Laser grip prices


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nachosgrande
September 1, 2009, 03:24 AM
Been interested in putting a laser grip on one of my handguns and just haven't yet been able to justify the price. This got me thinking, why is there such a heavy price?

Decent handgun grip = $20

Decent laser pointer = $10

Decent laser grip = $300????

Can anyone explain why this is?

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Probie9
September 1, 2009, 07:00 AM
That's why I don't have a laser.

LightningMan
September 1, 2009, 07:11 AM
IMO its becauce the Chinnese haven't made copies of them yet. remember when those holographic rail type sights were more expensive, and now you can get them cheap. LM

loop
September 1, 2009, 07:36 AM
Because CT holds many patents. They will begin to run out soon and then the imitations will pop up. When they do quality will go through the roof and the floor at the same time.

CT's adjustments suck. That will be the target to the innovators.

The copiers will try and improve on the laser or the mount.

You can build a better laser sight right now with a $3 laser, a cheap set of clunky grips and a Radio Shack pressure switch. You just can't sell them because of patent infringement laws.

frankiestoys
September 1, 2009, 07:40 AM
I dont know about grips being $20 or a laser pointer for $10 but your'e right about them being so expensive. I can't see spending $250+ for them , so i'll wait maybe some one will come out with a pair that is actually worth the money.

NoleMan
September 1, 2009, 07:58 AM
Very interesting loop. I hope what you're saying is the case. I've always wondered why they are so dadgum expensive. Then again, I don't really like lasers...gives the BG a perfect target (your head).

AKElroy
September 1, 2009, 08:55 AM
I have CT's on two guns, a S&W 340 and an LCP. They are extremely bright, and hold zero well. I find the adjustments just fine. As for the expense, the laser itself is the brightest a civilian can buy, and the ability to zero to target adds a great deal of complexity to the design. I am a big fan---

cchris
September 1, 2009, 11:34 AM
Looks like you've got a project on your hands - combine a tiny laser pointer on some grips and you've got yourself a "laser trace" - just don't sell any or market it as that - for ten times less.

rondog
September 1, 2009, 03:46 PM
I have a set of LG-404's for Officer's Size 1911's, bought 'em used from a feller for $155. The activation switch crapped out after a couple years, and CT completely rebuilt the grips for free. All new wiring, switch, laser diode, everything.

I've fired my pistol twice since the rebuild, and the laser jumped out of adjustment both times. I called yesterday about this. Turns out they had a bad batch of laser diodes with faulty springs, that would allow the lasers to jump out of adjustment, and my rebuilt set has one of those bad diodes in it.

So, I now have a brand-new set of grips coming to me in the mail, at no charge! And I'd bet they'll include several more new batteries like they did when they rebuilt the grips. Can't beat customer service like that.

jaydubya
September 1, 2009, 07:28 PM
I have Crimson Trace laser grips on three handguns. I would not buy a handgun that CT did not have a set of grips for -- that's how sold I am on them. I have also had excellent help from their customer support. This is a topnotch company, which makes a topnotch product.

For those who consider the price too high, I ask this: Do you also go cheap on ammo?

Cordially, Jack

Carne Frio
September 1, 2009, 07:49 PM
This laser grip is much less than $300:

http://www.opticsplanet.net/lasermax-laser-sights-for-j-frame-revolvers.html

Same company also makes other types for other handguns.

Geneseo1911
September 1, 2009, 09:36 PM
The laser CT uses is NOT the same as a toy you can buy at the dime store.
The brighter a laser gets, the more it costs. Not to mention that the toys do not maintain a tight beam as the distance increases.

Also, (and I'm not sure about this) I suspect a $10 laser will fall apart under the conditions present when strapped to a weapon of any significant caliber. It goes back to the old $25 scope verses $250 scope question. Are you looking for a toy or a serious training/SD tool? Not that there's anything wrong with a toy....I'd love to have a .22 plinker with a $25 laser to play around with, but I don't think CT is totally out of line for a serious product, especially if you can find them used on here.

ohioshooter
September 1, 2009, 09:54 PM
I just bought a Kimber Crimson Carry and I love it. It's the first gun that I've owned that has a laser on it. I love it but I don't rely on it. I practice with and without the laser on that way if the adrenaline is going and I forget to turn it on I won't feel like I'm to be the victim.

SpotlightRanger
September 2, 2009, 08:20 PM
The laser CT uses is NOT the same as a toy you can buy at the dime store.
The brighter a laser gets, the more it costs. Not to mention that the toys do not maintain a tight beam as the distance increases.

Not only that but the CT grips hold their POA unlike a cheap laser pointer or laser site as you see available on line. I carried one for more than a year in Iraq with quite a lot of jostling around while on patrol nearly every day. It still shot dead to point of aim on the last day of the deployment.

I don't sell them but I am sold on them, I can't really say enough good things about them. Laser grips are of limited usefullness in SD situations you might run into on the street but for HD and patrolling, they are worth every penny.

21bubba
September 2, 2009, 10:08 PM
Think they're too much money?

Don't like lasers?

Simple answer: Don't buy them.

EHL
September 2, 2009, 10:32 PM
Decent handgun grip = $20

Decent laser pointer = $10


I beg to differ. Like others have noted, the laser grip from CT uses much higher quality components for thier products. Try to make a comparable product that withstands the constant pressure and abuse these laser grips are subjected to being carried and used on a daily basis. I would be surprised such a frankenstein type laser, all scotch taped up, would survive more than one or two shots.:rolleyes:

Skillet
September 3, 2009, 12:19 AM
i would love a set of lasergrips for my cz 75b. but i want it to be a green DOT. not beam. the bad guy can jsut trace the beam back to you. a dot, is a little bit more difficult.

Mooseman
September 3, 2009, 09:21 PM
unless there's smoke or something in the air you shouldn't be able to see a beam.

Rodentman
September 3, 2009, 10:22 PM
Green laser is much more visible in clear air. Doesn't require smoke or fog to trace the beam....I stick with red.

gym
September 5, 2009, 03:28 PM
I always felt that good quality laser sights, were all too expensive. If they come down I would consider buying them for one of my hand guns. The problem is exponential. If I get used to them, I will want them for every gun I carry, and then become more reliant on the laser than my own judgement. It's just the way things work. If I don't have them I won't miss them. And that red dot or flashlight always made me wonder if it might be better to sit in the dark, and wait till you can actually see what you are shooting at, without giving away your position. If the enemy were walking to me with a flashlight, or a laser, I seem to feel that I would have a better target to shoot at than the other way around. I never fired a weapon with laser sights, only held a few, so I can't be sure if a laser would influence my natural point and shoot method. There must be research on this subject, I will google it and see.

cchris
September 8, 2009, 11:43 AM
This is perhaps what you might nit-pick as "off topic", but the situation is the same for the LaserMax. Even cheaper situation, but the price is through the roof.

If I knew where to buy a cheap small laser pointer, I could fit it into a custom guide rod.

Geneseo1911
September 8, 2009, 12:12 PM
I was just perusing a 1984 American Rifleman mag, and there was an ad for a laser sight. Is was the same size as the 1911 it was mounted on, and sold for $595. I think the current options are an improvement. If I can get my scanner working, I'll try to post a scan of it.

Shipwreck
September 8, 2009, 12:27 PM
I want a laser guiderod for my Beretta 92 - those things are even higher than the laser grips!

Duo
September 8, 2009, 11:40 PM
what's wrong with the sights

i don't trust electronics

dom1104
September 9, 2009, 09:56 AM
Notice how, everyone who is too poor to own a set hates them, and they are a 3 dollar laser etc, and everyone who owns one knows they are much more than a 3 dollar laser :)

And the chinese, arent "innovators".

The other thing is, the CT laser uses so little battery power its amazing. the cheap chinese knockoffs invariably go dead fast.

I love mine. I also wont own a gun without them. they are THAT good, and that fun.

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