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TheBill
September 1, 2009, 06:31 PM
Marlin 60SB I just bought. Obviously nothing too fancy. It came with a little cheapy one. But I know nothing about scopes and would like something decent for it.

Any suggestions would be appreciated

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257WM_CDL-SF
September 1, 2009, 07:10 PM
be sure to check out Sightrons I love mine best clearest scope I have ever owned

skoro
September 1, 2009, 07:51 PM
I have a couple of possibilities you might want to consider.

1. Bushnell Banner 4x32 - a decent reasonably priced scope that'll do well for plinking and small game hunting.

2. Weaver RV-7 - more expensive, but a heck of a nice rimfire scope, with 2-7x variable power.

These are available at lots of sporting goods stores or online at places like Midway.

Maverick223
September 1, 2009, 09:55 PM
I'll second the Bushnell fixed 4x...great scope...super cheap. :)

Runningman
September 1, 2009, 10:50 PM
You didn't pick a price range but one that works well for me on 22s is the Sightron S1 3-9 X 32 RF. You can get them for about $130.00 from Midway. Resolution is very good for its price range. Parallax is set up for 50 yards so they work well with 22 RF.

Put one on my Marlin Model 60 a 2 or 3 years ago after not having very good luck with a 3 x 9 Bushnell. I've since bought a few more of these for 22 RF to replace past mistakes in cheap scopes. Been very pleased with them.

hub
September 1, 2009, 11:50 PM
Like I just posted in your last thread I have the same rifle.
I put a cheap Bass Pro Redhead 4x on mine because I had a gift certificate and it was one of the only silver 4x they had.

It holds zero and does well enough for plinking around and squirrel hunting but if I could do it over again I would have went with a Nikon Prostaff Rimfire 4x. The Red Head's crosshairs are so thin you can barely see them and the light gathering and clairity is horrible compared to the Prostaff 3x9 on my .17hmr.

The easiest comparison I can think of is when looking through one then through the other it is like switching between regular and hd channels on a big screen tv.

You never did say how much you wanted or was willing to spend, or what you planed to do with it. That would help a lot. When I got mine I felt I needed to get one in silver to match the stainless but now with the matte prostaff on my stainless BTVS I think it looks pretty good as well.

There are obviously better scopes out there and a lot of other options to choose from and I've never owned a Nikon Rimfire but I do really like the prostaff 3-9x40 as a good budget scope and would recommend the Rimfire 4x as one too based on the others quality. They also come in matte or silver if that matters to you.
http://swfa.com/Nikon-ProStaff-Riflescopes-C151.aspx

Here is a pic of the Marlin 60SB with the Red Head in silver, and another of my BTVS with a Nikon prostaff 3-9x40 in matte just for a comparison.

rangerruck
September 2, 2009, 01:07 AM
best scope for under 100 bucks, ever, that's right... EVER, is right here.
http://www.opticsplanet.net/tasco-3-9x44-titan.html
sometimes these can be found in the big box stores, in the hard plastic pak, with glasses and ear muffs, for about 40 bucks!!!! stock up then.
Why are they so good? look at the features; adult rated, spring piston rated,
break bbl rated, air rifle rated. so it will never ever break or lose zero. comes with mounts allready. the best part is, the AO goes down to about 10 FT!!!!
awesome. plus it is smallish, so it doesn't overpower with size or weight.
now then , there is anothermodel just like this, but it is centerfire, and not air rifle rated, and does not have an AO, so don't get that one. All this,
for less than 50 bucks, it just cannot , and will not be beat.
now then, if you wanna target shoot, this is not your scope, you need more power, this scope will only do you decently for target shooting on paper, out to about 50 yds. if you wanna shoot the tiniest of holes/ groups on paper, at 50 yds, get an 18 power, if you wanna do it at 100, get at least a 24 x.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/opticsplanet_2009_401068623.gif

Maverick223
September 2, 2009, 04:20 AM
RR, what little experience with Tasco I had was not too great, but with that said I have never broken one, or had one loose zero (only on .22s though)...and for $40.00USD it's a good deal if it has glass at all. :D

TheBill
September 2, 2009, 11:14 AM
I dont want to spend more than 120 on it. Not looking to be that serious with it. Just target shooting with buddies, maybe some small game from time to time

rangerruck
September 2, 2009, 12:13 PM
if you get a rimfire scope, it will be prllax free at 50 yds, BUT NOT LESS!!!!
that is why the air rifle scopes are superior, if you need a 20 yd shot. the one in the pic above, like I said, goes down to about 10ft.

Maverick223
September 2, 2009, 01:02 PM
if you need a 20 yd shot. the one in the pic above, like I said, goes down to about 10ft.That is the focus...I don't believe that the parallax can be moved in any way. :)

TheBill
September 2, 2009, 03:01 PM
ok, here's the suggestions so far

Sightrons (don't know model suggested)
Bushnell Banner 4x32
Weaver RV-7
Nikon Prostaff Rimfire 4x
Tasco 3 9x44

Let's start the voting

Maverick223
September 2, 2009, 03:34 PM
Need a Poll! If you want it to be cheap then Bushnell (even the Sportview isn't all that bad...but the Banner is noticeably better) FTW...if you are willing to drop a little more cash than what you planned (about $140) a Nikon or Sightron I would be in order. :)

TheBill
September 2, 2009, 04:40 PM
OK, I dont know how to start a poll.

If I move my limit to 150, what model would you guys suggest?

Maverick223
September 2, 2009, 04:50 PM
If I move my limit to 150, what model would you guys suggest?Bushnell ProStaff 2-7x or a Sightron I 3-9x will give you the best rimfire optics on the block. :D

TheBill
September 2, 2009, 05:36 PM
Sounds good. I'll start shoppin them now. Thanks Maverick

FFMedic
September 2, 2009, 05:45 PM
I say Nikon 4X, get it at Wal-Mart and save on shipping.

FFMedic

chevyforlife21
September 2, 2009, 05:51 PM
get a bushnell banner

Walkalong
September 2, 2009, 06:17 PM
if you need a 20 yd shot. the one in the pic above, like I said, goes down to about 10ft.
That is the focus...I don't believe that the parallax can be moved in any way. It is the parralax that can be adjusted down to 10 ft. That is what adjustable objectives do, adjust the parralax for the distance being shot. ;)

Of course, some scopes have that adjustment on the side now, which is nice.

rangerruck
September 2, 2009, 07:20 PM
if 150 is the limit, then nikon or pentax or burris, is the only way to go. especially nikon or pentax, with the no questions asked unlimited lifetime wrrnty.
don't know what burris wrrty is like.

... and thanks walkalong, I was about to do a big ' what ?'....

rangerruck
September 2, 2009, 07:27 PM
... and that optics planet tag line is deceptive; it is not called a titan, nor is it a x44 mm. it is a golden antler, air rifle rated , with AO, and it is 3x9x32.
so be careful

Maverick223
September 2, 2009, 07:46 PM
Sounds good. I'll start shoppin them now. Thanks MaverickNP, like others have suggested you may be alright with a fixed 4x...but for 50yds+ I would go variable. :)

It is the parralax that can be adjusted down to 10 ft. That is what adjustable objectives do, adjust the parralax for the distance being shot.

Of course, some scopes have that adjustment on the side now, which is nice.Was just what I had heard (only for focus, not parallax)...thanks for the clarification. Side focus is great, but not worth the extra cash for a .22lr IMO.

hometheaterman
September 2, 2009, 08:34 PM
I have a Ruger 10/22 with a Simmons 3x9x32 scope and honestly I love it. I've had it for several years. I just can't fathom spending too much on a scope for a .22.

hub
September 3, 2009, 12:04 PM
I always kinda felt like my marlin was a great rifle for squirrel hunting, spinner and paper targets, and all around plinking at ranges closer to around 50 yds. A 4x scope is great for that. No messing around with the zoom or dialing the objective just line up the crosshairs and your on target. Not that you can't shoot longer distances you can but if your looking for little bitty groups @100 you may need some more zoom. I usually like a bolt action set up for that kind of shooting but the Marlin will shoot good too.

If you plan on shooting longer distances and need some more magnification I would still recommend a Nikon 3-9x40 Prostaff but that's out of the price range and does not have a AO and is parallaxed at 100yds. That's OK but when shooting close ranges you need to keep the magnification dialed down and most people just want to zoom it all the way up to 9x when target shooting even at close ranges that's when parallax really starts becoming a problem.

Another scope I would recommend through personal experience is the Federal Intensity optics 3.8-12x44mm with the adjustable objective. My step dad had one on his CZ 452 American and another on a CZ 452 Lux. It is a nice and clear scope and seem to be pretty good quality. It has more usable magnification at close ranges and the 44mm objective will obviously bring in more light than a 32mm as well. A lot of the people over at rimfire central really seem to like them too with some good reviews.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258853&highlight=Intesity+Optics

Here's a link to sportsmans guide, hey it's on sale now too! $99.97 You can also get another $5 off coupon for any purchase over $50 if you sign up for the 25,000 sweepstakes. I entered today and got one through email. You may still be able to find it cheaper at Natchez.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/federal-intensity-44-mm-rifle-scopes-.aspx?a=540524

TheBill
September 3, 2009, 02:09 PM
Well now I'm just confused. Not a loong distance target shooter here. Just looking for a scope that I can mount to take to the range and mess around w/. Some of these look like serious scopes (seem to be fitted for more than just a plinking .22).

With that being said. Do I want a 4x or an adjustable???

Maverick223
September 3, 2009, 02:53 PM
Do I want a 4x or an adjustable?How should I know what you want? :neener: I would use a fixed 4x for plinking at 25yds. or so, but a low power variable (2-7x or 3-9x) would help at greater distances. For shooting at distances greater than 50yds. you will need the extra magnification. :)

tango2echo
September 3, 2009, 06:19 PM
The WW nearest me recently had Nikon 2-7x32 prostaff scopes for $109. I picked up a couple for a 10/22 and a Model 60 and have been very pleased.


t2e

Maverick223
September 3, 2009, 06:38 PM
^That's your scope...If I can find one I may have to pick one up for my 10/22. Thanks for the heads up t2e. :)

hub
September 3, 2009, 07:12 PM
With that being said. Do I want a 4x or an adjustable???

That's up to you. We are just throwing out suggestions. Obviously I went with a 4x. That don't make it the right choice, or the best option, or the best option for you, it was the best option for me and what I needed out of it. Like I said before I just wish now I would have spent a little bit more for a better quality scope.

I think that a fixed power usually is a better quality scope for the same money as one that's variable with AO and all the bells and whistles and is just a little smaller, lighter, with less variables to worry about having to adjust or to get out of adjustment while hunting or just plinking around. Like trying to shoulder up for a quick shot only to realize it's still on 9x from the last shot and you can't find the target until you zoom back out. Another would be needing to adjust the AO back and forth to stay parallax free with high magnification at all different ranges. Not that it's that big of a deal, it only takes a second but it's just that sometimes I just forget too and fixed power is a little bit easier to deal with. Just point and shoot.

For me 4x has enough power to get out to 100 yds if I need too and still be accurate enough. I don't have much problem hitting soda cans, bottles, etc at 100 yds with a good rest. Just for an example, can you hit a target constantly at 25 yards with open sites? Looking through a 4x scope @100 yds the target would look the same size. Not very good if your trying to shoot sub moa groups but OK if your trying to hit something bigger like a coke can.

Now imagine a 10x scope. That same target @ 100yds would now look the same as 10 yds away with open sights. Well that's great but every movement you make will also be magnified ten times. That's fine if your shooting off a rest but free hand your crosshairs seem to dance all over the place.

I'm not trying to sell you on a fixed 4 power that's just why I decided to go that route for this rifle. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a good 3-9 on a .22 I just didn't need it for my purposes. To me it's not a super accurate bolt action target rifle for shooting sub moa groups, it's a fun and accurate semi auto that I put 15 rounds of cheap ammo in the tube to burn up on anything and everything I want too hit under 100yds. It does however shoot some pretty good groups @50 with cheap ammo too. 15 rounds usually equals one big hole in the target.

hub
September 3, 2009, 07:30 PM
I havent seen the Nikon 2-7 that cheap but that would be a great scope.
For that price I would buy that scope in a heartbeat if I was shopping. I didn't think you could get a Nikon varible for $109 that's one of the reasons I recommended the rimfire version.

I belive the 2-7 is a shotgun scope parallaxed at 75yds. With that you could use more magnification at longer ranges and see a little better out to 100. I'm with tango and maverick on this one thats a good deal.

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