Marlin 60SB - Brand New - HELP


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TheBill
September 1, 2009, 12:15 PM
I bought a Marlin 60SB on friday, and took it out to shoot Saturday morning (no, I didnt clean before shooting).

Anyhow, I bought a box of Remmington Golden Bullet Value Pack (525)

I got about 30 rounds through it before this happened:

http://i26.tinypic.com/25yukaa.jpg

I had to pull it out w/ pliers. I then put a little Hoppes oil in the action (still hadn't taken it apart yet).

It worked for about 11 rounds, then another, just like the above pic.

I know .22's jam, but I wanted some opinions on how to correct this, and if there is any other ammo that people suggest if it's the Remmingtons causing this?

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offthepaper
September 1, 2009, 12:55 PM
Looks like typical "stove pipe jam".
Since this is a new rifle, I would simply break the rifle down and clean and lube all the metal to metal contact points. The Marlin 60 isn't a tough rifle to strip and clean (I'm not sure how much experience you have in this field). afterwards reassemble take to the range, but also this time take some different ammo along with the Remington you now have. Try shooting both. If the Rem's stil;l jam, try the other ammo. My own Marlin 60's seem to like the cheap Federal bulk packs from Wally World. Post back after you try this and let us know the results. This should be an easily fixed problem.

**almost forgot, make sure to also clean the tubular magazine, but do NOT place any lube inside of the tube. It will only attract dirt. Just run a couple of patches soaked with mineral spirits and then some dry patches.

This may help with your disassembly:

http://www.castbullet.com/misc/m60.htm

chevyforlife21
September 1, 2009, 01:10 PM
its that ammo trust me alot of people will agree on here. try federal bulk pack at the same price my gun hasnt had more then 5 jams in the last 3000 rounds

JonB
September 1, 2009, 01:15 PM
Remington 22LR bulk pack is the worst stuff in my Marlin 60. Works OK if the action is clean, but since its pretty dirty stuff it doesn't take long to get stovepipe jams. Remington is some of the dirtiest ammo I have come across for my 22.

Clean the rifle good and get some Federal ammo and try again.

TheBill
September 1, 2009, 01:35 PM
Thanks for the info. Now if I can only find some .22's. I got lucky finding those Remmingtons. They're out everywhere right now

I did take it apart and clean it last night (I didnt clean the Mag Tube though). I hope that does the trick.

Any other suggestions?

offthepaper
September 1, 2009, 01:41 PM
What area are you in?

chevyforlife21
September 1, 2009, 01:50 PM
use breakfree clp oil cuse it repels the grity dirt that builds up in the action every 100 rounds and makes ur action work harder. i use to use hoppes and its a good oil but its to thick for the marlin cuse it makes fouling stick in the action. after a month or so ull find some i got the same problem here if i run outa ammo i have to wate weeks to find some. also how fast are you pulling the trigger? if you try to run it like a automatic it will hang up alot generaly, about half a second between each shot is that fastest u wanna go with the marlin and clean the internals every 500 rounds just be carefull about the recoil spring i used to take that out everytime and once i kinked it so it was useless then i had to order a new one for like 8 bucks and had to be real carefull putting it back in. so i lift out that assembly with all the little parts and blast that with brake cleaner and spray it on the bolt and spring while its still in the gun and dont take them out (same as gun scrubber) dont get it on plastic though it destroys it. the only plastic part in mine is the piece of plastic called a recoil buffer that the bolt slams into after every shot my marlin is 30 years old so urs might have more plastic in it.

TheBill
September 1, 2009, 02:17 PM
I'm in AZ

JonB
September 1, 2009, 02:23 PM
The Remington bulk stuff was OK for accuracy for me, but wouldn't be my first choice. So if it is all you can get your hands on right now, then have fun shooting it. Just know that you will have a few jams (even dud rounds). Not a huge deal if you are expecting it.

TheBill
September 1, 2009, 05:20 PM
You guys know of any sites online that have some .22lr ammo that is comparable to the Remington?

chevyforlife21
September 1, 2009, 05:22 PM
i wouldnt buy online its more expensive. if u have walmart go there or dicks is good too

TheBill
September 1, 2009, 06:04 PM
The Walmarts here haven't had 22 ammo in a lonnng time. All Dicks had was the Remington.

chevyforlife21
September 1, 2009, 06:05 PM
yea my walmart gets the ammo in for like 2 days then it sells out then they dont have it another month trick is u gotta check there alot man

hub
September 1, 2009, 10:32 PM
I have the same rifle. It shoots well but sometimes chokes on cheap bulkpack stuff or standard and sub velocity rounds when it's dirty. It does need a good initial cleaning and some time to get broken in well.

Runningman
September 1, 2009, 11:10 PM
I would try some 40 grain solid CCI Mini Mags as they are the gold standard for semi auto 22 for reliable function. This will eliminate ammunition problem if that is the case.

You may want to do a good cleaning of the action, bolt, chamber and barrel. Get a Otis pull thru to clean the barrel and chamber with bore solvent. Lighter fluid (outside of course) with a small nylon brush works good as a cleaner for the bolt.

rangerruck
September 2, 2009, 12:52 AM
for you first semi auto, or any semi auto, that is new, allways buy fmj/solid point copper wash, HI SPEED, 22 ammo, and send about 500 rounds through it, to break it in, and smooth it up.

However your biggest prob is remmy ammo, NEVER BUY REMMY 22 AMMO!!!!
It sucks more than the suckiest of sucksville. it is dirty, stinky, poorly crimped, loose, powder is uneven, there is nothing good about remmy ammo, unless it is mach 2 ammo, or orange box, or yellow box. Know why? Because those are all made for Remmy, by Eley, the finest 22 ammo maker in the world. they also make Aguila, and Golden Eagle, and Centurion. Well the last 3 they don't actually assemble, but it is their parts, and their primers, and their powders, and their cases that are used. and their powder mix, and primer mix, is a totally guarded secret.

anyway, NEVER BUY REMMY 22 AMMO!!!

and if you must buy bulk ammo boxes , limit it to winchester or federal, CCi bulk is marginal, so just
stick with winny or feddy.

Catfish25p2000
September 2, 2009, 01:18 AM
Yea yea, I say that!!!! ^^^^^^^^^

gidaeon
September 2, 2009, 08:38 AM
yup. The ammo is primarily to blame. Clean your 60, don't over oil. Try a variety of brands. I've never had my 60 jam on CCI stuff FWIW.

I like to break in a new 22 with cci stingers myself but in the case of the 60 - stick to hi and not hyper for the sake of the buffer.

rino451
September 2, 2009, 10:57 AM
Mine likes Rem Thunderbolt. I shoot mine dry other than some oil/grease down on the trigger/sear area. All the stuff you can see through the ejection ports stays dry.

rangerruck
September 2, 2009, 12:16 PM
oh yeah, only put 1 drop of very thin oil, around the sides of the bolt assy., sides, and top, no need for oil on the front and back of the bolt assy.

And did I say or happen to mention,
NEVER BUY REMINGTON 22 AMMO? because you shouldn't...

middy
September 2, 2009, 12:53 PM
Remington Target works just fine in my model 60.

chevyforlife21
September 2, 2009, 05:04 PM
haha rangerruck exactly

rangerruck
September 2, 2009, 11:43 PM
your remmy target... look at the box very closely,
then tell us who makes it (hint, it ain't remmy)
I think I allready mentioned, it it says remmy but is in a orange box , or yellow
box, it is by Eley. or it is the new black label green stripe, also made by eley.
http://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/remington-arms-eley-competition-22lr-target-rifle-ammunition-reviews

or like zeeze;
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/56143-5.html
see how eley is written all over them?

rangerruck
September 3, 2009, 12:27 AM
should have made the distinction; hi speed ammo is fine, all that you want.
DO NOT USE HYPER VELOCITY, it will actually say hyper , right on the box.
this ammo is actually .1 of an inch longer than 22lr, and has more powder.
and it will batter your bolt assy., back into your receiver area. not good.

tango2echo
September 3, 2009, 12:51 AM
The Marlin manual does say not to use Hyper velocity ammo, however, I have ignored this for many thousands of rounds without any harm to the weapon or buffer. Velocitors shoot great in my Model 60's.

The Remington ammo is garbage IMO. The Remingon target that I have purchased has always been made by Eley.

Switch to Mini-Mags and your problems will go away. I own 4 M60's and 5 M70PSS's, which all function flawlessly on this ammo (and shoot Stingers and Velocitors just fine).

t2e

MythBuster
September 3, 2009, 11:57 AM
The Marlin 60 is a poor design. They have never been known for reliability. Some are fine but many are not. The Remington ammo is some of the worst that you can find.

If you find a Model 60 that is reliable with this ammo it would be a miracle.

rino451
September 3, 2009, 12:29 PM
:scrutiny:

JonB
September 3, 2009, 12:51 PM
The Marlin 60 is a poor design. They have never been known for reliability. Some are fine but many are not. The Remington ammo is some of the worst that you can find.

If you find a Model 60 that is reliable with this ammo it would be a miracle.

HUH? Got anything to back that up with or just spouting nonsense?

The only part of that statement that is true is that Remington ammo is some of the worst you can find. The rest of the post is utter nonsense.

MIL-DOT
September 3, 2009, 08:42 PM
(QUOTE) "HUH? Got anything to back that up with or just spouting nonsense?
The only part of that statement that is true is that Remington ammo is some of the worst you can find. The rest of the post is utter nonsense."


What he said. :)

rangerruck
September 3, 2009, 11:41 PM
some 60's have come out , from the factory to be jammo matics, but it is rare, and is usually the fault of the 1st operator, using bad ammo, you know,

.....SUCH AS REMMY 22 AMMO!!! NEVER BUY REMMY 22 AMMO, EVER.

Have i said that allready? just get some hi speed , copper washed, fmj or solid points, about 500 of them, and let er rip.
As for hypers, a dude I know just bought a 795, and used hypers, and cracked
his buffer in the first 5 rounds. Don't use hypers, it will be on your head.

middy
September 4, 2009, 09:35 AM
The Marlin 60 is a poor design. They have never been known for reliability. Some are fine but many are not.

ROFL

Micro
September 6, 2009, 12:45 PM
My Model 60 SS digests anything I put in it. I shoot Remington Thunderbolt the most, since its cheap and readily available, albeit a bit dirty. I shoot Yellow Jackets a bit, too. Mainly for the explosive effects on soda cans. For a reliable plinker, the Model 60 is a timeless classic. It's more reliable than any of the 10/22s I've ever owned or shot.

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