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lilguy
September 3, 2009, 12:46 PM
I am excited about the Kel-Tec RFB. They are in the preliminary stages of ramping up production (?). Does anyone else produce such a weapon. I have several 223 AR variants and would like to add a 308 bullpup to my stable before a new ASB shows up. Thanks.

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Maverick223
September 3, 2009, 01:04 PM
Does anyone else produce such a weapon.Absolutely...but it is in a bolt action...not an autoloader like the RFB. The Desert Tactical Arms - Stealth Recon Scout (henceforth referred to as the SRS) is available in .243Win., .308Win., .300Win. Mag. (what I own), and .338 Lapua Mag. Others that I know of are a SVD bullpup (definitely available in 7.62x54R...and I believe also in .308), and the DSR-1 (available in .308Win., .300Win. Mag., and .338 Lapua Mag.). There is also a KVar kit that you can use to convert a 7.62 Saiga. :)

Maverick223
September 3, 2009, 01:07 PM
FWIW I will likely be getting a RFB pending a couple reviews and the price dropping by a few hundred. I am yet undecided as to which bbl length would be more appropriate, the noise/blast from the 18" will be harsh, and the 32" will be long, heavy, and basically defeat the purpose of the BP design. :)

PandaBearBG
September 3, 2009, 06:16 PM
The RFB is semi-auto maybe running around $1500 and the SRS is bolt action maybe running around $3600 roughly. So price is a big thing, A BIG thing, you could probably get 2 RFB's for the SRS. Of course it depends if you want semi-auto or bolt action. SRS is already a proven accurate rifle and of course the ability to change calibers and barrels in a flash. However still no real definitive input on RFB's performance.

Maverick223
September 3, 2009, 07:34 PM
My SRS cost about $4500.00 with the magazines (that have yet to arrive :banghead:), the scope rings, and .300WM kit...IIRC the .308Win. was about $200.00 less. So yes the SRS is quite a bit more costly, but the OP did not inquire about cost or availability. :)

GunTech
September 3, 2009, 07:39 PM
The only other 308 bullpup I can think of offhand is the Israeli M89SR based on the M-14

http://www.geocities.com/mazanga9/IDF/IDFSnipingShashootingPhoto2/Sniper2.jpeg

PandaBearBG
September 3, 2009, 07:49 PM
Saw your post about the SRS Maverick223, I gotta give the sexy-gun-porn advantage to the SRS! You are a lucky man, good investment!

gunnie
September 3, 2009, 08:08 PM
http://tripatlas.com/Bullpup

many links to bullpup offerings at above, bottom of page. some 12ga, many 5.56, even one 300WM/308 bolt sniper version from walther, and a 22lr also.

a lot of'em i haven't heard of, check'em out.

gunnie

Maverick223
September 3, 2009, 08:42 PM
I gotta give the sexy-gun-porn advantage to the SRS!LOL, Thanks...for your viewing pleasure. :D
http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/Maverick223_album/IMG_4447.jpg
http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu141/Maverick223_album/M17.jpg
Note: the second photo is .223/5.56 not .308...but still a blast to shoot. :)

Maverick223
September 3, 2009, 08:46 PM
Oh, forgot this kit for the M-14 (http://www.shortrifles.com/)...I am currently deciding whether I will go this route or a Sage EBR...but I like bullpups. :)

PandaBearBG
September 3, 2009, 10:45 PM
Don't they make a bullpup kit for the 10/22? and I think there is one for the Saiga 12!
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/index.jpg

Maverick223
September 3, 2009, 10:55 PM
There are a couple kits for the 10/22, none that I know of for the S-12...but the AK kit can be modified for the 12Ga. The kvar kit (pictured above) feels sloppy and weak as is the Muzzlelite 10/22 kit IMO. I contemplated an aluminum 10/22 kit but it was a little too costly and a lot too ugly. :)

Girodin
September 4, 2009, 12:00 AM
There are a couple kits for the 10/22, none for the S-12...

http://www.kushnapup.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-1J5o0taeY

And another kit:

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=41804

I have also seen saiga 308s made into bullpups.

I used to be excited about the RFB, there was a time when I was ready to hand the money over but I have lost a lot interest. Not being able to buy one limits the appeal. The fact that I haven't seen one owner willing to post a target of their groups also makes me wonder.

The target version would interest me if it could really produce the groups I have heard claimed. The target version is also years away from production based on some things I have heard. The 18" carbine still is not even being produced in any significant quantities

Maverick223
September 4, 2009, 12:36 AM
Was not aware of the Kushnapup, but the "Kobra-pup" is a one-off custom. The Kushnapup appears to be well made, I would like to see a review of it. :)

Girodin
September 4, 2009, 03:34 AM
It is my understanding that Cobra's intention is to market a kit at the same price point as the other one. You are correct that it is not currently available though.

lilguy
September 4, 2009, 11:23 PM
An RFB is on gun broker for 2G's. SRP at Reds in Idaho is 1295.00 NIS.

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