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Colton White
September 1, 2009, 02:56 AM
il keep this short and i appreciate all who give their 2 cents

iv got the itch for a non semi auto .22lr rifle because im tired of chasing brass and because i told u i got the itch!

what is a good bang for ur buck bolt or lever action .22?

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bigfatdave
September 1, 2009, 03:18 AM
I've been really enjoying my Henry. Not too expensive, it eats .22LR/L/S happily, including CB rounds.
Henry Repeating Arms Website (http://henryrepeating.com/rifles.cfm)
I got the Lever Carbine (H001L) for a number of reasons, they make a number of nice lever guns in various sizes/finishes, and by all accounts their customer service is top notch.

dak0ta
September 1, 2009, 03:40 AM
Marlin 925 or Marlin 60/795

Marlin 45 carbine
September 1, 2009, 03:54 AM
for the money it's gonna be hard to beat a 925 for accuracy.

Radagast
September 1, 2009, 04:01 AM
CZ452 bolt action. Do a search on it, there are multiple threads. It's probably the highest quality firearm for the least amount of money that you can find.

garyhan
September 1, 2009, 04:13 AM
Winchester Wildcat. Dirt cheap, dead accurate, nicely finished. See the latest issue of Rifle magazine for a review.

gary

C-grunt
September 1, 2009, 05:28 AM
A couple years ago my wife bought me a Savage MkII from Walmart for around 100 bucks, non accutrigger. It is an awesome rifle and dead accurate.

I really do want a CZ and would kill for an Anshutz though.

Owlnmole
September 1, 2009, 07:42 AM
If you're looking for something different, there are some interesting surplus .22 bolt-actions at Allan's Armory (http://www.allans-armory.com/aaresult.php?PageId=69).

CajunBass
September 1, 2009, 07:50 AM
If you're chasing 22 brass to keep the range clean, you're still going to have to chase it with a bolt or a lever gun. Maybe not as far, but you'll still have to chase it.

If I wanted a non-semi 22, I think I'd take a hard look at the Henry. A Marlin bolt gun would be good too.

However if don't mind spending a little money, a Marlin 39A should be near the top of the list. You might take a deep "GULP" when you see the price, but years from now, that won't bother you.

dom1104
September 1, 2009, 08:17 AM
CZ 452. Absolutly fantastic.

W L Johnson
September 1, 2009, 08:25 AM
Winchester Wildcat. Dirt cheap, dead accurate, nicely finished. See the latest issue of Rifle magazine for a review.

gary

Got one for my daughter, shoots great. She calls it "Little Mosin" because it kind of looks like a small Mosin Nagant
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/38/38177.jpg

kludge
September 1, 2009, 08:26 AM
Savage.

dispatch55126
September 1, 2009, 08:43 AM
+1 Savage MKII.

Its very accurate, middle of the road for price and they now have the accutriger. If you've not used the accutrigger before, it takes a little to get use to but it definitely improved accuracy.

GunTech
September 1, 2009, 09:13 AM
The Wildcat is just a rebranded Russian made 22.

If you want something really unique, there are several Russian made 22LRs that offer superb accuracy for a reasonable amount of money. My Biathlon 7-2 is one of the most accurate 22s I've ever owned and the two stage match trigger is unbelievable on a gun of this price.

http://guntech.com/rimfire/bb-cammo.jpg

But you could hardly go wrong with a CZ-452

CZguy
September 1, 2009, 10:44 AM
CZ452 bolt action. Do a search on it, there are multiple threads. It's probably the highest quality firearm for the least amount of money that you can find.

Yep, good advice. If you can afford it you might want to consider a Marlin 39a.

rangerruck
September 1, 2009, 11:10 AM
best bang for the buck bolts are marlin, mod 80 or 81's, now called 981's, have been made continuously with little change, for 75 years now. they can fire short, long, and long rifle. mod 25, also now called 925, is the same, but wood stock, and mag fed. look for an older one, as I dont think the newer ones can fire shorts, but the older ones can. Look for them new or used, new will be about 150 bucks, used will be 75 to 100. also if you buy new, marlin has 20 dollar rebate tickets right now, just look around on the internet, or on their homesite.

rangerruck
September 1, 2009, 11:12 AM
oh yeah, all the above dudes are correct, savage can be very good,but not better than marlins. wilcats come with 4 mags, very nice, but it is closer to 200 bucks, now, which is still good because of the multi mags; if you can get one for 150 or 170 , I wouldn't mind getting one. Cz will be the best of the bunch, but it will be over 300 bucks.

but if we are going for ' best bang for the buck'? then marlin, new or used, just cannot be beat.

MountainBear
September 1, 2009, 12:23 PM
My personal favorite is also the CZ 452. It feels like an adult rifle. It has a nice full size stock that doesn't feel like a youth gun every time you shoulder it. Mine is accurate and fun to shoot. They are a bit spendy for a .22 plinker though.
The Savage MkII is a good less expensive option. You can tell that its built cheaper, but it still works very reliably, and is reasonably accurate.

If you can afford it, go with the CZ. If not, go with the Savage. You'll have fun with either.

Cosmoline
September 1, 2009, 12:27 PM
CZ 452 ZKM, with the tangent sights! Best rifle I've ever owned. It's killed over 100 squirrel like a death ray, plus all manner of bunnies, grouse and even an enraged muskrat. Shoots 1" groups at fifty. Handles like a commercial Mauser, but at half the weight. Excellent balance. I picked mine up a decade ago when they were just $200. Don't be afraid of getting a used one. In fact I've found the pre-A prefix CZ's are the highest quality. Those were the ones built in the years after the velvet revolution before the word got out about how great the rifles were.

CZguy
September 1, 2009, 12:40 PM
even an enraged muskrat

:eek: What did you say to him to get him so mad? :D

Cosmoline
September 1, 2009, 01:25 PM
That was back when I was living off grid up north of here. I was living out of a little garden shed and had a little GSD pup with me. It was raining for days before that and the water level was rising from the nearby lake. About three AM it's pour down rain and I hear this growling and hissing. I grab the trusty CZ, step out and there's the pup locked in combat with a huge muskrat that must have been flooded out of his usual place. I get the pup clear but the rat still wants to fight, so I shoot it. I wish I still had that pelt because it was a beauty.

Dambugg
September 1, 2009, 02:54 PM
I am going to against the grain a little bit here. My favorite .22 rifle is a Winchester 1890 galery gun. Pump .22s are so fun to shoot. They aren't cheap anymore but well worth it in my opinion. Granted, I am extremely biased as the two I own have been in my family since the 1920's.

You never stated what you wanted to do with this rifle. Bench rest, shoot squirells, make tin cans dance, a little more info on what the rifles use will be would really help out.

Schleprok62
September 1, 2009, 03:04 PM
Best bang for ones buck would have to be the old Marlin Glenfield Model 25... if you search the pawn shops, you can find one of these for under $100. They are quite accurate and reliable... granted, the triggers could use a little work...


I have 2 of them...

SeekHer
September 1, 2009, 04:36 PM
Browning BL22 followed by the Marlin 39A for lever actions...Henry, for the most part, suck!

Browning T- Bolt, various CZ or Anschutz sporters, Weatherby Mark XXll, Savage for better quality bolt actions...used Remington 541, Winchester 52(D) if you can find them are excellent...

Kimber Super America, Cooper Arms for the HIGH end...

edrice
September 1, 2009, 04:50 PM
iv got the itch for a non semi auto .22lr rifle because im tired of chasing brass and because i told u i got the itch!

I know you said non semiauto but you'll do less brass chasing with the Browning Semi Auto .22 then any other rifle made because it ejects empties straight down (bottom eject). I've shot every type of .22 rifle there is and I've never shot a sweeter shooter than this one. Plus it's compact, just over 5 pounds, and takes down.

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=022B&cat_id=021&type_id=001

Ed

gdesloge
September 1, 2009, 04:56 PM
Is there a preferred method for breaking-in a new .22 rifle (or handgun, for that matter)? Does it matter?

Thanks -

g

Bill B.
September 1, 2009, 08:08 PM
CZ452 bolt action. Do a search on it, there are multiple threads. It's probably the highest quality firearm for the least amount of money that you can find.

Pretty much nailed it!

76shuvlinoff
September 1, 2009, 08:09 PM
However if don't mind spending a little money, a Marlin 39A should be near the top of the list. You might take a deep "GULP" when you see the price, but years from now, that won't bother you.

or pick up an old one and years from now you still won't be bothered by the price. Mine is 30 years old and Dad's is 57. Pretty "down to earth" all right.

MCgunner
September 1, 2009, 08:14 PM
Chasing rimfire brass? Just need the exercise or something? Neat freak? :D

Just go to a pawn shop. You'll see tons of bolt guns, pump guns, single shots, etc. Old Remington bolt guns tend to be tack drivers. :D

CZguy
September 1, 2009, 08:47 PM
I know you said non semiauto but you'll do less brass chasing with the Browning Semi Auto .22 then any other rifle made because it ejects empties straight down (bottom eject). I've shot every type of .22 rifle there is and I've never shot a sweeter shooter than this one. Plus it's compact, just over 5 pounds, and takes down.

I like the little browning..........but I just sweep up the .22 brass with a push broom.

Country_boy_88
September 1, 2009, 08:51 PM
best bang for the buck? Well my brother and I have marlin bolt actions. Mine is the 981 tube fed and sorry i cant recall what model his is. Same gun just different loading.
They are both tack drivers though and we use them for silhouette and nra benchrest.

If you ever plan to do any competitive shooting though id recommend just getting a 10/22 that has a large aftermarket support.
I still have yet to find a company that makes a stock for mine :(

CZguy
September 1, 2009, 08:56 PM
Is there a preferred method for breaking-in a new .22 rifle (or handgun, for that matter)? Does it matter?

Welcome to the high road.

Yes there is. I prefer to get a couple of bulk packs of shells (Federal is my favorite) and sit in the backyard and shoot the new rifle until the action is smooth. :) There is no need to break in the barrel like you would with a center fire. In fact I don't even clean the barrel on a .22 until I see accuracy falling off (which can be a long time) I just clean the action as required to make it function properly, and always wipe down the external metal with and oily cloth.

rtn
September 1, 2009, 09:18 PM
CZ-452 Lux.

rtn
September 1, 2009, 09:20 PM
Is there a preferred method for breaking-in a new .22 rifle (or handgun, for that matter)? Does it matter?

Thanks -

g
Just clean the bore before shooting it and you'll be fine.

Colton White
September 1, 2009, 09:48 PM
thanks to all

to answer the usage question hunting plinking shootin stuff everything a .22 is good for.

the CZ dang i know thats i nice gun but a lil pricey

rtn
September 1, 2009, 11:01 PM
The CZ is accurate out of the box and well worth the money to me. I don't thnk you'll be dissapointed. The Lux comes with excellent iron sights and will make for a good hunter/plinker. A scope can also be mounted on the rifle. I shoot mine with and without the scope, and always appreciate the results.

doc2rn
September 1, 2009, 11:30 PM
Marlin is the one to beat with the micro groove barrel. I also like the Ruger 77/22 series, but the gold standard is the 39A.

benzy2
September 2, 2009, 12:00 AM
It all depends on how much you want to spend. I think the overall quality makes the CZ 452 the best buy but you have to be able to spend that much money. If it just isn't in the budget it doesn't matter how great of a buy it is. I really like both Marlin and Savage bolt rifles. They all seem to shoot very well. Maybe not quite like the CZ but close. The real difference though is in the build quality. The CZ feels like it was built to shoot .22 hornet or .221, something on the smaller centerfire level. The Marlin and Savage models feel cheaper. The feel is the big difference but still I think it is worth it. If not either would be good. The Henry is a great budget lever rifle but again the 39a is probably a better buy long term if you can afford it but if not the henry will work just fine and dandy.

SeekHer
September 2, 2009, 06:36 AM
I have a box of just about every .22 LR ammo available here and I take them out to the range with my new rifle and start to shoot two, five shot groups at 25 yards with each box...I then compare which is the most accurate, smallest group, closest to POA and that''s what that gun will then shoot for the rest of it shooting days...

I run a brush through every 10th round just because and the time spend doing that also allows the barrel to cool down a little...

We (my six daughters, wife and I) each have at least two 10/22s and of them they prefer 10 or 12 different brands of ammo...So what works for one person's model, just might not be "perfect" for yours...

Check out at least 3 to 4 different boxes of the same velocity/weight...E.G. Don't compare a standard 40 gr to a 30 gr hyper velocity as they will, of course, perform differently!

gdesloge
September 2, 2009, 09:18 AM
My thanks also for the response about break-in. All these suggestions have me considering a .22 also.

g

ENCPirate
September 2, 2009, 11:11 AM
I have been torn between a Henry Goldenboy and a CZ 452 lux. And if I can eventually make up my mind :banghead: Ill go out and pick one up.

bpl
September 2, 2009, 11:38 AM
I vote for the CZ-452, if you can swing the extra money. I have a CZ-453 American and a CZ-452 Scout. They are both very accurate and are clearly rifles (fit and finishwise) than my Marlins or my Henry rifles. I find the CZs to be more accurate too.

rangerruck
September 2, 2009, 11:50 AM
preferred method for breaking in a 22.... yes there is. First off, allways clean your new/used rifle. a new rifle will be full of chattermarks, and metalworking crap. so clean all that out. then take about a bulk pac of whatever is hi speed, fmj or solid point, copper washed. then, let it all rip. The hi speed solid points will smooth out your semi auto action, and get rid of all the bumps and lumps inside the bbl. when you are done, clean the bbl very good, VERY GOOD, one time, making sure to get out all the copper, so get a copper specific cleaner, which will get out all the other crap as well.
You are now done, with a ready to knock em dead 22.

ghoster
September 2, 2009, 12:01 PM
i have a old bolt stevens---extreamly accurate---very long gun:)

ruger 10 shot semmi---fun moderately accurate--picky with ammo:o

ithica saddle rifle--lever --accurate--short--fun as h--- :evil:

proper breakin----shoot lots of ammo--often:neener:

Gryffydd
September 2, 2009, 12:07 PM
I'm really enjoying my Marlin 981T. It's a tube fed bolt action, so it feeds everything from CBs to Long Rifles equally well. It holds 25 Shorts or 17 LRs.
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/BoltAction22/981T.asp
For the price ($180) it's hard to beat.

BillyDa59
September 3, 2009, 01:01 AM
I love my Henry. Best thing my dad ever got me.

LAK
September 3, 2009, 06:19 AM
The Anschutz 1710 is very down to earth if you can afford one. Another good choice would be the CZ 452.

CZguy
September 3, 2009, 10:08 AM
Others have said they won't hold up to a lot of shooting though. I'm really not sure there

We've had one since 2003, and my wife shoots the heck out of it. No problem so far.

Having said that........there is no comparison to the quality of a Marlin 39a. The best thing Henry has going for it is their outstanding customer service.

Colton White
September 4, 2009, 01:51 AM
thanks everybody for all your suggestions!

i haven't quite made a decision yet but this has really narrowed my search. fyi i like the Winchester wildcat, Henry lever action, and the tube fed marlin.

we all love guns and our right to exercise our 2nd amendment rights i have scores of guns and yes many semi auto .22s like the ever popular Ruger 10/22 and the respectable Marlin model 60. i think like many of you i need a dandy little rifle that's great for teaching the young and ignorant how to shoot and above all will help me slow down, return to basics, SLOW DOWN, and enjoy every single shot.

What a High Road Indeed

Rick-F
September 4, 2009, 09:10 AM
Henrys may not last a 100 years-- but they are a hoot to shoot for plinking. Certainly not a serious target rifle-- but for cans and squirrels, they will get the job done.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/rhf-1/CIMG0004.jpg

ENCPirate
September 4, 2009, 12:29 PM
Thanks for the advice. If I got the Henry Goldenboy, I would be real tempted to have it engraved. If I did that I would want it to last a long time. I think Ill stick with the CZ I hear nothing but good things about them. Now hopefully they will have one in stock and I wont have to order it.

kamagong
September 4, 2009, 01:11 PM
CZ 452 ZKM, with the tangent sights! Best rifle I've ever owned. It's killed over 100 squirrel like a death ray, plus all manner of bunnies, grouse and even an enraged muskrat. Shoots 1" groups at fifty. Handles like a commercial Mauser, but at half the weight. Excellent balance.
Cosmo,
How is your CZ different from the 452 Trainer? My 2-yr-old Trainer has the tangent sights, and it's a dandy. I'm curious as to what difference there are between a CZ made ten years ago and the ones made today.

snead888
September 4, 2009, 04:19 PM
28 inch barrel and the golden trigger, and comes with the 10 round magazine. if he is talking about the ultra lux. although the model number on mine is cz 452-2e zkm

Colton White
September 5, 2009, 12:42 AM
Rick F is that a flip up peep sight on ur henry? is that a henry mod or aftermarket? thats cooler than ice id feel like quigley down under shooting that thing lol

kamagong
September 5, 2009, 07:10 AM
...although the model number on mine is cz 452-2e zkm
Mine too, which is why I'm confused.

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