I am considering purchasing this scope for a Weatherby Vanguard .243. What do you folks think? I have experience with cheap scopes, in optimum conditions they are great, but if it is too hot/cold/wet they are terrible. This is supposedly fog and waterproof.
Academy has this for $169.99
P.S. this isn't what I meant by cheap, like a $30 Bushnell or Tasco.
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August 29, 2009, 03:36 PM
It's a good scope for a .243. Especially for deer hunting at less than 300 yards.
August 29, 2009, 03:37 PM
It's a quality scope. Don't have any reservations about buying it.
August 29, 2009, 03:40 PM
If you're going to spend that amount on a scope, get the Team Primos from the Sample List:
I think it's a great scope for the money. I purchased one a couple of years ago and put it on a CZ-550 in .308. It has never lost zero and still produces great groups where I zeroed it originally. All this after much groundhog hunting in various weather conditions and paper punching.
August 29, 2009, 03:55 PM
I get SUB MOA at 300 yards using this scope, even at 500 yards my groups stay within 2 MOA, would I recommend to hunt with it at 500, tough question, depends how good can you read wind, just to be safe up to 300 yards you'll be happy with it.
August 29, 2009, 04:00 PM
there good scopes, there cheap for the quality, i have a 4x on my 17hmr and its never give me any problems, even when usin it in the winters.
August 29, 2009, 04:40 PM
From what I'm seeing Nikon scopes are now made in the Philippines. I would not buy a Nikon unless it came out of Japan myself. Their have been some other scope company's outsourcing to the Philippines in recent years. Their quality and durability has been taking a hit from what I'm seeing.
Consider looking at Sightron scopes if you want a well built scope from Japan. Especially the SII and SIII series they have one of the better tracking systems (ExacTrack) out there with excellent optics for the price.
August 29, 2009, 04:46 PM
Wally world carries the prostaffs. Good prices too.
August 29, 2009, 04:56 PM
All Nikons even the Monarchs are made in the Philippines. If you want a budget Nikon spend an extra $50 and get the Team Primos. It is a Monarch and side by side it is a much better scope than the price difference would suggest. And yes I have shot through both side by side on numerous occasions. Still the Prostaff is a decent scope (until you do a side by side with a better scope).
I have both an older Nikon made in Japan and a previous gen Monarch made in the Philippines, and while the Japanese scope is nice it isn't as clear or bright in low light as the Monarch.
The Team Primos is supposedly the same scope as my Monarch, and at $180 is about the best deal in scopes right now. The Prostaff is a good scope, but is a definite step down from the Primos. Rather than paying retail prices shop around and get more scope for the money.
August 29, 2009, 05:05 PM
If a scope does what you expect it to do,no matter the brand or where it was made, why would you look for anything else. Why would a Team Primos or Buckmaster be "better" if the Pro-staff does everything you want it to do? Status maybe?
August 29, 2009, 05:12 PM
MUCH better low light visibility for hunting is my #1 reason.
August 29, 2009, 05:39 PM
But.. the Pro-staff works very well until the end of legal shooting hours so where is the advantage? I'm asking to find out,not to argue.
August 29, 2009, 05:41 PM
Buy it...........you won`t be disappointed! :)
August 29, 2009, 05:42 PM
Who cares where a scope is made? If it's a good scope, it's a good scope and if it's a bad scope, likewise-no matter the country of origin. If the price was right and it was a good scope backed by a lifetime warranty by a reputable company, I'd buy a scope made in Borneo-or Gary, Indiana for that matter. ;)
Regarding the ProStaff, I have one and, imo, it's one of the best values in scopes available.
August 29, 2009, 09:45 PM
I have 2 of them. No complaints and would quickly buy another.
August 30, 2009, 12:13 AM
The only problem, if you can call it that, is that their adjustments are not as repeatable as I would like, but once adjusted, they stay put, and work well in the light levels I hunt in the midsouth.
Redneck with a 40
August 30, 2009, 12:29 AM
My Remington 700 SPS Tac came with a pro-staff mounted on it, I'm very happy with it. Its bright, clear, and sharp, works great out to 300 yards.
I will say the Burris fullfield II that I bought for my mini-14, 3-9x40, beats the pro-staff, its brighter.
August 31, 2009, 01:50 AM
nikon , pentax, and burris, I put all in the same class. very good scopes, will work easily for anyone, good for the seasoned hunting pro, a benchrester, a 22 dude, or a total newb. the nikon and pentax both have no questions, lifetime warranties, and you get a darn good scope, at a very reasonable price. Not sure on the wrrty situation with burris, though I like their glass, and their reticle choices.
As for where a scope is made; generally speaking, getting some type of optical anything made in japan, should be super good, proly a notch below german or such. Why? becuase Japan has very strict laws and standards for things like scopes , cameras, telescopes, etc., and has to pass rigorous inspection , both privately and then by government agencies. That is why their cameras outrocked everybodies, from the 60's through the 90's it seems. Now I don't know if they still have to be checked
by differing agencies, but I can't imagine Japan letting their reputation for optics, engineering and glassmaking,
to go to hell's bathroom. that is why anytime I go to a gunshow, I look for a Tasco, about 30 to 40 years old, with hi polish, and very nice ring ens, good clear lettering, and finish work on them. Look for 2 things, Japan, molded somewhere into the occular bell, and a small little goldor silver colored stamp shaped like a football on them, about 1/4 the size of a raisin, this is the quality control govt., stamp that is put on them.
I buy those scopes, whether I need them or not.
August 31, 2009, 08:40 AM
They must be discontinuing them or something.. try and beat these prices;Nikon Prostaff 4x = $76.99! As long as they dont eat you up with shipping it would be hard to beat.