[scythefwd]

I have a friend that is looking to use his .45 acp Mech-Tech carbine adapter for his glock on deer this year. The thing will put them into a bulls-eye at 75y all day long. What do you guys think on this? Should I suggest something with a little more punch or will this setup work for him? As I see it, the .45 acp has the punch, at least it's real close to it at 100y. From a carbine, I would suspect that it has just a little bit more and that it should be enough. It's either that or the 300 wby, and he is only shooting 75 yards or so.

[dakotasin]

fwiw... it is not legal to use a 45 where i am because it is underpowered. therefore, even though it is legal where you are, i would not do it. really, the 45 acp is not a real powerful chambering... maybe trade the weatherby off for a 7-08?

[PT1911]

I have heard of people using them successfully... I have one for my 1911's, but I doubt it would be a first option for hunting... not saying I would never do it... I would just need a reason to justify not using my weatherby 270, or my Mauser 257 roberts, or my marlin model 30 30-30, or my CZ .223 or my Taurus 608 or any of my shotguns. If for some reason the mech tech was more capable in some situation than any of those options, then I would gladly grab it and head for the woods.

[scythefwd]

dakotasin,
I don't think he is looking to get rid of the vanguard. If he is..I'm the first in line for it:) Hell, if he doesn't use the carbine... I'll let him use my savage .30-30. It'll do 2 inch groups all day long. I was just wondering if I should be trying to talk him out of it or not.

[Husker_Fan]

I would try to talk him out of it. Especially if the only rounds he has are HP or ball. Neither is going to be very suitable to hunting. The .30-30 would be a good choice.

[Yellowfin]

Get him to pick up a used Marlin .30-30. It's cheap enough he can't say he doesn't have the money for it and it's enough fun for him to want to use it as a matter of preference.

[kanook]

if he keeps his shots within his know accuracy distance with a suitable loaded round, why not. There are pictures on here somewhere with a gentleman that has been using his 1911 in 45 for hunting with very good luck. I use my Ruger Old Army for hunting out to 50yds and it works. :D

[Marlin 45 carbine]

useing my Camp .45acp with a +P 185gr GS I blew a good sized chunk of skull and brains out of a 300lb feral hog sow at about 30 yds. DRT, this was from a ground blind and my nephew was in w/me toteing his H&R 20ga 3" mag #2 buck load as back-up.
maybe 'iffy' past about 50 yds IMO.

[jfh]

I'm not a hunter--but from what I know, won't the primary (legal) factor be the State / local hunting laws?

I dunno of many places that specifically allow the .45ACP round for hunting--and for those states whose laws reflect actual ballistics, you might have a hard argument with the warden should you meet him.

Jim H.

[tango2echo]

Legal in my area out of the carbine, not the pistol. Seen a deer taken at 80yds with the Remington 185gr +p XTP. DRT. Would not be my first choice.

t2e

[paintballdude902]

when i get my enfield carbine built im gonna use it for deer but with handloads

[SHOOT1SAM]

Well,

If he's going to do it, and he doesn't reload, I'd suggest to him either a 185 gr. or 200 gr. load from Double Tap Ammuniton:

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_34

They don't really load any "hunting" ammo for the .45 ACP, but he'll be hard pressd to find a harder hitting load than thier's.

BTW, keep us posted if he does-let us know the outcome.

Sam

[scythefwd]

Situation has changed since I posted here last, he might not even be in the state any more when rifle season comes. Life is funny that way. I hope he is.... I was planning on being there on opening day at about 5 AM with my muzzle loader. If he isn't going to live here any longer... it's gonna be a fun BBQ.

[kanook]

I my have over looked it, you need to look at mag capacity restrictions. It would suck to do all the homework and over look the simple mag part.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

I wouldn't do it - it's really handicapping yourself penetration and range-wise. But accuracy is king, and he's accurate with it, so put it in the boiler room and it will work. It's a LOT better than trying it from a pistol.

[Deer Hunter]

It can be done. White tail arn't armored. Just be sure to placed your shot, just like any other rifle.

[MCgunner]

.45ACP has taken deer from a pistol. I know one guy that did it. Keep the range under 50 yards. It don't have a lot more out of the carbine than a pistol, just a little easier to place the bullet in the right spot. Use a +P load for best effect. I wouldn't hunt with it, but that's just me.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Please allow me to edit/expand on what *I* would have said if I had said what you are saying, more or less:

.45ACP has taken deer from a pistol. I know one guy that did it, but anecdotes ain't data. Keep the range under 25 yards. It don't have a lot more out of the carbine than a pistol, but far more importantly, it's a LOT easier to place the bullet in the right spot. I wouldn't hunt with it, but that's just me.

:D :p

[MCgunner]

Well, okay, 50 yards on Texas deer. But, it's a small target. Put a scope on the gun so's you can see it at that range. :neener:

[ArmedBear]

I just ran the ballistics. .45 ACP shoots flat enough to 50 yards. Drops a foot at 100, and well over 5 feet at 200, though.

That said, I wouldn't expect the carbine to let me shoot it any farther away than I would with a 1911.

There's only one reason I can think of, to get a .45 carbine. And I can't remember what it is.

[MCgunner]

There's only one reason I can think of, to get a .45 carbine. And I can't remember what it is.

That's pretty funny right there, don't care WHO ya are. :D

[R.W.Dale]

When the time comes that a .452" hole through the vitals isn't enough to kill deer I'll take up knitting as a hobby. Why I hear some really irresponsible folks kill deer with this cartridge

http://images.outdoorinteractive.net/mgen/290553_oi.jpg

Seriously though you should use hard case lead bullets because you want two blood drain out holes. Avoid personal defense type loads.

[scythefwd]

kanook,
No capacity restrictions on non-migratory animals here :) Hell, even my shotgun is unplugged.

[kanook]

The only reason I asked was in the states that I hunt in, the semi-automatic centerfire rifle can only be used with a 5 round mag ( or altered to only accept 5 rds). As soon as you attach the upper to the handgun, it would be restricted to 5 rounds for hunting. Bolt action, pump, leverguns and handguns are not restricted.

[MCgunner]

Some states disallow pistol rounds shorter than magnum revolver rounds. I'm not sure if that would apply for a rifle and one of the states I'm thinkin' of doesn't allow rifles, anyway, LOL. It's a shotgun only state.

Texas, no problem, 100 round drum in a Auto Ordinance Thompson is legal so long as it's not a fully automatic one. :D Hunt the way Dillinger hunted.