's the 1 I'm gonna grab. Stone cold reliable, accurate, and as deadly as I need her to be.;)

And what's kinda funny is that I've been looking for an SP101 in .357 for a few weeks now.... mebbe we were separated at birth? The problem is, I almost need to sell/trade something else to get 1, but I can't seem to go thru with it! Thought I had a rifle traded 2x for an SP101, and both times they backed off....:( Chickens...
The only problem there is that I can't decide on the 2-1/4" or 3" barrel, so I'll probably end up with both....someday....just don't tell my wife!:D

Duo
September 8, 2009, 11:26 PM
you probably should try out the Beretta 92 type pistols. the 92 has variants in .40s&w and in the .22LR. it also has the new 90-two but from what you said about sponginess you woudn't like it.

you could try an IMI Jericho 941- you might like that
Walther P99
H&K USP
SIG 220series
Sprinfield XD
and-although it's expensive-the IMI Desert Eagle has a conversion for 9rd mags of .357, but you can't stick .38 specials in it

but it sounds like you have been shoping aroung a lot in the 1911 design, and you don't like it too much.

there is literally a world of handguns out there, and a lot of them don't have those excessive needless safties that alot of American pieces have. there's nothing wrong with owning a foreign make, you just have to remmember: "we taught them how to do that"

Confederate
September 11, 2009, 10:24 PM
I don't see how you cannot like a Smith 686 4-incher. You might also get a premium Ruger stainless Security-Six, if you can find one. A 4-inch is better for defense; a 6-inch is better for outdoor/hunting.

A Ruger Mark II/III also should be in everyone's collection. The Ruger Single-Six also is a lot of fun. (My first handgun was a cheap RG cowboy .22LR, nickel plated, with crappy brown plastic grips, but it was fun.)

Handguns, like anything else, are personal, and you've already gone through a lot.

jim243
September 11, 2009, 11:03 PM
You need a second job so you can keep some of them the next time you get the urge to buy another one.

1911 Operator
September 16, 2009, 02:09 PM
i have 2 mp's myself, they have been totally reliable and accurate, but was thinking of trading them to try something new.

the trigger pulls do feel spongy, smith should have done a better job with that. the grip, although more comfortable than my glock, has a rather undefined, generic feel to it. it takes some adjusted to get your preferred grip on the mp's.

i don't know what i want, maybe a glock 23, or another 1911, hmmm....:confused:

i had a glock 21 sf at one point, traded it for my mp45 compact which felt better in my small hands.

i sold a ruger vaquero for an xd 45 (that xd was a total piece of crap), which i eventually traded to get the glock 21sf.

yes we all get impulssive and trade what we have for the newest best thing :evil:

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