How many really only like military (and -styled) guns?


Ignition Override
August 27, 2009, 04:36 AM
Although I've never hunted and only became interested in guns fairly late in life, only guns such as the WW2 era and later military products interest me.
Even the older Walther P-38 handguns appeal to me for some reason much more than modern HKs etc.

The civilian rifles are always reported to be better for hunting, with so many options for scopes and the many larger calibers etc.

Mini 30, SKS, MN 44 and Lee-Enfield #4, #5, plus very old Savage .22.

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August 27, 2009, 04:42 AM
Not me I can appreciate em all for various reasons. Provided they live up to the old axiom that only accurate rifles are interesting.

August 27, 2009, 04:45 AM
While I love the military guns, I don't favor them over others and vice versa. Most of my guns are modeled or were military, but the guns that draw my attention are the ones that were both military and civilian. The Browning HP is a good example. Still thinking about getting one of those :)

August 27, 2009, 07:50 AM
1st gun I ever bought was a mosin m44 and it was a slippery slop ever since. I too enjoy the military type guns, modern and older milsurplus stuff. The military stuff is what i am really into, little more fun to shoot for what ever reason for my self. And just as effective hunting for the most part.

August 27, 2009, 07:56 AM
I prefer Milsurps/black rifles and the like, over shotguns, remchesters, 10/22's etc...

August 27, 2009, 08:30 AM
I do !!!

I dont like sporting or hunting guns.. I like military like looking guns.. from the past, or actual.

exept for late 19th century era guns, like winchesters or Sharps.. even if those has been used by miltary force and police..

August 27, 2009, 09:20 AM
95% of my collection is military type rifles

I can appreciate the other styles, but very greatly prefer military

August 27, 2009, 10:15 AM
1916 Spanish Mauser Short Rifle (7x57)
1895 Chilean Mauser 7x57
Ruger Blackhawks (3) 45 Colt
Ruger Bisley 45 Colt
Colt Anaconda 45 Colt
S&W M1937 45 ACP
S&W M25-2 45 ACP
SA 1911-A1 45 ACP
Browning Hi-Power 9mm
TZ-75 9mm
Ruger P-90 45 ACP
US Model 1903 Mark I 30-06
Ivers and Johnson Champion 20 ga
Remington 870 Wingmaster LT-20
Remington 870 Wingmaster Magnum 30" Full Waterfowl 12 ga
Remington 970 Express 12 ga
1858 Remington 44 cal
Thompson Center Hawken 50 Cal caplock
T/C Renegade (2) 54 cal caplock
T/C New Englander (3) 54 cal, 54 cal rynite, 12 ga caplock
Pedersoli Frontier Flintlock 50 cal
Lyman 54 Caliber Trade Rifle
Knight LK-93 54 Cal
Marlin ML 54 cal
Interarms Mk X 7x57
Yugo M48 8x57 JS
Yugo M48B 8x57 JS
Turk 1941 Kirikale 8x57 JS
SMLE No. 4 Mk II (2) 303 British
M38 Swedish Mauser 6.5x55
Winchester Model 24 SxS 12 ga Mod/IC
Ruger Red Label O/U 12 ga
Winchester 67A Boys Rifle 22 cal
Winchester 37A 410
Hawes Western Star SA 357 magnum
Ted Williams 22 Semi auto and matching scope
Marlin 895 22 cal
Harrison Mfg & Tool Boys Rifle circa 1939 22 cal

I think I remember everything.

That makes 10 of 44 milsurps,
11 of 44 hanguns of some M&P Heritage,
11 Black Powder Firearms,
23 Sporting Long Guns

Put me down as a Sporting Long Gunner, with minors in BP, Milsurp, and Wheelgun/Krunchenticker

August 27, 2009, 10:22 AM
Is that "ALL" Pale Horse? Ha Ha! Nice line up by the sounds of it :)

August 27, 2009, 10:36 AM
OK Let me give this a shot from memory:
(3) M1 Garands "My Favs"
(2) 1903A3s
(2) M1 Carbines
M1917 American Enfield
.303 British Enfield
1903 Springfield
US44 .22 TRaining rifle
Model 96 Swede
(2) Sporter 96 Swedes for Whitetails
12 GA Ruger Red Label
A5 Browning 12GA
7MM Mag Browning A-Bolt Med
Marlin 336 30-30
Marlin 1895 45-70
Marlin .50 cal inline
TC .50 cal muzzleloader
Remington 742 Woodsmaster 30-06
Browning bottom eject .22
Marlin Model 60 .22
Beretta 92F
Ruger Super Blackhawk
Springfield Armory .45 ACP
WASR 10 AK 47
Russian SKS
Rock River Arms National Match .223
DPMS .308 Sportical
Colt 6920 .223
White Oak Armory .223 Comp AR

Gosh I know there are more but not sitting in front of the Safe. Guess I need
some professional help :uhoh::uhoh::uhoh::uhoh::uhoh:

Old Jimmy
August 27, 2009, 10:38 AM
Most of what I shoot is Military because I like the history of each one.

It was the best technology they could build at the time to defend their freedom with.

I also wonder what was running through the owners minds as they lay there in the trench fighting for their country and freedom.....

Oh yeah, they are a hell of a lot of fun to shoot!!!!

August 27, 2009, 10:49 AM
I also wonder what was running through the owners minds as they lay there in the trench fighting for their country and freedom.....

A small sample from the Gallipoli Landings, 1915:

Tim Buckley, a Munster Fusilier, described his experience of the landing:

"I was talking to the chap on my left when I saw a lump of lead enter his temple. I turned to the chap on my right, his name was Fitzgerald from Cork, but soon he was over the border. The one piece of shrapnel had done the job for two of them."

Sgt J Mc Colgan, was with thirty two men, only six of whom survived. He was shot in the leg. He recalled the landings thus:

"One fellow's brains were shot into my mouth as I was shouting to them to jump for it. I dived into the sea. Then came the job to swim with my pack and one leg useless. I managed to pull out the knife and cut the straps and swim ashore. All the time bullets were ripping around me."

August 27, 2009, 10:54 AM
Not me. I like sporters, although I do prefer the military-style iron sights.

Perhaps we should have two separate forums....

August 27, 2009, 11:21 AM
I like them all but upon further reflection, apparently military arms hold a deeper sense of happiness for me

J&T 24” varmint upper on DPMS lower, 5.56x45mm
CMT upper, 18” WOA barrel on AeroPrecision lower, 6.8x43mm SPC
J&T M4-gery upper on DPMS lower, 5.56x45mm
WOA DCM upper on Rock River lower, 5.56x45mm
Olympic Arms upper on DPMS lower, 9x19mm

CETME, 7.62x51mm
PTR91, 7.62x51mm
DSA StG58A, 7.62x51mm
DSA SA58, 7.62x51mm
Egyptian FN49, 7.92x57mm
Springfield Armory M1A Loaded, 7.62x51mm
WASR-10 AKM, , 7.62x39mm
Yugoslavian SKS M49/51, 7.62x39mm

Izhmash Saiga-12, 12 ga
CAI Golani, 5.56x45 mm (Galil clone)
MSAR StG556-E4, 5.56x45 mm (Steyr AUG-A3 clone)

1944 Springfield Armory M1 Garand, .30-06
1941 Springfield Armory M1 Garand, .30-06
1939 Springfield Armory M1 Garand, .30-06
Springfield Armory 1903A3, .30-06
Eddystone M1917, .30-06
Inland M1 Carbine, .30 Carbine
Springfield Armory 1898 Krag, .30-40
Springfield Armory 1873 Trapdoor, .45-70

Ishapore Enfield 2A, 7.62x51mm
Savage Enfield No. 4, Mk I*, .303 British
Fazerkly Enfield No. 4, Mk 1/2, .303 British
MAS 36, 7.5x54mm
Berthier Mle 1892/27 (32 ?) (Mosqueton d'Artillerie Mle. 1927), 8x50R mm
Swedish M1896 Mauser 1900 Oberndorf, 6.5x55mm
Swedish M1896 Mauser 1903 Gustav, 6.5x55mm
Swiss K31, 7.5x55mm
Swiss K31, 7.5x55mm

Yugoslavian M48 Mauser, 7.92x57mm
Mauser K98k, 7.92x57mm
Mauser K98k, 7.92x57mm
Type 99 Arisaka, 7.7x58mm
Mosin-Nagant M38, 7.62x54R
Mosin-Nagant M44, 7.62x54R
Mosin-Nagant 91/30, 7.62x54R
Finnish M39 Sako, 7.62x54R
Finnish M39 B-barrel, 7.62x54R

Pedersoli Billy Dixon 1874 Sharps, .45-70
Rossi Winchester 1892 clone, .45 Colt
Mossberg M46, .22 LR
Ruger 10-22T, .22 LR
Ruger 10-22, .22 LR
Savage Cub, .22 LR
Charles Daly Zavasta, .22 LR
Henry H001, .22 LR
Henry H001 youth stock, .22 LR

BOHICA A2 upper on DPMS lower, .50 BMG
Spanish FR-8, 7.62x51mm
E Robinson contract, .58 cal blackpowder
Israeli FN Mauser, 7.62x51mm
Tikka T3, .300 WSM
Gamo Hunter, .177 cal
Gamo Delta, .177 cal

August 27, 2009, 11:26 AM
I like 'em all.

August 27, 2009, 11:31 AM

words fail me. :cool:

August 27, 2009, 12:02 PM
Nice FN49; always wanted one of those.

August 27, 2009, 05:21 PM
Perhaps we should have two separate forums....

Excellent suggestion. 4 or 5 years ago this forum was MUCH more hunting rifle oriented. The market has shifted big time.

August 27, 2009, 05:43 PM
iamkris how is the Spanish FR-8, 7.62x51mm to shoot, accurate? good hiking/hunting pick?

August 27, 2009, 07:14 PM
Ok, Sorta along these lines; My 1st love is & always will be Black Powder Muzzle Loaders.. About half of my 75 firearms are Black powder in some form, but then talking cartridge rifles I have no true civilian style rifle. A majority by far of these 'other' guns are mil-surp. I prefer shooting handguns to rifles at the range & often have a hard time choosing what to shoot, or in what caliber.
Then there is something Historically romantic about firearms used during great social unrest. I have 2 Garands, 2 M1 Carbines, & a Semi Converted M-14 in addition to my Mosin Nagants, SKS's, All original (except 1 sks w/ folding plastic stock) & my ONLY "Black Rifle" is a High Point 9mm carbine. I have 5 original Civil War era rifles 1 of which is a Snyder conversion of a 3 band Enfield to .450/577. But History is what made me go for Winchester LeverGuns too! I suppose you could say Indian Wars there to stretch a point.
So other than my assortment of smokemakers, my guns are by far more military in scope. They are Heavy, Ugly, & Rough, but they have Character! And they will take a serious beating before they will fail... BTW I also do not believe a 22 makes a decent battle weapon... (that will start a fight!) I used one for awhile but preferred my M-14....
I'd list my guns but it's just too much for now.. 37 Handguns, 32 longguns, 6 shotguns according to my computer inventory... "DOC"

August 27, 2009, 07:36 PM
You just can't beat the look of a well crafted wooden stock, And the old hand engraved metal on a old SXS beautiful. Then again the history on military guns is somthing to be prized along with the reliabilty and the beauty of the older non-polymer guns

August 27, 2009, 07:45 PM
"My name is Kris ... and i have a milsurp problem!"


August 27, 2009, 09:48 PM
You just can't beat the look of a well crafted wooden stock, And the old hand engraved metal on a old SXS beautiful.

The problem with a nice, beautiful SxS is i think they look better sawed off so i never have wanted to buy an expensive one.

August 27, 2009, 10:30 PM
I have a similar philosophy in regards to rifles. I do have a couple of non-military styled .22's that I use for cheap practice so I can shoot my military guns better. Most of my handguns are used either by militaries or law enforcement in various roles. Once again, I have a couple of .22 pistols for cheap handgun practice.

Ignition Override
August 27, 2009, 11:20 PM
As soon as I saw the impressive collections of Mr. Pale Horse and Skidoo, they reminded me of yours, but could not remember your nickname.
Military Rifle Tribal Chief can be the title for many of you. How about Exalted Guru?

CornCod: Exactly.
Shooting about 50-100 rds. in the old .22 quickly satisfies some of the need to shoot lots of costlier ammo. I only had about 30 minutes to spend at the river today, and after 15 minutes with the Savage, only needed about 15 rounds in the Lee-Enfield #4 for high-power entertainment, before having to return home and rinse the bore with boiling water/dry patches.
Am reluctant to expose the pricier #5 Jungle Carbine to frequent 'wear and tear', but it is the most fun.

A friend from Essen, Germany has conventional hunting rifles/shotguns. .270 etc (and a new Walther .22), but no Mauser.
Instead, he bought a Colt AR-15 years ago. He gave me the impression that a very nice, authentic (non Russkie capture) Mauser would be very expensive.
But his father had one in the Wehrmacht. Ironisch oder?

I guess we normally need to switch to Surplusrifle or Gunboards, to read much more about this subject.
THR does not want such a forum to be created. Even SKSboards has a Curio and Relic forum.

August 27, 2009, 11:41 PM
I've always preferred the aesthetics of a good military rifle. They just look more rugged and manly.

Now, if someone made something like a 1903 replica that shot as well as modern technology could make firearms shoot, and still keep the full stock and wraparound handguards, maybe get a 1903A4-look going.....I'd be set for life, bolt-gun wise.

Garand & M1 Carbine are just awesome-looking, too.

August 28, 2009, 12:38 AM
Hey Eightball, you wouldn't be referring to the 1903-A4 Gibbs Rifle replica would you?

August 28, 2009, 01:53 AM

damn, iamkris.


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