[Ughh]

Sup THR, I was interested in getting a Mossberg 930 SPX. I have never owned a shotgun before so I have no idea on prices regarding shotshells. Did these prices increase dramatically along with rifle and pistol ammo??

I heard that ammo manufacturers increased prices in substantial percentages across all forms of ammo.
Can you guys give me examples of how much shotshells increased by, if any??

Thnx THR

[AcceptableUserName]

I haven't noticed a ton of shotshell increase to be honest. POSSIBLY a slight increase on fine hunting ammo like high-grade steel shot or sabot slugs, other than that, not so much. Buckshot's always been at or around a dollar a pop in stores, at least where I live.

[Fractal X]

I really didn't noticed a jump in bird shot. For a little while after November it was hard to find any slugs or buckshot and prices went up accordingly. But prices seem to have dropped back to approximately pre-November prices and they're both widely available again.

[Virginian]

Premium non toxic shot like tungsten matrix roughly doubled from $2.00 a shot to $4.00 a shot over a year ago. This appeared to be driven by market prices for heavy metals, driven by high demand, particularly by the rapidly industrializing Chinese. The world wide recession has greatly reduced demand, and heavy metals prices have dropped substantially, but the price of shells has stayed high. I am assuming some manufacturers have learned from the oil companies and freed their pricing from ties to costs. :barf: I have made a promise to myself to remember it if any of the bastards ever needs a life preserver. :fire:

[Ughh]

HahA..

Please more info on shotshell prices over the last year, year 1/2. What kind of increases have you guys seen, if any??

Is this comparable or less comparable to increases in price with pistol and rifle ammo?

[Bruno2]

I know that a couple of years ago when lead was really spikingI saw win AA go from 5.95 a box to 7.97 and then some . Now lead is back down to a low price per pound , but , shotshells are staying high :confused:. There is a gun shop in a small town about twenty minutes from my house that carries reloading components . I have been going to this store since I was a kid . They have a 25lb bag of 000 buck that nobody seems to want . I have watched this bag of buck go up and down in price for at least 15yrs . Regardless of what it cost when it was purchased back in the 80's it always cost the same as the rest of the shot on the shelf that is renewed once a month .:fire: .

The all mighty dollar will trump any 2nd ammendment right no matter what political affiliation somebody has . If raising primers to $50.00 per thousand will keep us from buying as many as we would normally , so be it as long as the guy running the store makes a couple of extra bucks "thats fine"

[mlaustin]

In my area, shotshell prices have stayed surprisingly consistent over the last year. As far as I can tell, the run on centerfire ammunition is caused mostly by people who aren't really "in the know" as far as firearms go, and so it seems to be mostly centerfire pistol ammunition that's jumped recently.

I just picked up 100 7 1/2 shot shells from Wal-Mart for $20 for trap shooting. I can't imagine ammo getting much cheaper than $0.20/shot.

[Fastcast]

Maybe us fine members here at THR need to be emailing these manufactures and asking them why the price of shotshells has continued to be priced exorbitantly, when the price of metals have came down. Then explain to them that if this trend continues your buying habits will change.

I used to do lots of clays practice before the upcoming season but not anymore. It's no big deal to me if I miss a few more ducks on the first hunt or two. It doesn't take long at all to get back into the swing of things. A line in the sand needs to be drawn people. Only buy what you absolutely need and we'll see if they change their ways when their sales plummet.

[oneounceload]

Over the last year, the basic 4-packs from wally world have actually come DOWN - hi-grade has pretty much stayed the same during the frenzy on the metallic side of things.

Many people do not realize that shotgun shells are run in production batches and things like 410 and 28, specialty hunting loads, etc. are run once a year. If they were run when component prices were high, they'll be priced high.

It's really very simple - prices, even now are a LOT lower than they were 20 years ago - I have the boxes of hunting and target loads to prove it.

Federal 20 gauge, #6 were 9.95 20 years ago (at least in Reno). Factor in inflation for that.

We've been fortunate to have low prices for many years......and the availability has always been there until this last election when a vast majority of new folks decided to upset the normal supply/demand curve and start hoarding way more than they ever needed before, driving supply to nothing but making demand high.

Learn Econ 101 before whining about prices......and learn to load your own

[zhyla]

Why does it matter how much prices have moved on shotgun ammo in the past? It doesn't have anything to do with what it costs now or will cost in the future. It is nice that shotshell prices have been comparatively stable but that doesn't mean that will be the case next time.

[Fastcast]

Learn Econ 101 before whining about prices......and learn to load your own

I'll assume you're talking to me :rolleyes:

I do reload and have for years, for an old A.H. Fox....1oz. loads, AA hulls, W209 primers, 23.5gr of PB, WAA12 wads, #35 bushing, 70-75lb wad press. :neener:

Not so long ago you could pick up AAs for 4-5 dollars a box and now they're $8.00.....It's not just factory loaded shotshells either but all the components for reloaders have increased. Shot, primers, wads, & powder. :mad:

So don't assume you know people before chastising them with your economic babble and expertise.....Which by the way sounds just like the popular economics of today.....Make a large profit at any and all cost and to hell with quality and/or customer service. :banghead:

[tango2echo]

Last year I bought three cases of Remington Sportsman Steel shot for $240.

This week I bought three cases of the same thing for $300.

t2e

[mjsmith1223]

I can only speak to prices in my immediate area right now:

Winchester AA, 12 ga., 7-1/12 or 8 shot, box of 25 is around $9+ in most places I frequent. Remington STS and Federal Gold Medal is about the same. Federal Top Gun is about $7.

[oneounceload]

So don't assume you know people before chastising them with your economic babble and expertise.....Which by the way sounds just like the popular economics of today.....Make a large profit at any and all cost and to hell with quality and/or customer service.

Then don't come on here and whine about things. :rolleyes: Don't like the prices? Don't buy them. YOU have the choice. Making a profit is what business is all about. And just what is a LARGE profit? Why does everyone seem to think that companies in the shooting business should only make a few cents on the dollar?
Companies that can make a profit should be able to. Where's the outrage over Columbia PFG fishing shirts made in Vietnam that sell for $45.00? If that's too steep, you don't buy them, or find something cheaper. The same holds true for shooting supplies and components - called supply and demand. Thank the current administration. Last November caused a panic that resulted in massive ammo shortages - so everyone got into reloading....Well, gee, now guess what? There were shortages created there - some are finally starting to subside, some not yet. So until the hoarders, panic buyers and speculators stop their insanity buying, nothing will change. Why not complain to your representatives about the 10% extra tax on all sporting goods? That would help.

[Fastcast]

Where's the outrage over Columbia PFG fishing shirts made in Vietnam that sell for $45.00? I don't buy that junk and am outraged about that too!

Why not complain to your representatives about the 10% extra tax on all sporting goods? I do that regularly too.....Once again you assume you know what everyone else does and doesn't do.

So I'm whiner because I said members should email the company reps and let them know how they feel and I'm a whiner because I said I cut back target shooting......You're outline with your accusations & assumptions.

[Shotgun Shooter]

I buy 12ga 00bk for $4.47 and 12ga slugs for $3.17.
As for target loads, I buy those by the 100 at walmart for $21

S.S.

[oneounceload]

I make NO assumptions about you or anyone else, especially on the internet.

Anyone, as a consumer, holds the ultimate trump card - their wallet. Vote with that, and the companies will get the message. Complaining about a company making money is ludicrous - without a profit, they cease to exist and then supply gets worse, which makes the prices higher. Folks can try to speculate which way prices will go - some have come down, some haven't. Will they be higher i a few years? probably so. Does that mean you should buy a lifetime supply now? Probably not.....

I get components readily through my clubs, and except for primers being a little higher than the last few years, they have been pretty much stable.

I hope all the shooting-related companies make more than enough profit to stay in business over the long haul. Profit-making companies are not the problem. Political enemies are - but that's another thread for another time.

[Fastcast]

Anyone, as a consumer, holds the ultimate trump card - their wallet. Vote with that, and the companies will get the message.

Gee, and here I thought that was my point, the whole time. Comprehension 101 :scrutiny:

Complaining about a company making money is ludicrous. Profit-making companies are not the problem.

When did I say companies shouldn't make a profit?....I believe I was talking about exorbitant prices, that don't come down when the cost of supplies come down.

[clem]

I was in Wal-Mart today and they had like a couple of pallets of shotgun ammo. I recall the loads were 7 1/2, 8, and even some 6.
I forget the prices but it was under $10.00 a box of 25.

[SpotlightRanger]

I think target loads bottomed out around 2004 at about $22/ case of ten boxes. (250 rounds). Prices are about 50-100% higher now. Hunting ammo did not vary as much, it was always pretty high.

[Mossberg535]

Sup THR, I was interested in getting a Mossberg 930 SPX. I have never owned a shotgun before so I have no idea on prices regarding shotshells. Did these prices increase dramatically along with rifle and pistol ammo??

I heard that ammo manufacturers increased prices in substantial percentages across all forms of ammo.
Can you guys give me examples of how much shotshells increased by, if any??

Thnx THR As far as Ive noticed I havent seen any real increase in shotgun amo price or decrease in availability the last year or so. Even when I couldnt find 22 or 38/357 ammo at all, shotgun shells were at every WM I shop at.

[MCgunner]

Premium non toxic shot like tungsten matrix roughly doubled from $2.00 a shot to $4.00 a shot over a year ago. This appeared to be driven by market prices for heavy metals, driven by high demand, particularly by the rapidly industrializing Chinese. The world wide recession has greatly reduced demand, and heavy metals prices have dropped substantially, but the price of shells has stayed high. I am assuming some manufacturers have learned from the oil companies and freed their pricing from ties to costs. I have made a promise to myself to remember it if any of the bastards ever needs a life preserver.

Half dozen years back, I was getting Federal Tungsten/Iron for $1.35 a shot. It was great. I thought I'd found the answer to goose hunting with a 3" 12. Actually, I had, until it hit $4 a shot! OUCH. Now, steel is a dollar a shot in some loads, 3.5" 12 and 10. :rolleyes: I'm still getting duck loads for under 10 bucks a box of 25, though.

Lead dove loads have gone from under 4 dollars a box of 25 to a little over 5. I was paying $5.50 a box for Winchester double A. I'm hunting with Federal bulk pack dove loads now about about 5.20 a box and double As are a little over $8 a box.

Such is life. I have a reloader for 10 gauge, still need steel shot for it. I need to get my butt in gear on that. LOL

[Old Guard Dog]

I sell ammo, and this is what I have been told about the ammo shortage. Because of high demand since the election, manufacturers have maxed out production, but will NOT buy any new machines, because as soon as this bubble is over, and demand stabilizes, they would be sitting on extra machines with no orders for them. Makes sense.

I am now able to get most any shotgun ammo, but still a large backorder on pistol ammo. My distributers receive a limited amount of their orders, and likewise "ration" what we dealers get. As soon as people stop buying, prices will go down.

Remember though, lead prices will affect the price of shotgun shells. Lead prices have dropped over the last year.

[Paul82]

mlaustin
said "I just picked up 100 7 1/2 shot shells from Wal-Mart for $20 for trap shooting. I can't imagine ammo getting much cheaper than $0.20/shot."

+1 to this that is pretty cheap

[oneounceload]

mlaustin
said "I just picked up 100 7 1/2 shot shells from Wal-Mart for $20 for trap shooting. I can't imagine ammo getting much cheaper than $0.20/shot."

+1 to this that is pretty cheap

Unless you reload for about .15/shot........:D For 15,000 rounds, that $750.00, enough to pay for the reloader in one year

[fw2009]

china mart has slugs for around 8$ a box 15/box, buck shot magnum for around 12$ a box the gun likes these shells, they shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger. great gun

[fw2009]

i own a mossy 930spx I would suggest keeping away from the light load bird shot, ftf's it likes the high brass slugs and magnum buckshot