Birthday Rifle


August 27, 2009, 07:45 PM
I'm turning 18 pretty soon so I'm looking to treat myself :D

I've got my bases covered as far as hunting rifles go and I have a good selection of .22's, but I have no mid-range target or varmint rifle! I'm looking for something that will shoot as well as my budget allows but has a decent appearance. I'm also not afraid of used rifles at all.

So far looking at Remington 700 SPS, their 799 in a Mini-Mauser action, or a couple of AR's. I have basically made up my mind that an AR will be priced too high for my budget and I'm not really a fan of them for bench shooting. I have a Savage in .243, and it shoots fine, but for whatever reason I don't really like their lines. I could go with one if it was not synthetic.

My caliber of choice is .223 for now just due to cost and availability of brass and bullets. I've shot a .204 but I can't justify one just yet. I'd love a .22 Hornet too if the price was right, any recommendations are appreciated too.

Budget without glass is about $600 because I gotta pay for this one just like the other guns I have. Parents don't like to shoot!


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August 27, 2009, 07:59 PM
Just look at my signature, and go for the .223.

August 27, 2009, 08:50 PM
I bought guns for myself on birthdays in calibers to match my age.

Its now nearly at the point where I'd have to register it as a destructive device.

August 27, 2009, 08:58 PM
Have you looked at the Kel-Tec SU-16? It can be found for under $650 and utilizes STANAG magazines.
Yes, I think they are sweet little rifles, but as far as target or varmint rifle go, they are probably a little too light. Kind of like an AR-7 all grown up!

I bought guns for myself on birthdays in calibers to match my age.
Its now nearly at the point where I'd have to register it as a destructive device.
Thats pretty good. I missed the .17 Fireball thought I'm not quite old enough for a .20 tactical...


August 28, 2009, 10:42 PM
Try a CZ 527 carbine in .223 light enough to stalk hunt accurate enough for longer shots and street price should be in your range. I have mine in 7.62 x 39 but if I get a chance to pick up one in 223 it will be mine

January 9, 2010, 01:51 PM
I own a ruger mini-14 racho, .223cal./5.56mm. Great for varmint. Super accurate iron sights. great range. Alot of kick though. reliable and fun to shoot. This is the rifle that the tower guards in prisons use. I got mine for $550 but have foung some at $500 & under. also. u can also purchase ruger 20rd. magazines for it. Avoid nock-off magazines as their springs are cheap and sometimes cuase jamming.

January 9, 2010, 04:18 PM
I have to agree with judodude, Mini-14. Because, it sounds like you're looking for an autoloader and a used Mini-14 is within your price range. It's a very reliable rifle and fun to shoot. It's too bad you don't live in Ohio, I'd sell you mine. I've rarely shot it since I bought an AR.

January 9, 2010, 04:36 PM

January 9, 2010, 04:52 PM
you can find an ar for the $600 range. dpms sportical

Ohio Gun Guy
January 9, 2010, 05:51 PM
W.E.G. - That's that just a joke or do you really buy something in a caliber per your age. :rolleyes: :scrutiny::)

THat could be FUN! Get you to get a few things you might not have otherwise. :evil:

Boris Barowski
January 9, 2010, 05:55 PM
When you turn 60 you could buy 2 30-calibers :p Or is that considered cheating?

January 9, 2010, 11:18 PM
Remington SPS varmint in 223. Bolt, more accurate, and best bang for your buck.

January 9, 2010, 11:42 PM
Go for the CZ527 -

There are three different types of CZ's, in .223. The Carbine (as trstafford stated), the American (sporter), or the Varmint (Heavy Barrel).
I bought the CZ527 Varmint in .223, a couple of years ago - really nice, accurate, consistant rifle. Get really good glass, I mounted a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x40AO on mine & she'll shoot the eye out of a squirrel.
I haven't needed it but, CZ's customer service is supposed to be real good - Remington's, not so much.
Here's a pic of the CZ527

Good luck,


CZ527 Varmint .223 w/ Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x40AO, & Warne Maxima rings.

Big Bill
January 10, 2010, 12:08 AM
Buy a Savage in 25-06. It's the best of all worlds.

Or, a Stevens..

List of guns...

Big Bill
January 10, 2010, 12:17 AM
Here's a list of .223s - low to high...

Elm Creek Smith
January 10, 2010, 01:33 AM
The Ruger Mini 14 with the heavier barrel was available at my local WalMart for $607.00 brand-new. The owner's manual states that it's suitable for .223 Remington/5.56x45mm NATO. It's handy and more accurate than the older Mini 14s.


Uncle Mike
January 10, 2010, 02:38 AM
p/n = part number

Savage Model 25 Lightweight Varminter p/n 18526 in .223 caliber.

Savage 12 FV p/n 01282...same caliber. Also offered in 204 Ruger and 22-250.

You might be able to find a Savage Model 10 FP, p/n 01060 for around 6 bills.

Remington SPS Varmint in .223, p/n 84215. There is a $40 rebate on any caliber of the SPS Varmint right now.

The SPS Varmint is around $20 more than the standard SPS, dealer cost, so I would opt for the heavier barrel SPS Varmint, unless.....

On average, the Savages will shoot circles around the Remington SPS V but to each there own. I set up a SPS V a while back that shot groups you could cover with dime, and have change left over at 100y, and at 200y groups approached, but was smaller than a nickle! Yup, a .223 Remington SPS V.

January 10, 2010, 12:01 PM
Marlin XL7 in .25-06 is a very, very accurate rifle. Also later you can replace the barrel with an aftermarket barrel if you like. It uses Stevens barrel nut.

They are $259.99 at Academy, and then you can get some really good glass and mounts.

dagger dog
January 10, 2010, 12:31 PM
Check out the Howa bolt guns, they have a couple nice looking carbines in .223 come with Houge stocks ,everything I've read or heard has been OK, and the pricing ain't too shabby either!

January 10, 2010, 12:44 PM
I'd also recommend a CZ in whatever caliber suits your fancy, young man! I have never been disappointed with one of their products.

Dr.Mall Ninja
January 10, 2010, 01:17 PM
+1 on sks

January 10, 2010, 04:42 PM
a 22-250 is a great distance varmint gun

January 10, 2010, 04:51 PM
Get one of the older Ruger M77V rifles with the tang safety. Some really nice old rifles that shoot sub moa. Easily within your budget too. They have a "magical" barrel contour in my estimation. Its a heavy barrel but the overall rifle feels great shooting in field positions. Not to heavy, not too light. I personally prefer the 6mm's.

January 10, 2010, 04:54 PM
judodude, his birthday was 5mo. ago, I am certain that he has already chosen and purchased his BD rifle...give it another 7mo. and perhaps he will ask again. ;)

Ol` Joe
January 10, 2010, 05:01 PM
The 223 is great for target and varmits. It is all you need for paper out to 600 yd + and will tackle varmites like Chucks @300 not problem.
I`d stay with something like the Savages or Remingtons already recommended, and would look at a faster twist to allow the heavier bullets for longer range target work.

January 10, 2010, 08:37 PM
Remington SPS Tactical in 223...I have one and it is amazing!!! Shoots very tight groups and is not very heavy despite featuring a 20" bull barrel in Hogue stock.

January 10, 2010, 08:50 PM
My suggestion is to not listen to most of the people on this forum. They have no interest in practical rifles. Go to your local gun store, check out the quality of the action, the trigger, a caliber between .243/6mm-.260/6.5mm, and get a rifle that appeals to you. Just in case you are wondering, any non-magnum rifle chambered in between the calibers I listed will have very little kick.

bomb dropper
January 10, 2010, 08:53 PM
Buy a AR

$600 new AR (

Big Bill
January 10, 2010, 08:55 PM
My suggestion is to not listen to most of the people on this forum. This is a dumb statement. There are many people here who are very knowlegable and give great advice. Perhaps after you have been here awhile, you'll realize that.

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