August 31, 2009, 11:03 PM
So a ran across a W. German marked Anschutz Model 164 Sporter today and I'm wondering if it's a good deal or not. I'm really intrigued by it, it's in mint condition with a beautiful stock and the shop wants $450 for it.
I've been wanting a new .22 rifle for a while now but I can't decide what to get. I've heard nothing but great things about Anschutz so I'm wondering if I should put some money down on this gun?
August 31, 2009, 11:04 PM
September 1, 2009, 04:23 AM
I have and still do own Remington, Marlin, Savage, Ruger, CZ...ect, rimfire rifles. They are all good guns but they may require some fine tuning to get them where you want them. About 4-5 months ago a guy walked into my local gun shop with a near perfect Anschutz model 164 and sold it because he needed cash. About 5-6 of us gathered around as soon as he walked out the door and I grabbed the rifle first. It never left my hands. I paid $350.00 for it and it is hands down the best 22 rifle I have ever handled or shot. The trigger is perfect. I love my CZ's but the Anschutz is just a notch above IMHO. I cannot tell the difference in accuracy between the CZ's and the Anschutz but the trigger is much better and just seems to take less effort to shoot accurately. YMMV! I'll never part with it.
September 1, 2009, 08:24 AM
I was thinking $450 was either right or a little high, but I'm old and out of touch. :) Nice looking rifle and even the entry-level Anschutzes have good reputations for accuracy.
There was one listed on gunsamerica that didn't sell for $475.
There's one on gunbroker with a day left on the auction that hasn't drawn a bid with a starting price of $600 www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=138361902
And Cabela's has one listed for $799. :eek:
Fwiw, I read one post about how big a bear it is to adjust the trigger and get it precisely right. The advice was to take your tools to the range because what you think is a good adjustment at home might not be at the range. There's a fine line between just right and too much creep. What the heck, for $450 it's a miracle the trigger is adjustable at all and the one you're looking at might be fine as it is.
September 1, 2009, 09:48 AM
The 1415-1416 is two versions of the same rifle. One had a walnut stock. The other was birch.
The newer version is the 1416D. They run ~ $800 new.
September 1, 2009, 05:04 PM
Isn't the difference that the 1415 is LR and the 1416 is WRM, at least that's what mine is marked...
September 1, 2009, 08:04 PM
I read one post about how big a bear it is to adjust the trigger and get it precisely right.
Someone must not be mechanically inclined because they are quite simple. The older ones from the 60's are a little harder to adj. but still easy. The new Annie's such as the 1416 are straight forward adj.'s.
By the way $450.00 is a excellent price for a 1416!
September 1, 2009, 08:19 PM
Sorry everyone, I screwed up. I went back to the gun shop to double check model of the Anschutz and it turns out I was wrong. It's actually a Model 164, not a 1415-1416.
When I got home from the gun shop yesterday I forgot to take note of what model it was that I had looked at and so I went online to try and find the one that most closely matched the one they had. I got up this morning and something bugged me about the 1415-1416, although it looked similar to the one at the gunshop something about it was different. I went back to the shop and asked to see it again, it's then I realized I had goofed:o
I ended up putting some money down on it but it's not to late to go back and tell them I changed my mind. If the price isn't good then I'll go back and put that money towards something else.