1 : to separate (as grain from chaff) with a riddle : SCREEN
2 : to pierce with many holes <riddled the car with bullets>
3 : to spread through : PERMEATE <a book riddled with errors>
From Websters Dictionary
October 28, 2003, 05:21 PM
remind me to never use the expression: "Riddle me this...."
October 28, 2003, 05:24 PM
The photo seems to show that the rounds were fired at them from behind. Was this an ambush or did the officers initiate the stop by pulling in front of the suspect's vehicle?
October 28, 2003, 05:25 PM
20 bullets? Two suspects? Maybe THAT's why semi's should only have 10-round mags. If the cops wait long enough, the BG's run out of ammo!:evil:
Sorry, couldn't resist.:p
October 28, 2003, 05:26 PM
No further info yet but it does look like an ambush. Looks like they stopped a car, stepped out, and immediatly came under fire. Feel free to post any updates as they come out and I'll do the same.
October 28, 2003, 05:39 PM
You take its billets!
Please, take the cops off the cross. <----- personal, not administrative, comment
October 28, 2003, 06:14 PM
the bill for bullett proof glass in cruisers sounds like a worthwhile idea.... wonder why it hasnt been tried yet.
October 28, 2003, 08:38 PM
That sounds great in theory, but the problem with putting BR glass in cars are several.
First the cost of the glass is a lot. For the larger departments this will add up in a hurry. Especially with budgets they way they are now you would be lucky to get a city council to sign off on that.
Second when you put the BR glass in it is a lot thicker than regular glass so now the windows do not roll down. The air conditioning units in police cars are the same in any regular car and because of all the extra electronic equipment, light bars, radio, computer, etc. the air does not work well at all. In the summer you would be cooking.
Lastly IIRC BR glass breaks down when exposed to prolong sunligh loosing its effectiveness. I can not give any hard or fast details about the accuracy of this, but I have seen it mentioned.
It would be a nice addition, but I don't think that I will see it happen in my lifetime.
October 28, 2003, 08:48 PM
Besides BR glass you'd also need to put BR material into the doors and behind the rear seats as that metal is paper thin. It's a shame that was a Caprice and not a Crown Vic involved.:p
October 28, 2003, 09:33 PM
20 bullets?! That's like a microsecond at Knob Creek. Now when it looks like Swiss cheese, thats riddled. :D
October 28, 2003, 10:56 PM
The key difference, of course, being that when you're huddled behind the car instead of sitting behind the machine gun you have to multiply the number of actual bullet holes by 900 to understand the full effect.
IOW, if you'd been behind the car, you'd have figured it was riddled, too! ;)
October 28, 2003, 11:02 PM
IOW, if you'd been behind the car, you'd have figured it was riddled, too!
I'd be too busy trying to find a new pair of shorts to worry about the car. :o
October 29, 2003, 03:15 AM
Go to like DefCon in Vegas, when they have the "Bill Gates Desert shoot".. and see what riddled looks like..
None of these two did a tactical reload???
October 29, 2003, 04:50 AM
The other problem with armor glass is that it's heavier than the equivalent amount of armor steel (which is why armored trucks are top heavy and you have to be careful in turns so as not to roll them.) It also has to be flat, so wouldn't fit on a typical sedan, unless you want it to cost more than the entire rest of the vehicle and equipment - that's why those custom limousines run about $150K and up.
October 29, 2003, 12:44 PM
You sure it's not just those stick-on things? :evil:
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