I've got a Remington Model 48 12ga Semi Auto that I have listed on this website and a local one for sale. I am Not posting in this section with the intrest of marketing. I am curious What would you say this gun is worth I had a dude offer me $125(the others haven't been far off) which I thought was offencive but maybe I paid too much for it in the first place or maybe some people are just out to steal it. The wood does have it's fair share of dents and dings but the metal is in Great condition. Will you guys tell me what you would pay TOP DOLLAR for this gun if you had the extra cash layin' around? But at $125 bucks I don't need the money at all. It's worth keepin' at that price. Shoot it's cheaper than buyin' a painting to hang over the mantle if that's all I can get out of it. Anyway let me know what you think.
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DaleCooper51
August 26, 2009, 06:18 PM
How long is the barrel and what choke is in it?
I would probably pay $200 - $250 if I saw it in a gunshop and it caught my eye. One thing to think about with selling online is shipping and transfer fees. That will add another $50-$75 on top of the selling price. So online, I would probably pay $150-$200 if I had a need for it.
ArmedBear
August 26, 2009, 06:22 PM
It's a funky old long-recoil gun with a plain barrel that can't just be swapped with another one from Cabela's like an old 1100's can.
I don't know what's "fair", but I wouldn't call the offer "offensive", especially considering shipping and transfer fees. That's probably what they figure they're willing to pay.
Gunfighter123
August 26, 2009, 06:42 PM
I would say THE MOST would be $200 TOTAL out the door.
ugaarguy
August 26, 2009, 06:43 PM
The blue book shows $185 for a 90% model 48 without vent rib. Same gun in 60% condition is showing at $140 in the blue book. Your model 48 is not a 90% gun with the wear on the stocks. Keep in mind those are retail prices, what you'd expect to pay at a dealer, that I've listed. I wouldn't be offended. You have a nice model 48, and you've gotten reasonable offers. ArmedBear's post explains well the reasons they're worth what they are.
Cuzzin
August 26, 2009, 06:46 PM
Ditto on not being offended - just say no thanks if you don't believe the offer is up to the gun's value. Sometimes it is the offerer making a low offer just to see what will happen, sometimes it is someone who is unaware of the gun's value (BTW - that can be the owner as well!).
Just my opinion - but if there are no dings or budges in the barrel, and everything functions as it should - it is probably worth $200 to $300.
ArmedBear
August 26, 2009, 06:54 PM
Just my opinion - but if there are no dings or budges in the barrel, and everything functions as it should - it is probably worth $200 to $300.
You can get an 1100 for that, especially a 2 3/4" only gun, with one barrel and no rib. And with an 1100, you can still buy barrels new from Remington. Some people still like them for skeet, hunting, trap and even sporting clays.
The only reason a 48 would be worth as much as an 1100 is collector value, which I don't know anything about. Seems the Auto 5 gets all the attention in the long-recoil collector market, and the Franchi 48 in the upland game hunting market.
Bottom line? If you LIKE it, it might be worth more to keep than to sell, as they say.:)
earlthegoat2
August 26, 2009, 08:25 PM
I really like those guns but it is true, they are not worth much. Add to the fact that it is a 12 gauge and the bottom really falls out. 200 is fair. Selling cheaper guns online is a losing proposition with shipping and transfer fees baring their ugly teeth.
Lee Lapin
August 26, 2009, 08:35 PM
I got a Mohawk 48 (a newer version of your gun) a couple years ago, over the counter at a dealer's, for about $130 OTD. They're good guns, but an old long recoil design, and people don't chase 'em like they do newer gas or inertial designs.
Keep it, shoot it, enjoy it.
lpl
huntsman
August 26, 2009, 09:32 PM
I’m not going to tell you what it’s worth except to say its way more gun than an 870 express and they go for at least $150.00 used.
Myself I would pay a little better for a FTF sale then from a gunshop ( no paper trail ).
redneck2
August 26, 2009, 09:50 PM
Simple fact is, older wood stock guns with fixed chokes just don't bring a lot. I have a friend that had the chance to buy a NIB Belgian Browning 12 gauge for $650. Still in the original box and wrapper. He turned it down
If you're not satisfied with their offers, keep it.
SuperNaut
August 26, 2009, 10:14 PM
Sounds to me like your closet made the best offer.
austinco2
August 26, 2009, 10:19 PM
Well guys thanks for your opinions. I really thought there was a bigger market for semi autos(didn't think it mattered long recoil, Inertia or gas.) Honestally this is the best shooting shotgun I've ever shot. Where are all the guys selling these things for this little I'd pick one of these up every pay day If I could find these laying around. I'm going to hang onto it and use the tar out of it. I was just looking to get something new, you know the feeling.
ArmedBear
August 27, 2009, 12:32 AM
I don't think these things were that common.
Remington really hit the semiauto market big with the 1100, which dominated semis from the early '60s until the two Italian B's took over 15 or 20 years ago.
troyboy94
August 27, 2009, 12:48 AM
$175 - $200
Shadow 7D
August 27, 2009, 02:24 AM
You might consider the manufacture date, if it is before 59 that opens your market a little to C&R IICR
cchris
August 27, 2009, 02:47 AM
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Then I paid too much, apparently. Mine is in good condition, shiny as can be. I paid $300 which I found to be a decent price - in 2009, in the middle of a gun-frenzy, for a gun which could be potentially banned (under an AWB).
I'd hang on to it. I wanna say mine was made in the early 60's. Never had a single issue with it. Just a tank of a gun. A friend of mine had a Model 11 that he sold, and wishes he'd never let go of it.
$200 now, or an old shotgun to pass on to your kids? For me, it's an obvious choice.
smithmax
August 27, 2009, 07:09 AM
Cchris, I don't think that shotgun meets any of the requirements for the AWB.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
* Folding or telescoping stock
* Pistol grip
* Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
* Detachable magazine
berettashotgun
August 27, 2009, 07:16 AM
I sold a Beretta 1200 on Gunbroker/Auctionarms (can't remember ) for about $275. I was happy. It kicked like the proverbial mule - a pretty mule though......
I believe this same shotgun has been listed EVER since for $450 with no takers. Thinking 2 years now...
What an item is actually worth seems to have ZERO correlation to the items actual VALUE to the gun buying public and dealers these days.
A MILLION gun buyers are salivating at the thought of every person who got caught up in the frenzy - when money gets tight - and they have to dump the low end AR they paid $1200 for, is now actually worth what it always was - around $700 (new) ( - $100 for used).
The price on the Remmy 48 cannot exceed what it cost new - :banghead: - and you shouldn't be offended by any offer.
I guess what I'm trying to say - do you think you might be asking a little much?
kanook
August 27, 2009, 09:41 AM
My 48 is 12 gauge my wifes is in 20. We have shot them to the point that they don't operate properly anymore. I'm looking for replacement parts that are hard to find. If it shoots good (you said it does) keep it until it don't shoot no more.
earlthegoat2
August 27, 2009, 10:04 AM
20 gauges will usually bring a 50-75% premium on these guns. The 410s about 100-150% and the much rarer 28 gauges will usually bring a little more than the 410s. 12 gauges just dont pay.
waterhouse
August 27, 2009, 10:05 AM
The last 16 gauge 48 sold on gunbroker for $183. There was a 12 gauge listed at $199 that got no bids, as well as a reserve auction that started at $100 and got no bids. There is one currently being bid on at $75, but it still has over a day left.
I don't know what top dollar for them is, but I'd probably keep it.
bearmgc
August 27, 2009, 10:34 AM
No, you probably weren't low balled. I have an older Ithaca semi auto shotgun in great shape that's reliable and groups very well. Fixed full barrel. I paid $275. When I got a new shogun, I tried to sell the Ithaca and couldn't get a plug nickle for it. Parts are hard to find for this model, and you can't put a shorter barrel that takes chokes on it. It only shoots 2 3/4 shot. I decided to just keep it.
ezypikns
August 27, 2009, 10:53 AM
that used shotguns (depending on the make and model, of course) are generally harder to sell these days. I'm also not including SD/HD or "Tactical" shotguns in that statement. They seem to be in big demand.
An example I can give is a CZ "Canvasback" (12 GA O/U) which I purchased for several hundred dollars a few years ago. I tried to sell it for what I considered a reasonable price. Very little interest in it. I ended up getting slightly more than a third of what I originally paid.
cchris
August 27, 2009, 12:54 PM
I was referring to a past proposed weapons ban on semiautomatic weapons that included the Remington 1100 on its list. So "AWB" wasn't quite the right term to use.
ArmedBear
August 27, 2009, 01:12 PM
I think that the market varies greatly, depending on the exact shotgun in question.
There are a few sub-markets, different groups of people looking for shotguns and willing to go through the hassle on-line.
1. Serious Competitors. Three-gun, CAS, Sporting Clays, Trap, Skeet, Live Pigeons, whatever. Each person will have a specific want, OR want a gun that can be built into what he wants.
2. Serious upland hunters. This market is also looking for particular things, generally not including 12 Gauges, Turkish guns, no-rib fixed Full chokes, or guns with minimal parts availability. Note the premium for smaller gauges. That's caused by this market.
3. Mall ninjas. See ezpikns' post. Apparently tacticool shotguns sell.
4. Collectors. You never know what might be collectible, but it either is, or it ain't.
(From what I can see, the needs of the vast majority of waterfowl hunters are easily met at retail stores, and recent guns are the best guns for non-toxic shot. There's little reason to deal with the on-line hassle, compared to someone who wants, say, the perfect quail gun.)
That's how you figure out if there's high on-line demand for a shotgun IMO. Run down the 4 sub-markets.
1. Is it a gun that would be used aas, or could be used to build, a competition gun?
2. Is this a gun a discriminating upland hunter would want?
3. Is this gun uber-tacticool?
4. Is this gun collectible?
In the case of the 48, or the Canvasback, the answers are all "No."
You can sell a Krieghoff or a Benelli, I'm sure, an old Model 12, or a nice old Ithaca double or trap single. A newer Browning or Beretta O/U? No problem.
But oddball guns that aren't set up for any modern use, can't be changed so they are, and don't appeal to the "buy it just 'cuz" collector or mall ninja? There's just no real demand.
That's also why guns that look similar might be worth different amounts. An 1100 can be had pretty cheap, but not THAT cheap. It's still in production, and a good 1100 receiver can be built into just about anything someone wants (though stocks and barrels aren't free). The 48 is pretty much an as-is gun.
I was offered 200 bucks for my old 1100 Magnum, but also with fixed barrels and no ribs. I didn't take it, but I still might. I just don't like it much, and an 8 lb. field gun isn't worth spit to me, either.:)
smithmax
August 27, 2009, 02:03 PM
Guns are only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If that isn't as much as you want to get from it then I suggest that you just hang on to it and enjoy it.
OT: What weapons ban was going to ban the 1100? Both the 2007 and 2008 ones specifically exempted that gun.
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